Roster Building thread - Part IX - (2024 edition)

[will1066]

Just go trade for McCarron and bench Goodrow and roll:

Rempe-McCarron-Edstrom
6'7 - 6'6 - 6'7

Paying a player that kind of money not to play or a coach not to coach (firing) is always the last resort. They're not going to bench Goodrow.

 

[Mac n Gs]

I’ve said it before, and now with the Wheeler injury I’ll say it again: the answer was, is, and always will be: PHIL TOMASINO

 

[duhmetreE]

Goodrow is the last guy you want to move now. The Rangers need more sandpaper, not less.

Rempe, Edstrom and add a guy like Trenin if needed.

He's not good at anything

 

[Raspewtin]

Rempe, Edstrom and add a guy like Trenin if needed.

He's not good at anything

more accurate to say he's "bad at everything" than not good at anything imo

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Goodrow is the last guy you want to move now. The Rangers need more sandpaper, not less.

There are takes and then there is this.

 

[duhmetreE]

Any chance Nashville would move Ryan O'Reilly?

Take him with Trenin.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Any chance Nashville would move Ryan O'Reilly?

Take him with Trenin.

None.

 

[McRanger92]

Paying a player that kind of money not to play or a coach not to coach (firing) is always the last resort. They're not going to bench Goodrow.

The guy also wears an A. The team respects him even if we know he stinks. 1st place squad isnt benching a team leader because his charts dont look good. Not hard to understand.

I do think he is tradeable in the right deal.

 

[Raspewtin]

The guy also wears an A. The team respects him even if we know he stinks. 1st place squad isnt benching a team leader because his charts dont look good. Not hard to understand.

I do think he is tradeable in the right deal.

I don't disagree but then we should just accept we're going into the playoffs with a severe liability then. Same with Lindgren. I am more than aware of the talk track about them not going anywhere but then what's there to do but accept that we're probably screwed?

 

[Guyute]

Just go trade for McCarron and bench Goodrow and roll:

Rempe-McCarron-Edstrom
6'7 - 6'6 - 6'7

Preds literally just re-signed McCarron

 

[McRanger92]

I don't disagree but then we should just accept we're going into the playoffs with a severe liability then. Same with Lindgren. I am more than aware of the talk track about them not going anywhere but then what's there to do but accept that we're probably screwed?

Lindgren is a much bigger problem than Goodrow at this stage of the game. Also, you should accept that we were screwed before the first puck drop of the season, that way nothing can happen but pleasant surprises lol

 

[Levitate]

Goodrow is the last guy you want to move now. The Rangers need more sandpaper, not less.

I don't really see Goodrow providing a whole lot of that now to be honest. He spends most of his time chasing the play, not providing any grit.I think the thing would be to replace Goodrow with a better player who also has "sandpaper"

With the injury to Wheeler the Rangers now are in a bit of a weird spot. Even if they were open to moving Kakko now I feel like they "can't" unless it's some crazy deal that brings back a top six winger, and a decent third line center or something.

They might just be in the position where they need to stand pat and just look to add some depth pieces. Ironically they might be pretty well stocked on depth pieces from Hartford if they're inclined to use them.

If the Rangers could swing something for an upgrade to play with Fox then that'd maybe be the biggest impact move but it'll probably cost.

Honestly don't know what the good move here is with the market being pretty crappy and the Rangers not really being able to move much off their roster either

I do like what I've seen out of Edstrom, he was surprisingly comfortable and effective in that role. Being able to move so well for a large player and just be disruptive, create turnovers, move the puck, etc, very effective for the 4th line IMO.

And yeah might as well give Vesey a swing at the Zibanejad RW spot.

 

[kovazub94]

Who pissed in your cornflakes?

Must be wonderful to make snarky comments with the benefit of hindsight.

The Kreider deal was 100% overpayment on the day it was signed. Go back and take a look at that thread. It has nothing to do with my thoughts on the player (who, by the way, I love). Prior to signing that extension, Kreider's career high in goals was 28, and in points, it was 53. He also was rarely used as a PKer at the time.

Has he earned his deal in hindsight? Yes, of course he has. But that doesn't change the fact that his deal would have been a million lower if they had waited until the summer to extend, with the benefit of knowledge about the flat cap. I'll say it again: Kreider didn't give any indication that he would become the player he has at the time that deal was signed. But that's not even my point. My point is that the team got a little unlucky with the timing of those 3 deals. It's hurt our cap.

I’m sorry, so you are not allowed to use hindsight to expect Kreider to become 35ish goal player (though one could argue that it was possible to predict this increase), but you can use hindsight to know that the cap would remain flat contrary to all expectations at that time?

 

[kovazub94]

I don't know if anyone's picking up on the fact that the unusable fat in the lineup is slowly being trimmed, through different circumstances, leaving a leaner meaner squad.

Made this comment a few times already.

 

[Hockeyplayer99]

Drury is batting .400 on veteran depth signings this year. Vesey and Gustafson were hits. Bonino, Pitlick and Wheeler were misses. Honestly not a bad rate—a lot of teams churn the bottom half of their lineup and hope that it eventually clicks. What’s nice is Drury kept those contracts close to the minimum so they would be easy to offload if needed. No harm no foul, they’re sitting at the top of the Conference, and he has Hartford and the TDL to work with.

