Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LXII

[EdJovanovski]

What else would it be if not Laf? Kakko?

Would you guys do something around Mika for Eichel? Mika doesn’t have that mentality of someone who lives & breathes hockey, is kinda injury prone and I think as he gets older it is a bit of a risk to commit to him, Mika+ for Eichel could end up being what Brassard for Mika was
There’s no way we get him for a combo of Buch, ADA, Georgiev, etc
One of Laf, Mika, or Kakko is in that deal

 

[NYR]

I'm thinking enough with the Eichel shit already unless we get some solid info.

On the other hand

Are Andersson and Kravstov going to be playing this year because that's a big deal..

 

[EdJovanovski]

I'm thinking enough with the Eichel shit already unless we get some solid info.

On the other hand

Are Andersson and Kravstov going to be playing this year because that's a big deal..

Rangers beat writers claim Kravtsov will and the KHL claims he won’t. I trust the KHL more than random beat writers but idk

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

Rangers have definitely brought guys back before, maybe not all high profile and I'm doing this while multitasking but some names I can think of

-Ron Duguay
-Mike McEwen (yes it was more of a cameo but he was back for a few weeks in 1986)
-Mark Osbourne (1994-95)
-Petr Nedved (2x if you count when he was in Training Camp 2008)
-Doug Lidster
-Esa Tikannen
-Mark Messier(!!!)
-Martin Rucinsky like 8x (ok it was only 3)
-Sandy McCarthy
-Sean Avery
-Maxin Kondratiev (didn't make the team out of camp in 2008 and peaced out).

 

[LokiDog]

I’d move Kakko for Eichel.

Kakko was #2 in a mediocre draft year. Eichel would have been the clear #1 almost any year except for the one with McDavid in it. I’d say there’s like less than a 2% chance Kakko is a better player than Eichel, and I’d rather have a center, and Eichel is still super young.

 

[bbny]

What else would it be if not Laf? Kakko?

Would you guys do something around Mika for Eichel? Mika doesn’t have that mentality of someone who lives & breathes hockey, is kinda injury prone and I think as he gets older it is a bit of a risk to commit to him, Mika+ for Eichel could end up being what Brassard for Mika was
There’s no way we get him for a combo of Buch, ADA, Georgiev, etc
One of Laf, Mika, or Kakko is in that deal

I don't think Buffalo would be interested in Zib, and he has a NMC so I don't think it's even viable.

I would include Kakko in a deal for Eichel without hesitation, but I'm pretty sure Buffalo would say #1 pick required in any offer or no deal.

 

[NYSPORTS]

The Laine thing is super interesting. He is the big fish out there for sure. Listening to Rick Ralph being interviewed it seems like Laine is a goner. Of course he didn't come out 100 percent and say that but you could sense he was hinting at it.
In the East Montreal and possibly Philly could be fits. Philly would lose someone like Frost/Farabee and one of their better young d?

what is wrong with him? All offense no defense?

 

[NYSPORTS]

I’d move Kakko for Eichel.

Kakko was #2 in a mediocre draft year. Eichel would have been the clear #1 almost any year except for the one with McDavid in it. I’d say there’s like less than a 2% chance Kakko is a better player than Eichel, and I’d rather have a center, and Eichel is still super young.

Eichel was 19 as a rookie while Kakko was 18. Can’t compare apples to oranges as i see it.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

Rangers lucked out and will have a franchise player and face of the franchise in Lafreniere. Let it be. These trade ideas are bonkers and made by bored men.

If anything, Eichel can be added down the road to play with Lafreniere or Kakko. And that's when guys like Buch/Chytil/Barron/Kravstov you can see where they are and use them as part of a deal IF needed.

Everyone is still being evaluated even Mika. You need leaders and guys to step up in the playoffs. Keenan was very over the top in his dealings with the 1994 team but look, even Tampa needed to add grit to get it done. The Rangers as a group today are too passive and not angry enough to have a deep playoff run. Will some of those guys improve? Absolutely but not all will be here including the coach when this team is ready to make some noise.

 

[LokiDog]

Eichel was 19 as a rookie while Kakko was 18. Can’t compare apples to oranges as i see it.

I didn’t compare their seasons in any capacity whatsoever. I’m comparing them as talents. Eichel is almost blatantly superior and plays the more important position.

 

[egelband]

I don't think Buffalo would be interested in Zib, and he has a NMC so I don't think it's even viable.

I would include Kakko in a deal for Eichel without hesitation, but I'm pretty sure Buffalo would say #1 pick required in any offer or no deal.

I think Kakko has more value than you’re suggesting. I would hope most GMs aren’t bothered by a ‘developmental’ 18yo season. He’s still a dynamite prospect and obviously cost-controlled.
I agree Buffalo probably asks for more but I’d say Kakko is a huge, head-turning chip.

 

[bl02]

what is wrong with him? All offense no defense?

