Speculation: Roster Building Thread Part II: Anything Goes

[Fugazy]

Taking Zibanejad to 30 years old isn't a problem. The Stepan contract worked out very well. The Rangers turned him into Andersson + DeAngelo. That's a contract I'd give out every year if that happened all the time.

7 x 5. I'd offer it

In a heartbeat.

 

[silverfish]

Holy crap, I just realized Stalberg is a UFA. Sign that ****er up right now.

They should be looking at a couple of veteran depth forwards:

Winnik
Stalberg
White
Chiasson


Theoretically, if Brian Campbell would sign a 1 year deal for the same amount he signed for in Chicago last year, the Rangers could buy out Staal, sign Campbell and save $$ this season. The guy is a shot suppression machine

Stalberg just signed a 2-year deal in Switzerland.

 

[bernmeister]

Many are clamouring for a trade sending Holden plus something more to Trontah for Bozak to get an amicable stopgap C. Not a bad idea - however...
... Bozak has a cap hit of $4,2 M this year
Holden has a hit of $1,65 M
Difference is $2,55 M
We have $7,475 M left in space with Zib left to sign
Lets say we give Zib $5,4 M
2 M in space
800 k to operate team
1,2 M in space
So we either need to have Toronto retain ~1,35 M on Bozak (will cost us dearly as we are dealing with Lou), move more player(s) or use a 2nd buyout Marc Staal if this were to come to fruition.
I do not see it...

Tyler Johnson signs 7 years 5 million AAV.

I think this helps us more than it does Zib. Johnson's career ppg is .69 with a career high 77 points whereas Zibanejad is closer to .56 with a career high of 51 points. Johnson is two years older than Zib and they had nearly identical seasons in regards to ppg.

I would be ecstatic if we could sign Mika to a similar type of deal. 7 x 5-5.5 would be a huge success for Gorton.

Wait a minute, people want to hand out a seven year contract right after Stepan's six year contract was lousy after two years and he was moved? No thanks.

If I was Mika, I wouldn't touch the Johnson contract. Johnson is destined to be the 2nd line center. Zibanajad is being counted on to be number one here.

I'm OK in the neighborhood of the Brassard model ($5MM X 5) or the Kreider contract ($4.6MM X 4) I'll pass on longer term and take my chances.

Zib already eclipsed Stepan AINEC imo

max term = 8 yrs? anything from 4.75 to 5.25, prob higher, prob depending on how structured, is my call

I want Hayes to magically turn it around and kill it as our 2C.
Solely to watch MH's head explode.

 

[bernmeister]

also remember Fast LTIR is temp
at some pt he goes back on the payroll vs cap

can move Nash, but...
gotta be careful w/cap

 

[RGY]

Stalberg wouldve been nice on the 4th line with Grabner

 

[Revel]

Stalberg wouldve been nice on the 4th line with Grabner

Imagine Grabner-Nieves-Stalberg. Would be the all-around fastest line in the league.

 

[RGY]

So who is still thinking he gets $3 million?

$1.5-$2 million with bonus incentives if he reaches 45 points and plays in 65+ games

 

[LORDE]

Been in Jamaica for a week... anything I missed or kinda status quo after the Kirk signing?

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

So who is still thinking he gets $3 million?

$1.5-$2 million with bonus incentives if he reaches 45 points and plays in 65+ games

I mean that's just that echl team trying to get some publicity and means nothing.

 

[RGY]

I mean that's just that echl team trying to get some publicity and means nothing.

It doesnt seem like he is getting any interest. I would say its not crazy to see him except a deal with an AAV of $2 million with bonuses to rollover

 

[NickyFotiu]

Imagine Grabner-Nieves-Stalberg. Would be the all-around fastest line in the league.

I would have liked Stalberg back on our 4th line but I think Grabner made an extremely strong case to be on our 3rd line last season.

Here are Nicky Fotiu's hopes for 7/11/17

I would like Zibs on a 4-5 year deal but no longer than 5 years
I would like to have a nice lunch
I would like to trade for Conor McDavid

I will be satisfied with 2 out of 3.

