Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LXV

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From what Andersson himself has said it sounds like he was frustrated to not make the Rangers, maybe upset and not feeling like he was given a fair shot, and that he has a history of emotional outbursts and "spirals of doom" where he gets into self destructive behavior when feeling frustrated/down on things (in this case staying up late, not taking care of himself, performing poorly on the ice because of it, causing more doom spiral, etc) until he couldn't take it and went back to where he was comfortable and had family support etc.

Who's to blame? Dunno. Maybe the Rangers didn't give him enough of a chance, or maybe they were disappointed in his ability to play at NHL pace as has been hinted at. Maybe they didn't treat him well enough and support him or maybe he had unrealistic expectations and some personal issues to work out with how he handled it.
If there's more to it than that...then it's tough, you want to support your players but also not play favorites.
Ultimately, pretty weird.



I mean, Howden for shoving him into the NHL early but Hajek was playing in the CHL and went to the AHL and has played there for more than he has played in the NHL.



Eh, he rushed himself, and there's the complication of no transfer agreement between the NHL and KHL. When his contract expired in Russia he wanted to sign with the Rangers. It seems he got so hyped up thinking he was gonna make it that when he didn't it was rough on him, but he has regrouped well enough

That's a good honest answer from Gorts, and it's appreciated. I think for some kids, and you see this with generational shifts in the workforce.... like you would with any other job.... the kid's value systems are different. What they prioritize is different.

It's one of the reasons why I thought Quinn was a very progressive hire. A type of coach who can be a good father figure to these Gen Z stars. You have to understand something: This is the generation that has their own highlight reel, entourage, and groupies depending on their situation... sometimes that's at age 16... sometimes that's at 22. I remember a story about a college recruiting my associate's kid back in 97. The college that sent the VHS montage of his son got the acceptance letter. Only one college sent a highlight reel.

These days, some of these guys are cutting their own reels on the way to practice. The "feeling" that my associate's kid experienced for him was a once in a lifetime experience, because it literally was. He wasn't good enough. But said cyclicality of that "feeling" as well as the de-materialization of said "feeling's" importance is what you are getting with Gen Z athletes. Their value systems are different because their reward mechanisms are different, and what happens when you give a hot shot 16-17 year-old control over their own reward mechanisms that can drive their own sense of fame through something as simple as their phones?

Do you have to be an NHLer to be a baller? What does $200K in purchasing power get a teenager? What was he pre-conditioned to?

Starting to make sense?
 
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I'm really curious to see what Tampa ends up doing. They're out of touch if they think they're getting value back for their overpaid depth.

People saying Sergachev is over rated.. haven't been paying attention. There's a deal to be made here if Gorts and JD choose to

Cirelli, still only 23, can be locked up long term at a modest price ( through his prime ). High $4M- Low $5M. He'd be our #1 Matchup guy, #1 PK guy, great at ES and would easily put up 60pts a year playing with our wingers. If that's over rated, I do not know what to tell you. Not everyone will be Jack Eichel. Cirelli is the exact player we need
 
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Really sucks we haven’t been able to bolster our center position. Lias would’ve been such a help even if he only ended up being a middle 6 at best, despite being #7OA.

No trade, Strome knows we don’t want him long term. What do we do? The frustrating part is even when it comes to prospects we’re weak at C. At least when it comes to LHD we have a couple interesting pieces, including Miller. But who’s the next man up at C?
 
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So, is it safe to say:
Henrik to WSH
Fast to PHI
ADA, Strome, AG, Lemieux to be re-signed and then shopped, more or less.

And probably a vet D and a vet F (and a vet G of AG is trades) to round out things.
 
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LA but the same applies to Kravstov IMO
It seems like the Rangers weren’t decisive enough. They let the players dictate their path too much. The Rangers should probably have pulled the emergency brake on these two coming over to NA so soon.

That said, it’s not a crime. And while Lias melted-down I think VK learned and grew from the experience.

Like most things in life, it’s how you move forward that’s the key.

(Saying that in the broadest sense. I have no idea what happened to both these guys specifically).
 
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It seems like the Rangers weren’t decisive enough. They let the players dictate their path too much. The Rangers should probably have pulled the emergency brake on these two coming over to NA so soon.

That said, it’s not a crime and while Lias melted-down I think VK learned and grew from the experience.

Like most things in life, it’s how you move forward that’s the key.

(Saying that in the broadest sense. I have no idea what happened to both these guys specifically).
BINGO!!! I want every single pick after Lafreniere we've made now to marinate. Even Schneider even if people feel he could be ready next year. I think we have enough elite talent up front and in net that we can afford to be patient with the likes of Miller, Kravtsov, Schneider, Nils and all of the lesser guys. Even if covid has made it a bit more challenging in making it harder to keep all these kids playing. Keep the pipeline full. We are gonna need it in the future against the likes of Carolina and Colorado.
 
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So, is it safe to say:
Henrik to WSH
Fast to PHI
ADA, Strome, AG, Lemieux to be re-signed and then shopped, more or less.

And probably a vet D and a vet F (and a vet G of AG is trades) to round out things.
Why AG and especially Lemieux shopped?
 
Why AG and especially Lemieux shopped?
I did say ‘more or less’ for brevity’s sake, but i should have been clearer.
I think AG is very available though I wouldn’t expect Lemieux to go anywhere. It seems to me he will be our Fast. A well-liked bottom sixer who’ll stay until UFA but probably no longer. Which is fine. Those guys are important.

@Cawlidge Hawkey jfyi
 
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It seems like the Rangers weren’t decisive enough. They let the players dictate their path too much. The Rangers should probably have pulled the emergency brake on these two coming over to NA so soon.

That said, it’s not a crime and while Lias melted-down I think VK learned and grew from the experience.

Like most things in life, it’s how you move forward that’s the key.

(Saying that in the broadest sense. I have no idea what happened to both these guys specifically).

I don't agree with the number of years Kovalev is suggesting, but I don't have any issues with VK spending more time in the KHL. He's maturing on someone else's dime. He can come over when he's ready. Russian Mike Hoffman might break 40.
 
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I don't think it is, though.

Maybe Hajek could improve.

Howden is what he is, which is Tanner Glass.
I was just kidding, anyhow. We all should have our own hyperbole detectors in our skulls.

That said, Howden, to me, is definitely not Tanner Glass. But it’s good to know the range of evaluations.
 
I don't think it is, though.

Maybe Hajek could improve.

Howden is what he is, which is Tanner Glass.

Eh I mean Howden is still young but he really needs to show some substantial improvement as he's starting his 3rd NHL season whenever that may be

I don't think it's crazy that he could improve, he has tools, but he's gotta start showing something
 
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