That was the main one. But overall just his tone was indicating he wasn't gonna be there long term. He also brought up the fact he travels with his Playstation and plays Fortnite pretty much every chance he has.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I wouldn't move Kakko or the 1OA for Eichel.

I put together a package with Chytil+DeAngelo and dare someone to beat it.

 

[NYSPORTS]

That was the main one. But overall just his tone was indicating he wasn't gonna be there long term. He also brought up the fact he travels with his Playstation and plays Fortnite pretty much every chance he has.

Awesome, a vidiot.

 

[egelband]

I wouldn't move Kakko or the 1OA for Eichel.

I put together a package with Chytil+DeAngelo and dare someone to beat it.

Probably more of a next year situation, though. Right now, Buffalo has the leverage. If things get ugly in a year or two, and they are compelled to trade him, sure. We just have to have the best offer. Right now, though, we need to probably get over Buffalo’s “dream” bar.

 

[McRanger]

Rangers have definitely brought guys back before, maybe not all high profile and I'm doing this while multitasking but some names I can think of

-Ron Duguay
-Mike McEwen (yes it was more of a cameo but he was back for a few weeks in 1986)
-Mark Osbourne (1994-95)
-Petr Nedved (2x if you count when he was in Training Camp 2008)
-Doug Lidster
-Esa Tikannen
-Mark Messier(!!!)
-Martin Rucinsky like 8x (ok it was only 3)
-Sandy McCarthy
-Sean Avery
-Maxin Kondratiev (didn't make the team out of camp in 2008 and peaced out).

Dom Moore.

I don’t see them bringing back a former core piece like Zucc. But a plug like Grabner or Boyle? If there is a fit? Definitely.

 

[bbny]

I think Kakko has more value than you’re suggesting. I would hope most GMs aren’t bothered by a ‘developmental’ 18yo season. He’s still a dynamite prospect and obviously cost-controlled.
I agree Buffalo probably asks for more but I’d say Kakko is a huge, head-turning chip.

Agreed, and I didn't mean for it to come across that way. Getting Kakko in a deal for Eichel would be a hell of a return for Buffalo, and maybe better than what anyone else would offer.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Probably more of a next year situation, though. Right now, Buffalo has the leverage. If things get ugly in a year or two, and they are compelled to trade him, sure. We just have to have the best offer. Right now, though, we need to probably get over Buffalo’s “dream” bar.

They paid out his bonus already so they almost certainly won't move him this offseason.

I don't think they have the leverage now and they certainly won't if this pops up again a year from now. It's been mentioned in these threads many times, but the amount of teams who have the cap space/pieces/need/are places he'd be happy to go to (yes he doesn't have NT protection, but no GM is trading for a player who doesn't want to play for them) are pretty limited.

The amount of realistic suitors would be 5 tops and I'm not sure that a team like LA or Anaheim would even want to get in on that right now.

 

[Richard Banger]

Rangers beat writers claim Kravtsov will and the KHL claims he won’t. I trust the KHL more than random beat writers but idk

You believe a Russian more?

you gullible kid.

 

[LeetchisGod]

Agreed, and I didn't mean for it to come across that way. Getting Kakko in a deal for Eichel would be a hell of a return for Buffalo, and maybe better than what anyone else would offer.

I'd be very surprised if the Rangers traded Kakko. When was the last time anyone received a prospect of that level for a star player? The return is generally never that good.

 

[egelband]

They paid out his bonus already so they almost certainly won't move him this offseason.

I don't think they have the leverage now and they certainly won't if this pops up again a year from now. It's been mentioned in these threads many times, but the amount of teams who have the cap space/pieces/need/are places he'd be happy to go to (yes he doesn't have NT protection, but no GM is trading for a player who doesn't want to play for them) are pretty limited.

The amount of realistic suitors would be 5 tops and I'm not sure that a team like LA or Anaheim would even want to get in on that right now.

Buffalo really doesn’t have much pressure to trade him, really. He’s under contract forever. The team hasn’t been good, but it’s not like he’s going to get much sympathy now. I think at this point Buffalo is just cracking the door to the possibility.

 

[mas0764]

Eichel was 19 as a rookie while Kakko was 18. Can’t compare apples to oranges as i see it.

I love how fashionable it’s become to shit all over Kakko.

 

[NYblades]

Probably more of a next year situation, though. Right now, Buffalo has the leverage. If things get ugly in a year or two, and they are compelled to trade him, sure. We just have to have the best offer. Right now, though, we need to probably get over Buffalo’s “dream” bar.

Yep, if Buffalo struggles early next season, and Eichel starts getting frustrated that's when I see Buffalo getting more eager to deal him.

 

[EdJovanovski]

I wouldn't move Kakko or the 1OA for Eichel.

I put together a package with Chytil+DeAngelo and dare someone to beat it.

Buffalo would tell you to beat it

 

[mas0764]

Buffalo would tell you to beat it

Maybe for now. Not when he’s actually asking out.