Speculation: Roster Building Thread - Off-season Part I
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bleedblue94
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How is that insane? Paul was an absolute fantastic player in the playoffs, sergachev is completely ready for a top 4 spot, and the Paul contract is far from insane. He's a good player, they gave term, he gave a lower aav. I have no doubt he could've signed for 4+ on the open market.
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Well probably because you stated "in the playoffs" indicating you think giving a player a 7 year deal for a reasonable amount of money is a wise decision based on 23 games. He didn't give a lower AAV. Do you seriously believe he was getting 4M+ on a shorter deal? I don't think there has been a single forward in cap era history that has gotten that much with that poor of a history of offense. I thought Tampa is also supposed to get a no-state tax discount? Somehow he got fair value on huge term in a tax advantageous area. Maybe Bryan Bickell which was a horrible deal.
Nick Paul's playoff performance may be the most overrated thing ever.
Its like people remember g7 vs Toronto and attach that to the rest of the run. Like he was certainly good for his role, but he wasn't anything earth shattering.
Its like people remember g7 vs Toronto and attach that to the rest of the run. Like he was certainly good for his role, but he wasn't anything earth shattering.
EdJovanovski
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That g7 kept the Leafs pathetic losing streak alive so he deserves all the praise in the world imo
Crease
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I like Drury because he likes the same players I do.
DanielBrassard
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To me he proved that he's a very nice bottom 6 role player, who can play playoff hockey. Definitely a nice piece for any team but not a world beater by any stretch.
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SA16
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He said they're not so they're paying Myers/Paul 1M less than they were paying McDonagh.
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Thirty One
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Yes, GMs will always be more interested in improving their team than hurting another one.
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until they pull a random player out of their ass that plays at a high level
Not a question of balls but he is smart enough not to trade a 50 goal scorer who most likely will be or should be captain of this team. These trade Kreider posts are even dumber than the ones you all were posting same time last year. If he continues playing at a high level, even scoring 35-40 goals his contract is a bargain. No way he can't keep this up for 3/4 more years. Guy is in great shape and 31 is not old.
Hopefully some of you have the balls to stop posting this BS.
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JimmyG89
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Tampa is going to clear out that Seabrook deal next. There are teams that need to hit the floor that won't with their current players getting new deals. Might be the first time in a while they'll actually accrue cap space for the deadline.
Anaheim is one team like that. Seabrook's deal would expire right when they have almost all their money off the books. They also are looking at dealing John Gibson.
The other familiar faces will be around. Arizona and Buffalo. