Roster Building thread - Part IX - (2024 edition)

[Vitto79]

Hopefully Vesey gets a long look with Kreider and Mika. He deserves it.

3 weeks to go as they likely wait to add
Probably get Jimmy

 

[lakeshirts37]

Agree, trade him while he still has some value as a B-C prospect, he’s never making the Rangers.

B-C prospect level seems a bit high but I havent watched him play at all

 

[Cygnus 2112]

Re: Wheeler- not to be rude, but do we want him back for the PO's? I don't.

 

[lakeshirts37]

didn't stop them trading for Chychrun... 3 way then. I'm sure theres a young team willing to give up assets for a 'stay at home' LHD.

That’s because Chychrun can play the right side…

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

Poor Wheeler. Say what you will about his play (father time catching up to him) but he wanted to be here and I always appreciate that from players.

I actually think he had found a way to become pretty effective the last couple months. Wanted to upgrade on him for the lineup but he could've been decent depth for the playoffs and a veteran presence.

 

[NYR Viper]

Re: Wheeler- not to be rude, but do we want him back for the PO's? I don't.

The answer is, it depends. If the Rangers acquire someone like Duclair but someone else at RW is injured at some point, having Wheeler would be a benefit.

Blake Wheeler had 21 points in 54 games playing ~12:30 a game, most of which was at 5v5. People dislike him, it would seem, because he was playing with Kreider and Zibanejad but that line was growing more and more effective as time moved on. Let's keep things in perspective:


Blake Wheeler
1.6 p/60 @ 5v5 this year

Adam Henrique
1.8 p/60 @ 5v5 this year

Sean Monahan
1.5 p/60 @ 5v5 this year

Yanni Gourde
1.3 p/60 @ 5v5 this year


The list can continue like this for a while. And Wheeler was playing some of his time with the likes of Bonino as his center before he was elevated to the Kreider/Zibanejad line and it's not like he was getting 'easy' matchups playing with those guys. Laviolette doesn't really shelter or play specific lines against specific players.


All in all, Wheeler was a pretty successful signing and a very good bang-for-your-buck player in this lineup which was, and is lacking for RW depth.

 

[ColonialsHockey10]

Say what you want about Wheeler, our injury luck has been comically bad this year.

Everyone has broken their leg or tore their MCL.

 

[E-Train]

I’m surprised there’s even a chance for him to come back. I thought this was the whole ACL, MCL, Meniscus blow out. I’m good with rolling Jimothy on the first line and auditioning someone from Hartford on the 4th line until the deadline.

 

[Ail]

Starting to get anxious they are going to trade assets for someone sucky.

 

[Kords]

Really bummed for Wheeler. Wasn’t the best option but he seemed like a good dude.

 

[kovazub94]

Too bad for Wheeler - I wish him a FULL recovery foremost!
What are the rules on performance bonuses and LTIR cap excess? Can the cap be exceeded by his $300k? Will this amount be fully absorbed this year or need to be carried over to next season?

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Kreider - Mika - Vesebone
Panarin - Troch - Alf
Cuylle - Brody - Kakko
???? - Goodrow - Edstorm

I guess this is how it’s going be until trades are made

Starting to get anxious they are going to trade assets for someone sucky.

Yeah , if we go for a trade I want a big one. Otherwise why bother

 

[ElLeetch]

another name to the list for "career ended while a Ranger due to injuries"

Blake Wheeler
Chris Drury
Pat LaFontaine
Mike Richter
Stefan Cherneski
Michael Sauer
Pavel Bure

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

Too bad for Wheeler - I wish him a FULL recovery foremost!
What are the rules on performance bonuses and LTIR cap excess? Can the cap be exceeded by his $300k? Will this amount be fully absorbed this year or need to be carried over to next season?

Pretty sure the 300k will be carried over to next season's cap, I believe Wheeler hit that performance bonus when he played his 30th (?) game.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

another name to the list for "career ended while a Ranger due to injuries"

Blake Wheeler
Chris Drury
Pat LaFontaine
Mike Richter
Stefan Cherneski
Michael Sauer
Pavel Bure

You forgot Blackburn

 

[NYR Viper]

Kreider - Mika - Vesebone
Panarin - Troch - Alf
Cuylle - Brody - Kakko
???? - Goodrow - Edstorm

I guess this is how it’s going be until trades are made


Yeah , if we go for a trade I want a big one. Otherwise why bother

I'd really like to see Berard there but I could see Drury offering to take on a contract pre-deadline of someone a team isn't looking to retain but could be useful. Someone who would cost practically nothing other than saving the other team cash.

How about:
Anthony Beauvillier
Anthony Duclair
Max Domi (would Toronto look to cut his cap to make room elsewhere?)
Alexander Barabanov
Zemgus Girgensons

 

[RangerBoy]

Victor Olofsson. Mid to late round pick. $4.75M



Buffalo retains 50%.

 

[NYR Viper]

Victor Olofsson. Mid to late round pick. $4.75M



Buffalo retains 50%.

That's another good one.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

I'd really like to see Berard there but I could see Drury offering to take on a contract pre-deadline of someone a team isn't looking to retain but could be useful. Someone who would cost practically nothing other than saving the other team cash.

How about:
Anthony Beauvillier
Anthony Duclair
Max Domi (would Toronto look to cut his cap to make room elsewhere?)
Alexander Barabanov
Zemgus Girgensons

Hate all those players lol

Except duclair and Zemgus because he would be cheap

 

[duhmetreE]

Shocked it wasn't Othmann but I don't mind this at all

It’s for 4th line duties.

I’d honestly love to see the two big trees together with someone like Brodz on the 4th.

Vegas won a cup with Howden playing with stone and Stephenson. I can see Vesey sticking in the top 9.

Go get a 3C to drop Brodz to 4C

That’s because Chychrun can play the right side…

He played the left side on Arizona unless I’m missing something

 

[bhamill]

Agree to disagree. Forwards, 95% of the time, don't go supernova at age 29. Statistically, they're already starting to decline. That didn't happen with Kreider, and the team has obviously benefitted greatly from it.

These days, with sports training science and medicine I’d say 32 is the age players generally start to decline, of course it’s very variable depending on style of play, genetics and injury track record. Players’ peak these days would be 25 or 26 to 31 or 32.
As far as Kreider, you or anyone else EXPECTING him to decline doesn’t mean it was a bad contract, it means your assessment of Kreider’s play going forward was off. The proof is ALWAYS in the pudding: how the player performs during the contract is the ONLY thing (outside of freak accident/injury, or weird cap stuff) that determines whether it was a good, smart signing or not. I’d say Kreider’s performance has thus far borne this out to be a very good contract.

 

[LOFIN]

 

[UnSandvich]

I hated the Kreider contract when it was signed, and felt he was the wrong guy to re-sign over Buch. But Kreider has definitely over-delivered thus far on it. It also was probably less money and term than he'd have gotten on the open market

 

[Kords]

Rempe/Goodrow/Edstrom could be fun. Rempe feeding one of the Islander plugs center ice at MetLife stadium in front of 80k would be magical.

 

[TheDirtyH]

It's Jimmy szn baby