I’ve hit on this notion before. The sum of all the pieces being imperfect despite loving the pieces individually, and the need to then do some soul searching and make the tough decisions to get the sum total to where it needs to be. It’s easy to simply want to pencil everyone in. They see Panarin, Lafreniere, Kreider, Lemieux and Kakko, Kravstov, Buchnevich, Gauthier and say boom, there’s your 8 NHL wingers. But is it the right mix? Is there enough of this or too much of that? Does it all mesh? And does it do so in practice, rather than just in theory? Same with defense; we’re gonna have our pairs set with Trouba/Fox/Lundkvist and Miller/Lindgren/Robertson one day, we just need stop gaps because our system is loaded. Again, looks good on paper, but it virtually never actually plays out that way. Decisions will have to be made going forward to craft this roster into something greater than the sum of its parts. Not everyone who is here will stay here, regardless of how good or valuable they may be as an asset or player. This is where the tough choices get made to create the winner. As you said, the elite talent has been acquired. Now the team needs shape.
Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LXV
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I’ve hit on this notion before. The sum of all the pieces being imperfect despite loving the pieces individually, and the need to then do some soul searching and make the tough decisions to get the sum total to where it needs to be. It’s easy to simply want to pencil everyone in. They see Panarin, Lafreniere, Kreider, Lemieux and Kakko, Kravstov, Buchnevich, Gauthier and say boom, there’s your 8 NHL wingers. But is it the right mix? Is there enough of this or too much of that? Does it all mesh? And does it do so in practice, rather than just in theory? Same with defense; we’re gonna have our pairs set with Trouba/Fox/Lundkvist and Miller/Lindgren/Robertson one day, we just need stop gaps because our system is loaded. Again, looks good on paper, but it virtually never actually plays out that way. Decisions will have to be made going forward to craft this roster into something greater than the sum of its parts. Not everyone who is here will stay here, regardless of how good or valuable they may be as an asset or player. This is where the tough choices get made to create the winner. As you said, the elite talent has been acquired. Now the team needs shape.
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I cant see how he's not. Tampa is going to eventually learn they're in a rough spot
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Chalfdiggity3
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so i missed the past 20 pages or so.. Whats the deal now with the probability of trading Tony D and Strome for LD and a #2 center
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My post-five-guys Lando report...
Strome market wasn't what was expected so seems he will likely be back unless something major changes.
The ADA trade will wait until bidders have finalized who gets Pietrangelo in free agency.
Chalfdiggity3
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Thanks @Fitzy
I hope the return is very good for ADA. I like him alot but honestly we cant give a 3rd pairing dman over 5m aav
eco's bones
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The problem with moving Strome is his new team will have to be willing to qualify him and then risk him walking away if he only signs for a year. So you'll have to be willing to commit $5 million or so to that project and a lot of teams are more interested in divesting themselves of their cap than they would be of giving Ryan that kind of money. It might come down to whether the Rangers really are ready to give him a contract for $5 mil or so a year because nobody else might be willing to do that. The other option if a trade partner can't be found is to cut him loose.
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A f***ing shame ADA is gonna be gone ... better get a first back with high end C-prospect.
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I’m not convinced he’s gone. I think JG won’t budge from his price. And I hope the team is willing to experiment a bit this year. Still no rush. I expect them to walk and chew gum a bit, I know they want to be competitive, but I hope they’re open-minded and try some different things as well.
Anytime man, draft day(s) is my favorite day(s) of the year, well worth the stress it brings to keep track of everything and answer questions
Are there unicorns and leprechauns in that world of make believe you are living in? Honestly, I would be thrilled if they traded him for Calgary's first next year and Bennett. However, I doubt Calgary would do that. Looks like they might be going into tanking mode if they trade JG and that first rounder could be very high. No doubt they try to trade him to out west. You might get a high end center prospect but you aren't getting a first with him. Preds need him in the worst way. I've been on going after Glass big time. I know the Rangers loved Krebs before they moved up in the lottery. I would gladly trade TDA and Chytil for Glass and a pick. Glass to me has a chance to be a legit, number 1 center. Put him with Panarin all season and the kid is going to break out immediately. I'm not sure if Vegas will give him up. I have no issue trading TDA for Krebs and a pick either and you can bet they aren't giving you a first with Krebs.
Point being, I've said for months that the Rangers aren't going with 3, 5'11 righty defenseman on this roster. You don't win in the playoffs with that. You win with Schneider's. Plus, as I've also said I think it's pretty obvious that the organization loves Lundkvist.
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Looks like it. I have a hard time seeing what Vegas can give up for Tony besides a Glass or Krebs......we could take Stasney if they take Smith?
Would they give up McNabb on LD but is he top 4?
I know other teams will bid but Vegas seems to go all out
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Yes I k ew there would be a chance to comment on him!
I agree with all this though. Attitude issues aside his decision making, speed, etc was not nhl capable at least when I've watched him.
If he can find a team where he can get big pp mins I can see him playing tho. But on our team tho he's nowhere near good enough... I mean if you think about it .
Zibanejad
Panarin
Kreider
DeAngelo (until he's traded)
Those 4 aren't leaving pp unit 1.
That means one of lafreniere kakko buch fox and trouba...all monster pp weapons, will be lucky enough to play in pp 1. The other 4 go to pp 2. If stromes back he's your final guy.
We throw around the phrase embarrassment of riches a lot....but man...tell me it doesn't apply here.
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back afta dis. . .
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only have to give him one year though. With a flat cap for 3 years this market for those below upper class might be scary. Is anybody happier than Kreider? We will see
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Can’t be that common that a player represent himself as Duclair have chosen to do?
Duclair of Senators among players not receiving qualifying offers
Duclair of Senators among players not receiving qualifying offers
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