Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LXII

[Tawnos]

I don't think Stastny has negative value and he can be moved. I can actually see him coming here. We line up with needs and obviously they have been sniffing around Deangelo. I could see Stastny and Krebs/Glass with Deangelo being the main piece going back. McNabb maybe but the deal gets too complicated at that point. I guess the irony is they are clearing cap for a Pietro deal, do they want ADA as well in that case?

I mostly went buyout because there aren’t a lot of teams who will take on salary this offseason.

 

[egelband]

Is Rask a goner because of the fall out during the bubble? or Cap reasons?
Halak is solid but no way are they good enough to win in the East without Rask and that is a win now team. Maybe they sign Hank lol

Even if so, we won’t hear that from the Bostons. They’d be very liable.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Even if so, we won’t hear that from the Bostons. They’d be very liable.

Liable? They aren't terminating his contract, they're trading him. That's not an issue even if it is because of what happened over the summer

 

[mas0764]

I don’t know that Laine fits long term unless someone like Kreider is moved sooner rather than later, but the one reason to swing that trade would be if you can get him at a firesale price, you can play him next to Zibanejad for a season, let him score 40 goals, and then flip him for a center.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Duhatschek notebook: A look at the defenceman market, Jack Eichel's best fit

Subheader :
Eichel to Rangers just makes sense


Its only a formality at this point boys Eichel is gonna be wearing Rangers blue.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

 

[UnSandvich]

Duhatschek notebook: A look at the defenceman market, Jack Eichel's best fit

Subheader :
Eichel to Rangers just makes sense


Its only a formality at this point boys Eichel is gonna be wearing Rangers blue.

He also said the Rangers would need to give up Laf+, which I gotta hope is a non-starter

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Duhatschek notebook: A look at the defenceman market, Jack Eichel's best fit

Subheader :
Eichel to Rangers just makes sense


Its only a formality at this point boys Eichel is gonna be wearing Rangers blue.

This is starting to sound an awful lot like the never-ending "Doan to NYR" saga

 

[Harbour Dog]

He also said the Rangers would need to give up Laf+, which I gotta hope is a non-starter

I don't see Buffalo doing it for much less.

The board's been kidding itself with all of the offers posted which are 22OA, Deangelo, Buchnevich, etc... we'd have to give up a package that hurts to get Eichel. And I'm not interested in that at all.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

 

[NYRangers16]

I don't see Buffalo doing it for much less.

The board's been kidding itself with all of the offers posted which are 22OA, Deangelo, Buchnevich, etc... we'd have to give up a package that hurts to get Eichel. And I'm not interested in that at all.

Not on the Eichel bandwagon, but this is just not true. Nobody gives up a #1 overall for a guy making 10m in a capped world. It’ll hurt, but it won’t cost Laf. Laf isn’t going anywhere for a long time.

 

[egelband]

Liable? They aren't terminating his contract, they're trading him. That's not an issue even if it is because of what happened over the summer

If they do anything considered retaliation it will be an issue. Maybe they won’t be legally liable - if only because their anti-trust exemption gives them protection - but there would be noise.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Duhatschek notebook: A look at the defenceman market, Jack Eichel's best fit

Subheader :
Eichel to Rangers just makes sense


Its only a formality at this point boys Eichel is gonna be wearing Rangers blue.

Maybe, but it won't happen this off season.

 

[Leetch3]

so the start of free agency is when you can start giving extensions to players with 1 year left on their deals...Chytil is entering the final year on his ELC thanks to us waiting to call him up as a rookie so the contract would slide...

based on the assumption that he will play with better wingers this year (either as the 2C or 3C) due to adding lafreniere and kakko improving...does anyone else think that we might be wise to try to get Chytil locked up long term before the season starts and assume that his value will only go up this year? something like 3-3.5AAV for 6-8 years (8 years would take him to 30)? would that make sense for him?

it would be a gamble on both sides...for us if he remains a 30 point player its a bad deal, but if he develops as we hope it becomes a terrible value contract for a long time...and on his side its a gamble that he could be leaving $$ on the table down the road but the trade off being that its guaranteed money in the event he gets hurt or whatever...