 

[Doctor King Schultz]

It doesnt seem like he is getting any interest. I would say its not crazy to see him except a deal with an AAV of $2 million with bonuses to rollover

I don't see him playing in the minors. Hopefully an NHL team gives him a shot

 

[silverfish]

Jagr can't get an offer, but Nate Thompson gets two years and a modified NTC from Ottawa

 

[Revel]

I would have liked Stalberg back on our 4th line but I think Grabner made an extremely strong case to be on our 3rd line last season.

Here are Nicky Fotiu's hopes for 7/11/17

I would like Zibs on a 4-5 year deal but no longer than 5 years
I would like to have a nice lunch
I would like to trade for Conor McDavid

I will be satisfied with 2 out of 3.

I completely agree on Grabner. 4th liners don't score 27 goals. I think if Nash gets played a bunch on right wing, Grabs is gauranteed to get plenty of 3rd line minutes. But if Nash stays on LW...I think AV may give Vesey the Third line time and leave Grabs wallowing on the 4th line.

I have a hunch you'll be satisfied and get 2 out of your 3.

- I think Kreids set the example for how the Rangers will deal with Ziba. Ziba may get a little better treatment because he's a Center, and will have increased responsibility. He'll get 5 years instead of Kreids' 4....and he'll get around 5 mil instead of Kreids' 4.625.

- I assume you know where to grab a killer sandwich.

 

[NickyFotiu]

I completely agree on Grabner. 4th liners don't score 27 goals. I think if Nash gets played a bunch on right wing, Grabs is gauranteed to get plenty of 3rd line minutes. But if Nash stays on LW...I think AV may give Vesey the Third line time and leave Grabs wallowing on the 4th line.

I have a hunch you'll be satisfied and get 2 out of your 3.

- I think Kreids set the example for how the Rangers will deal with Ziba. Ziba may get a little better treatment because he's a Center, and will have increased responsibility. He'll get 5 years instead of Kreids' 4....and he'll get around 5 mil instead of Kreids' 4.625.

- I assume you know where to grab a killer sandwich.

Nicky Fotiu likes the way you think. Nicky Fotiu knows it is still early but he thinks you are now the clear favorite to win most valuable poster for July!

 

[Revel]

Nicky Fotiu likes the way you think. Nicky Fotiu knows it is still early but he thinks you are now the clear favorite to win most valuable poster for July!

Why are you referring to yourself in the 3rd person? lol

 

[RGY]

Just my opinion, but I think once the Rangers figure out what Zibanejad will sign for you will see them sign one of Jagr/Vanek.

 

[THE BIG WHISTLE]

I think we are done with moves for this offseason except for Holden being moved in preseason.

KZB
Zucc-Hayes-Nash
Miller-L.A-Grabner
Fast-DD-Jensen/Pimp

Mcd-Shatty
Skjei-Smith
Staal-DA
BearGloves

Hank
Pavs

And DD can swap with Andersson if he can't handle 3C but i think he'll surpise us all.

 

[Cassano]

Jagr can't get an offer, but Nate Thompson gets two years and a modified NTC from Ottawa

Disgusting.

 

[FJB]

Jagr probably wants too much. He's a machine but he's still old. $1.5m or GTFO.

 

[LeetchisGod]

Jagr probably wants too much. He's a machine but he's still old. $1.5m or GTFO.

Jagr is useless for a playoff team. He runs out of gas. His playoff stats in recent years are ugly.

 

[aufheben]

Having Jagr back would be so strange. Not in a bad way. He was like 35 last time.

 

[Cassano]

Jagr probably wants too much. He's a machine but he's still old. $1.5m or GTFO.

Sure he's old, but anyone who plays on the same line as him gets their production increased tenfold.

He's much better than Marleau who got 3 years at a ridiculous cap hit.

 

[McD37]

Jagr got offers. Person close to him said in the Czech media that those offers were kind of insulting. Probably in 1-2 million range. Look what Thornton and Marleau got... and I understand Jagr.

 

[SA16]

I always like to make conclusions based on 6 games of data over a five year time period to conclude Jagr is useless in the playoffs. If you want to say it's 28 games over 6 years without a goal sure but if you really think games 6 years ago are relevant...