Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LXI

[Calad]

I wonder what the possibility of the Rangers performing a sign & trade with another team and using it to our advantage:

Sign Deangelo to 6y x 6m but have the signing bonus in the first year be a sizeable sum, it could generate some extra value for us if we're dealing with a cash strapped team that needs a RD.

 

[effen]

Maybe even take out Buch and see what ADA and Georgiev gets you.

this is a pretty easy yes on my end. trading from surplus for an area of weakness. i dont really care if its 115 cents on the dollar, thats just the cost of doing business for centers.

 

[Matt Rentfree]

And I don't mean to poo poo the deal out right or any specific piece involved. I'm just not a fan of the equation, which admittedly is pure speculation.

Maybe I'm way off base but if Lindholm is off limits then I pull Buch and swap in Strome and Georgiev. That's a cap savings right off the bat for Calgary. They can see if Strome fits their center need or he can play the right if Lindholm is the pivot.

From my POV, right wing is really not a strength for us and you're right - unless we're getting "our guy" in the trade, we shouldn't be trading Buch when the depth behind him are a bunch of question marks at this point.

 

[Thirty One]

NHL player agent Allan Walsh sheds some light on this year and the next years moving forward and how that relates to players contracts and problems facing teams in regards to the cap.

Somehow he blocked me from this.

 

[Trxjw]

I'm really curious to see (though we may never know) if the Rangers have anything on the table for their guys that's reliant upon the draft. Like we've speculated that Buffalo and Anaheim might be in play for DeAngelo with their high picks. Obviously those options go away after Tuesday. So far it seems like they're pretty intent on a hockey trade though.

 

[Tkachuky]

Yet there are Calgary posters on the trade forum who say Monahan's numbers are a product of Gaudreau.

A handful of Flames fans does not equal majority. Monahan produces and has done so consistently since coming into the league. He’s just not flashy.

 

[Polar Bear]

SiriusXM NHL - Grant McCagg just shit on Mike Rupp for pushing the idea of the Rangers trading the 1OA. Again pushing this idea after he did it with Dave Maloney the other day. Enough already Rupper

About time.

 

[GAGLine]

Been saying for months. Give Tony the Werenski contract. Maybe 1 shorter since 5m x 3y would take him straight to UFA. I suppose if they take him to arbitration they can elect a 2 year deal? Maybe that makes the most sense here. Kicks the can down the road with the Lundkvist looming. Allows us (or whatever team that acquires him) to negotiate his long term deal.

If Tony elects arbitration, then the team gets to choose (prior to the hearing) whether it will be 1 or 2 years. If the team elects, then Tony gets to choose.

 

[duhmetreE]

What can we possibly offer TB for Sergachev

It makes sense for them to see what they can replenish for him... With McDonagh and Hedman already there... unless one of them moves to their off-side

 

[Avery16]

Yet there are Calgary posters on the trade forum who say Monahan's numbers are a product of Gaudreau.

In other words, Strome is his comparable?

 

[GAGLine]

What can we possibly offer TB for Sergachev

Tampa needs to clear space, and we don't have the space for Sergachev unless we move someone, so it would at least require 2 separate deals and us sending mostly/all futures to Tampa.

 

[Edge]

If Tony elects arbitration, then the team gets to choose (prior to the hearing) whether it will be 1 or 2 years. If the team elects, then Tony gets to choose.

Something tells me Tony's personality and arbitration could make for an interesting mix.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Something tells me Tony's personality and arbitration could make for an interesting mix.

I’m sure he’d relish the opportunity to fellatiate himself

 

[Edge]

In other words, Strome is his comparable?

Yeah, if you add about half-a-decade of track record, an average of 25 more points per season, the ability to take faceoffs, about 10-15 additional goals per year, take about a year off the birth certificate, add an already signed cost-controlled contract, improve the faceoff percentage by about 5 or 6 points, change the playstyle up, and swap out a few other components, it's pretty much a dead-ringer.

 

[FireGerardGallant]

I cannot believe how many people are this opposed to acquiring Monahan

 

[Thirty One]

Something tells me Tony's personality and arbitration could make for an interesting mix.

Yep, this has long been a concern of mine.

 

[RGY]

I cannot believe how many people are this opposed to acquiring Monahan

Not opposed, so much as it is that I would prefer Lindholm. But I wouldnt be upset if it was Monahan. I’d prefer Monahan to say Danault. But also wouldnt be upset getting Danault depending on what the trade was.

 

[Trxjw]

I know some people around here wanted him.

 

[Avery16]

Yeah, if you add about half-a-decade of track record, an average of 25 more points per season, the ability to take faceoffs, about 10-15 additional goals per year, take about a year off the birth certificate, add an already signed cost-controlled contract, improve the faceoff percentage by about 5 or 6 points, change the playstyle up, and swap out a few other components, it's pretty much a dead-ringer.

That was a joke.

 

[Thirty One]

I’m sure he’d relish the opportunity to fellatiate himself

I wonder if he brings up his analytics if the Rangers can play his podcast episode of his banal take on the worth of analytics.

 

[Edge]

Not opposed, so much as it is that I would prefer Lindholm. But I wouldnt be upset if it was Monahan. I’d prefer Monahan to say Danault. But also wouldnt be upset getting Danault depending on what the trade was.

I'd say for most people, the cost of any trade comes down to the price.

I'd prefer Lindholm to Monahan, and Monahan to Danault.

But it depends on the cost difference, and availability.

 

[Thirty One]

I know some people around here wanted him.

Yes, but that was when I thought it was pronounced like saucy.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

I wonder if he brings up his analytics if the Rangers can play his podcast episode of his banal take on the worth of analytics.

Would be the second most epic self own this year

 

[Edge]

That was a joke.

I know, but there are people in the thread who think there is a comparable there --- which is interesting to me.

Monahan certainly isn't a savior, he's not my personal top choice, but there's a substantial gap there between he and Strome. That opinion not being univeral is where I'm surprised.

 

[Avery16]

I know, but there are people in the thread who think there is a comparable there --- which is interesting to me.

Monahan certainly isn't a savior, he's not my personal top choice, but there's a substantial gap there between he and Strome. That opinion not being univeral is where I'm surprised.

I haven't seen anyone say that Monahan wouldn't be an improvement over Strome in terms of ability and production.

I have pointed out that he costs twice as much as Strome and that is not enough as the main piece in return for ADA. But those are different statements.