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True, but when was the last time a player of Eichel's caliber was traded so young, and locked up long term?
Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LXII
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True, but when was the last time a player of Eichel's caliber was traded so young, and locked up long term?
saying you'd give him up for Eichel isn't shitting on kakko even a tiny bit. eichel is an ELITE 1C and is only 23. in the absolutely best case scenario that any of us can dream of kakko becomes the player jack is. there are reasons, starting with contracts/cap hit, that the deal doesn't make sense but lets not act like anyone is selling kakko short in a deal for a guy like eichel
good luck to them finding teams that can fit a $10 mil contract and beat the offer...
remember you aren't going to come up with an offer that makes them want to deal eichel. if they don't want to move him he isn't getting moved. the trade (which imo won't happen) ony happens if he demands a trade and their hand is forced in which case you don't to offer equal value just more value than other teams.
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The only way we ever bother with Eichel is if he really wants out and forces Buffalo's hand. It's just not worth it otherwise. I'd much rather show some patience and see the Kids grow up together. If we're missing a Messier in 2 seasons, we'll find it then. And we'll know which kids to move vs which ones are the core. I hope we can chill. I just want to watch this team grow up together. Become a team. Last year was a great start.
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I think especially if you add Georgie and #22 or a B+ prospect and no one is coming close to touching that.
36-42-78 in 68 games 5th in points among centers....94 point pace on the worst team in the nhl is pretty impressive in my books. so not sure where you draw the line for 'elite' but not seeing how he isn't one of the best centers in the league. he's not the top guy but I'd definitely put him in the top tier
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an offensive defenseman with so/so defense and Center which might develop for Eichel? How creative does a team like Colorado or LA have to be to Trump that mediocre offer?
I haven’t put any stock in any Eichel rumors but The Hat is usually pretty well connected.
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I'm sure it makes a ton of sense. It's still not happening until next off-season at the earliest.
I’d argue his play on the other side of the puck needs improving. He has one season of that production. I would like to see him do that more to compensate some of those defensive shortcomings to consider him elite. And/or to improve his defensive play. Again I said he isnt elite yet*.
Regardless, no one is beating any package the Rangers put together without including Kakko or 1OA
Very for Colorado. What are they giving up off their roster? MacK, Rantanen, Makar and Landeskog are going no where.
LA could do it if Buffalo wants futures. Their young, on roster talent is kind of butt.
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Duhatschek also hedges by saying “within the next 12 months”.
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the cost for Eichel is not ADA and Chytil. To think Buffalo would look at this Rangers roster, their depth of prospects and that’s the best they could land league wide? That’s a pipe dream IMO. A two for one? A semi-one dimensional defenseman and a question mark for Eichel who is a #1 center. Really?
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Yes on both, though I don’t think $3-3.5m is anything near what it would take to sign Chytil. You’d need to go up at least $1m. $5.5m for Buch for 5+ years.
Okay then I ask again....
Who is putting up a better base than that? I agree that it will take more than just those 2, but youd be hard pressed to find a team that can offer a better base UNLESS Buffalo's preference is to go with futures instead.
Anaheim could, but I don't think they'd be too interested in trading away what young talent they have. Chicago could depending on how Buffalo feels about Boqvist.
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If it’s going to take more than “just those 2” then why are you challenging other to beat it? If you want the player, a soon to be 24 year old $10 million dollar Center, post the real offer then.
Edmonton, Colorado, LA, you mentioned Anaheim, Montreal, Philly can package a lot too.
you had better bring Miller, Krazkov, Nils to the table. An Eichel move with be as much about obtaining much more than a 2 for 1 as it will be for cutting cost.
my thinking that 3-3.5 mil is potentially cheap later in the deal but its also a big overpayment right now so it balances out...if his deal didn't slide and he was a RFA right now based on his production right now we'd probably be talking about a bridge deal for under $2 mil
also its a starting point...but if we get too high then at some point I'm letting the year play out and banking on him not exploding and having a break out season.
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