You forgot about Quick, he was a big hit

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Lindgren is a much bigger problem than Goodrow at this stage of the game. Also, you should accept that we were screwed before the first puck drop of the season, that way nothing can happen but pleasant surprises lol

100% because of his role and who he plays with.

55 and 8 are problems #1 and 2. 21 is a distant #3.

Never a good sign when your most frequent partner is a full 7+% better than you are.

Also anger inducing because who knows where Fox would be with a legit partner.

 

[Hockeyplayer99]

I’m sorry, so you are not allowed to use hindsight to expect Kreider to become 35ish goal player (though one could argue that it was possible to predict this increase), but you can use hindsight to know that the cap would remain flat contrary to all expectations at that time?

I remember the Rangers were thinking about maybe trading Kreider to the Avs for there first pick because we wanted Newhook. Sakic didn't want to do that trade, well thank you Sakic because Newhook isn't anything special and Kreider has become a good goal scorer, wish he was more physical but at least he can score goals.

 

[Hockeyplayer99]

Just go trade for McCarron and bench Goodrow and roll:

Rempe-McCarron-Edstrom
6'7 - 6'6 - 6'7

I like that line, except Edstrom really isn't that physical. For his size he should be throwing his body around and knocking people down. I want to see more bite out of Edstrom in the physical aspect. He does other things well and glad he is up,

 

[Levitate]

IMO the frustrating thing about Kreider at the moment is that he 100% coasts and "saves energy" a lot these days and doesn't battle a lot along the boards. I'm kind of hoping that he ups the intensity in the playoffs but in general he used to be more active and dogged on the puck than he is now. Maybe it's just age, maybe it's consciously conserving energy and avoiding injury, I'm not sure.

I'd like it if he put a bit more effort into his board battles at least to the extent of having a plan to do something with the puck other than whack at it and then stand up straight to look around and see where the puck went

e: regarding Edstrom and being physical, it's very very rare that players just learn how to be "mean" and hit a lot no matter how big they are. He's never been a bit hitting physical player, and hinging his success or failure in the NHL on that is probably a silly idea. I guess it's fine to wish for it if we can acknowledge he's a good player (assuming that is what he pans out at in the NHL). His size gives him advantages even if he's not using it to crush other players a lot and he moves far better than most players his size.

 

[17futurecap]

 

[RangerBoy]

32T. Laughton is worth more than a 1st round pick because there is term remaining on his contract

Monahan has zero points in four games for the Jets. Yesterday, I saw this tweet



The Jets spent their 1st on Monahan and they still need another trade. WTF!!!

The Jets made a bad trade and other teams should not make a worse trade because Monahan went for a 1st

These people are crazy

Jeff and Elliotte spent 5 minutes on 32T speculating on Jenner being traded.

 

[Levitate]

Laughton being worth more than a 1st rounder is nuts.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Yeah let someone else pay the 1st+ for Laughton.

 

[NYR Viper]

I like that line, except Edstrom really isn't that physical. For his size he should be throwing his body around and knocking people down. I want to see more bite out of Edstrom in the physical aspect. He does other things well and glad he is up,

IMO the frustrating thing about Kreider at the moment is that he 100% coasts and "saves energy" a lot these days and doesn't battle a lot along the boards. I'm kind of hoping that he ups the intensity in the playoffs but in general he used to be more active and dogged on the puck than he is now. Maybe it's just age, maybe it's consciously conserving energy and avoiding injury, I'm not sure.

I'd like it if he put a bit more effort into his board battles at least to the extent of having a plan to do something with the puck other than whack at it and then stand up straight to look around and see where the puck went

e: regarding Edstrom and being physical, it's very very rare that players just learn how to be "mean" and hit a lot no matter how big they are. He's never been a bit hitting physical player, and hinging his success or failure in the NHL on that is probably a silly idea. I guess it's fine to wish for it if we can acknowledge he's a good player (assuming that is what he pans out at in the NHL). His size gives him advantages even if he's not using it to crush other players a lot and he moves far better than most players his size.

Edstrom is actually pretty physical and was so in Hartford this year. He will throw his weight around when an opportunity presents itself for sure but he's not taking himself out of position to do so. That's a trait that likely will come as he grows more comfortable at this level as positioning is first for foremost

 

[kovazub94]

IMO the frustrating thing about Kreider at the moment is that he 100% coasts and "saves energy" a lot these days and doesn't battle a lot along the boards. I'm kind of hoping that he ups the intensity in the playoffs but in general he used to be more active and dogged on the puck than he is now. Maybe it's just age, maybe it's consciously conserving energy and avoiding injury, I'm not sure.

I'd like it if he put a bit more effort into his board battles at least to the extent of having a plan to do something with the puck other than whack at it and then stand up straight to look around and see where the puck went

e: regarding Edstrom and being physical, it's very very rare that players just learn how to be "mean" and hit a lot no matter how big they are. He's never been a bit hitting physical player, and hinging his success or failure in the NHL on that is probably a silly idea. I guess it's fine to wish for it if we can acknowledge he's a good player (assuming that is what he pans out at in the NHL). His size gives him advantages even if he's not using it to crush other players a lot and he moves far better than most players his size.

On offense Kreider learned in general to just give the puck to Zibanejad to carry the load in multiple ways in transition or in the zone where if a shot is not available then just go stay by the net.
On defense when the opposition is where I see the issue of battle level that's not there as you noted. It's hard to fathom but Kreider is going to be 33 soon so I'm thinking that energy conservation mode is intentional while keeping his sight on late season and playoffs.