Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part LIII
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NYR Viper
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I could see a deal of Strome for Andersson. That’s skill for grit. Columbus has a hard time signing him last time. He’s 1 year from UFA just like Strome. Strome provides more skill and offense to a line-up looking for exactly that. Andersson provides what the Rangers need as well. I don’t see the Buch for Andersson deal as Buch has more control
I wouldn’t be against it in principle but it leaves us short a center and over stacked on wings, without accounting for Kravstov. At this point a follow on deal would have to be made with Buch/Krav or both going for a C upgrade.
Anderson is a guy that they probably move out west. He's a guy that can deliver some Wilsonesque punishment, but isn't a dirty player. If the relationship between him and CLB has soured, that's not a guy you want to play 4-5 times a year.
That seems like an awful lot for a guy who had 4 points in 20+ games last year and has one good shoulder. Not that he isn't a good player but I have some concerns there.
Playoff Bennet is a hell of a player. He's going to have value. I would think CGY wants defensemen, perhaps two proven top 4 defensemen. But overall that's a team with a pretty good young core if they don't decide to blow it up. Their backend needs a lot of work, and outside of one prospect, it's not looking like they have a lot of help coming. That's why they were able to get all of those college UFAs. Not sure if they are the solution.
Shesterkybomb
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Honestly i think Anderson seems to me to be someone you'd need to see a full healthy year out of in order to trade your 2c for him. He could be Rangers Prust or end of the road Prust depending on his shoulders.
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dshea19
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Same age that Callahan started his decline, and Girardi, and Staal. For guys that play a game predicated on being physical, and not being 6'4" physical specimens, 28 is the point at which things seem to start to take a toll. Could he be different? Sure. Then again, we have seen this play out before. If they signed him for 3-4 years at 3 per, and injuries start mounting? We'll see. It is a tough choice at a point in the rebuild that is kind of in between.
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If we aren’t adding expansion exempt players then we really just need to keep remembering that the front office is saying “patience,” and just sit tight another year.
Things may look very different in our D prospect pool by then. Why trade for Brodie now??
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LaffyTaffy
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I would definitely entertain a Strome for Anderson+ trade. And then any deal we may make with Calgary id target Bennet as an add in. Something like Buch+Lias+22 for Hanifin and Bennett.
Shesterkybomb
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All these trades lol. People are gonna be awfully disappointed when we start the season with roughly the same team we finished with give or take a player.
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This simultaneously puts a ton of pressure on Kakko and Chytil. Buchnevich and Strome are acting protection for each of the youngsters, respectively, while your proposed replacements would not be expected to provide that.
This is along the lines of why I tailored my proposal as a single trade for the entirety of the offseason, that keeps all of our young guys well insulated.
DeAngelo + Howden + Georgiev for Hanifin + Bennett + Jankowski (+/- accordingly; Rangers may give up better value, but the return is tailored to needs and makes the roster stronger).
Panarin - Strome - Kakko
Kreider - Zibanejad - Buchevich
Lafreniere - Bennett - Chytil
Lemieux - Jankowski - Gauthier
Hanifin - Trouba
Lindgren - Fox
Smith/Hajek - Vet stop gap
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Miller/Lundkvist/Barron are a year away. That bottom pair becomes Miller - Lundkvist, Barron can push someone out of the bottom six. Kravstov also still in the wings. Basically overloaded at forward with enough ammo to make a big package for an upgrade if needed, including an extra 1st this year, and a very, very solid defense one year from now, with more in the system and with massive potential.
Hanifin and Bennett may not be as valuable as DeAngelo but the deal really balances our roster and addresses positions, and characteristics, we’re lacking in. Bennett could also end up successful centering Panarin, solving the Strome conundrum.
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I mean the short of is that IMHO it’s better than the other proposal as the team essentially trades RD for LD but taken it as a whole I’m not sure if it will work cap wise. The other thing is I’m also not a fan of moving Chytil to a wing.
Bennett and Strome also have experience on the wing, so it could be Chytil centering Bennett and still leaves room for Chytil to eventually center Panarin, depending on development. If Strome ends up 3RW for a year and is dealt or not re-signed, we can fill that hole internally. Bennett insulates the C position, would help with PK and adds character. Guys like him who know how to elevate in the post season would also help the mental makeup of the team. Eventual potential:
Panarin - Chytil - Kakko
Kreider - Zibanejad - Buch
Lafreniere - Bennett - Strome/Kravstov
Eventually Laf leaps Kreider. Kravstov means that if Chytil supplants Strome, we have the internal replacement on the wing ready to come in. Bennett being there is good insurance.
I think cap wise it works. Hanifin makes less than DeAngelo’s extension would cost. Bennett gets Howden + Georgie’s money.
Will be interesting to see if Calgary pursues a shake-up or not. There was some speculation about Hall wanting to go home to Calgary. Fridge said he thought they'd be in the mix for OEL as well. Bennett checks a lot of boxes for this team. Just don't know if he actually shakes loose.
DutchShamrock
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Bennett will not be the guy shaking loose. Gaudreau has a greater chance of leaving, and that won't have anything to do with us.
NYR Viper
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To be more clear on my earlier post, I wasn’t recommending Strome for Andersson as the only pieces in a deal, just that it woof make MORE sense for the team to move Strome in lieu of Buch due to contract control
GeorgeKaplan
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I like the idea in general, but I don't know if I like targeting Andersson. He's going to want to get his money on the next contract and he's definitely the type of guy to turn into a big anchor for the last half of it
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