Thoughts?

in similar fashion I'd also be looking to talk extension with Buchnevich as he entered his final year...if i'm JG, I'd like to know sooner than later what it would cost to extend him so I can figure out if it works in our budget...he might get used in a trade either way but whether or not keeping him is an option would greatly impact how I view potential trade offers.

 

[egelband]

Maybe, but it won't happen this off season.

I think Eichel-to-the-Rangers would be more of a Zibanejad replacement than, say, a Strome replacement. I just don’t see how they could afford Panarin and Eichel and Trouba and a re-signed Zibanejad on top of Kreider. Seems too top heavy. Just my sense.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Maybe, but it won't happen this off season.

Yeah, one more shit year in Buffalo and Eichel will publicly demand a trade, which will in turn drive the price down for us.

 

[gravey9]

If Eichel is discouraged and forces his way out of BUFF, I am not helping them by giving them Laf + as the article states. The premium will be high no matter what to get Eichel, but I"m not helping the Sabres out here by giving them Laf for 3 years on his ELC while we end up in a cap crunch with Eichel.

 

[Leetch3]

I think Eichel-to-the-Rangers would be more of a Zibanejad replacement than, say, a Strome replacement. I just don’t see how they could afford Panarin and Eichel and Trouba and a re-signed Zibanejad on top of Kreider. Seems too top heavy. Just my sense.

I think he would definitely be a mika replacement...I LOVE mika but there are definitely risk/concerns with giving a (then) 29 year old an 8 year deal at probably $10+ mil AAV. Barkov or Eichel would give you younger 1Cs closer to the age of lafreniere and kakko to roll with (eichel has 6 more years left on his deal).

that said though, if i'm making that trade, which for the record I'm against because the price will be too high, I'm making it now so I can having Zibanejad AND Eichel for 2 seasons before you have to deal with a potential mika extension.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

If Eichel is discouraged and forces his way out of BUFF, I am not helping them by giving them Laf + as the article states. The premium will be high no matter what to get Eichel, but I"m not helping the Sabres out here by giving them Laf for 3 years on his ELC while we end up in a cap crunch with Eichel.

Neither would Gorton.

 

[egelband]

I think he would definitely be a mika replacement...I LOVE mika but there are definitely risk/concerns with giving a (then) 29 year old an 8 year deal at probably $10+ mil AAV. Barkov or Eichel would give you younger 1Cs closer to the age of lafreniere and kakko to roll with (eichel has 6 more years left on his deal).

that said though, if i'm making that trade, which for the record I'm against because the price will be too high, I'm making it now so I can having Zibanejad AND Eichel for 2 seasons before you have to deal with a potential mika extension.

Was thinking that too... it would be tempting to have both those guys for two runs. But I think it’s a bit far-fetched in a lot of ways, as you say.

I do sense management is willing to take some calculated risks - I think there’s a surprising move coming - but this seems too much. I could see them “overpaying” for a guy they see with untapped upside. But I think whatever they do it will be pre-paid, so to speak. Something they can cash out of, even at a loss, pretty quickly.

 

[Lion Hound]

I think he would definitely be a mika replacement...I LOVE mika but there are definitely risk/concerns with giving a (then) 29 year old an 8 year deal at probably $10+ mil AAV. Barkov or Eichel would give you younger 1Cs closer to the age of lafreniere and kakko to roll with (eichel has 6 more years left on his deal).

that said though, if i'm making that trade, which for the record I'm against because the price will be too high, I'm making it now so I can having Zibanejad AND Eichel for 2 seasons before you have to deal with a potential mika extension.

Though McDavid was the Mika replacement?

 

[bl02]

Well I guess Montreal will be looking at Buch if they don't wanna spend big for Laine

 

[egelband]

Well I guess Montreal will be looking at Buch if they don't wanna spend big for Laine

Montreal quietly may be a big player this off-season. They are relatively strong financially (as far as I know) and don’t have a bad cap situation. I’m not convinced they’re really a contender but they might see this as a chance to make a splash. Didn’t they mention their first is in play? Maybe they see Buch as a long-term piece. Wouldn’t mind getting their first. I know this isn’t expressly what JG is looking to do but maybe a step back to take two steps forward elsewhere. Again, just spitballing.

 

[RickChartraw]

Alex Kovalev

Most talented player I've seen in our uniform. If he did what he did to Darcy Tucker in Ranger Blue...omg.