Roster Building thread - Part IX - (2024 edition)

[Shesterkybomb]

Even the weird Kaapo Kakko that currently exists, not the one we wanted him to be, would probably be a good target for Buffalo

He's a good target for us. Why we trying to trade a 23 year old winger?

 

[Cmox]

lol, Did Biz lose a bet or is he trying to jinx them…

Anytime hes on the Rangers bandwagon its bad luck.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

The best way to find out how much influence Sather has on things is if Maroon becomes a Ranger, you know it’s happening.

 

[kovazub94]

have to imagine it would take a bit more than just Kakko to get Mittelstadt out of Buffalo

Would you make the same call at the end of last season?

 

[The Crypto Guy]

What is Mittelstadt predicted to get as a RFA? Seems like he would cost too much for us anyway. You are going to want years with this contract so he will probably be looking for 6-8 years, and that will cost at least 6.5-7.5M considering he is putting up 1st line numbers.

 

[AirGut]

What is Mittelstadt predicted to get as a RFA? Seems like he would cost too much for us anyway. You are going to want years with this contract so he will probably be looking for 6-8 years, and that will cost at least 6.5-7.5M considering he is putting up 1st line numbers.

I think if Drury is very serious about adding Mittelstadt to this team right now it means Chytil is never coming back. I'd think Chytil's cap hit freed up plus the salary cap going up leaguewide would be just enough money needed for a Mittelstadt extension.

 

[Alluckks]

lol, Did Biz lose a bet or is he trying to jinx them…

You should just read the other tweets from before it. He said/posted the Rangers should trade Igor for a 3rd line center as a troll to bait interaction with a large fanbase. Then after all the bozo-tagging he got in reaction he posted that as a troll

 

[Crease]

I worry that Brodzinski is just a guy and will be exposed in the playoffs.

 

[JimmyG89]

I think if Drury is very serious about adding Mittelstadt to this team right now it means Chytil is never coming back. I'd think Chytil's cap hit freed up plus the salary cap going up leaguewide would be just enough money needed for a Mittelstadt extension.

I don't think Chytil comes into play for this move if made. The cap is going up finally. 4-5M is where it goes up.

Factor in some other moves, including Goodrow being moved out, and you don't come close to the cap.

Schneider will not be that expensive on a short deal. The question would be do they give Lindgren another deal and what are the alternatives through free agency or trade. Is Gus trying to get a last bigger contract or wants to go where he fits?

You will have cheap ELC forwards. Edstrom, Othmann, Berard, Sykora. You don't think Brodzinski would come back cheap? Feel like he finally has gotten a spot here. Vesey is dirt cheap.

Kakko would almost be locked to be in the deal, so you don't have him to extend. If they bring Quick back, is he asking for a lot? Probably not.

My biggest concern would not be next season, but the season after. If we continue to see Lafreniere produce more and more, you're keeping him and on what kind of deal. Same goes for Miller. Then there is Igor.

 

[AlternateSideParking]

It's both comical and exhilarating that Casey f***ing Mittelstadt is being discussed on this board as a potential trade target for the Rangers in 2023-24.

 

[NYR Viper]

Minute point but with Cuylle showing he belongs and hopefully Edstrom as well, The Rangers will have quietly introduced two more rookies to their lineup this year. That doesn’t include Jones.

With the players they have coming, Berard, Othmann, Rempe, Perrault, Laba, Chmelar, it’s probably for the best that they get another young guy acclimated this year as it’s going to get backed up quickly unless they want to introduce 4 rookies in a single season.

 

[AirGut]

It's both comical and exhilarating that Casey f***ing Mittelstadt is being discussed on this board as a potential trade target for the Rangers in 2023-24.

he turned into a pretty good player so far. Would've been a much better 2017 draft if they took him at #7 over Andersson. If he's a consistent 60-70 point guy playing 3C there's potential for him at 2C in the future which is exactly what was hoped for with Chytil. He's definitely a Drury type of trade target, maybe even more so than Zegras.

 

[hockeyplayer999]

Interesting that "stats" say Rangers are in the top 10 in hits -- yet I can count on one hand any that were "memorable", game changing or even noticeable.

I find that hard to believe. I rarely see the Rangers throw a hit. Maybe they made a mistake and it meant the Rangers are number 1 in being hit. That I can believe.

 

[IDvsEGO]

It's both comical and exhilarating that Casey f***ing Mittelstadt is being discussed on this board as a potential trade target for the Rangers in 2023-24.

On its own for a 3c for the playoffs. Casey Mittelstadt isnt a bad idea (with that mostly being graded by cost).

If the cost was simply Conditional 1st, and C prospect, or in that level.
Its a no-brainer. We need a 3c, slides the lineup more appropriately. You could move brodz to RW with 20/93, or you move him to the 4th line rotation.
Either way the lineup got deeper.

I dont wanna move kakko or any good prospect. But with a 3c our lineup goes alot further into the playoffs, and then anything is possible.

 

[Synergy27]

Minute point but with Cuylle showing he belongs and hopefully Edstrom as well, The Rangers will have quietly introduced two more rookies to their lineup this year. That doesn’t include Jones.

With the players they have coming, Berard, Othmann, Rempe, Perrault, Laba, Chmelar, it’s probably for the best that they get another young guy acclimated this year as it’s going to get backed up quickly unless they want to introduce 4 rookies in a single season.

And they play middle 6 energy type roles. The kind of thing that it never makes sense to chase in FA and overpay for (ahem Goodrow).

Love seeing these guys come in and look like they belong.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

Minute point but with Cuylle showing he belongs and hopefully Edstrom as well, The Rangers will have quietly introduced two more rookies to their lineup this year. That doesn’t include Jones.

With the players they have coming, Berard, Othmann, Rempe, Perrault, Laba, Chmelar, it’s probably for the best that they get another young guy acclimated this year as it’s going to get backed up quickly unless they want to introduce 4 rookies in a single season.

We were saying this past summer that Cullye and Edstom due to age, man strength, and being more suited for a middle or bottom six were the most likely guys to make the team.

Next year it's Othmann's turn and maybe Berard and Sykora have a similar trajectory to Edstrom's right now (Sykora will probably be more of a fall 2025 edition). Rempe is a wild card. If he is really that good at faceoffs, he has a shot to be a 4th line hybrid C-W and PKer.

 

[AlternateSideParking]

he turned into a pretty good player so far. Would've been a much better 2017 draft if they took him at #7 over Andersson. If he's a consistent 60-70 point guy playing 3C there's potential for him at 2C in the future which is exactly what was hoped for with Chytil. He's definitely a Drury type of trade target, maybe even more so than Zegras.

Hindsight is 20/20, but I think -- maybe, possibly -- that someone on this board in 2017 advocated taking Mittelstadt over Andersson and was called every name in the book for hating the Andersson pick.

It would be the ultimate of ironies if they trade Cuylle for Mittelstadt straight up,

 

[CTTribe73]

It's both comical and exhilarating that Casey f***ing Mittelstadt is being discussed on this board as a potential trade target for the Rangers in 2023-24.

You're right....shame on us.

We should be discussing Draisaitl

 

[GENESISPuck94]

Trading Kakko for Midttelstadt would be a waste of a 2nd overall's value.

Zegras.

 

[bernmeister]

Trading Kakko for Midttelstadt would be a waste of a 2nd overall's value.

Zegras.

for oth + ber +

 

[AlternateSideParking]

Rangers are 9-7-0 against the top teams in the league, including 2-0 against both Tampa and Boston. This is the old Yankee formula of obliterating mediocre or worse opposition and playing .500 or slightly better against the contenders. On the surface, it's not crazy to think Drury has a fairly quiet deadline, but he's more likely going for it a third straight year, especially with so many kids in Hartford boosting their stock, the conference having a down year, and the group's hunger for a Cup. I'm just wondering how much longer he can wait since so many teams are within striking distance of the playoffs and the available talent will be on the weaker side.

The BU community is incredibly tight, mostly because of Jack Parker. Call it a hunch, but I think Drury's dealings will be with at least one of SJ (Grier/Quinn), Minnesota (Kelleher/Hynes), and Nashville (Kealty). I know Columbus has some intriguing targets, but I don't think Drury wants to trade within the division (I think 85-90% of his trades since taking over were out-of-conference). A holdup could be that Minnesota and Nashville, among others, are still in the mix for a wild-card berth.

I also guess Drury won't value his 2024 first-rounder as much, partly because the biggest organizational need is high-end defense prospects and this draft is loaded with them into the late second round and early third. He, as well as his scouts, probably figure there won't be much of a difference between a defender in the 26-32 range and 58-64 of this particular draft.

 

[RGY]

Watching the SEA/NYI game.

Gourde and Eberle both having good games. Gourde (no surprise here) is all over the ice making plays. His motor never seems to run out.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

I didn't even look it up but my guess is our record is way better with Kakko in the lineup than without him, I could be wrong but it feels that way.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

Watching the SEA/NYI game.

Gourde and Eberle both having good games. Gourde (no surprise here) is all over the ice making plays. His motor never seems to run out.

Gourde is the kind of guy you give up a first , another pick, and a good not great prospect (BMB) for.

 

[AlternateSideParking]

Trading Kakko for Midttelstadt would be a waste of a 2nd overall's value.

Zegras.

He's my target as well, but Zegras would be costly and I don't think Verbeek wants picks and prospects at any position except goal (Garand?), which whittles the return package options down to NHL-caliber types in Schneider, Miller, Lafreniere, and Cuylle. Maybe Othmann is a target because of his style of play and relationship with McTavish.

IMHO, I don't think Zegras is getting traded until after the draft lottery when Verbeek finds out if he lands Celebrini.

I think Miller for Zegras straight up is fair. Almost identical to RyJo for Jones, especially since Johansen was struggling under Torts after signing that huge deal. Ducks save money and could land a No. 1 defenseman, which is what Jones became for Columbus almost immediately.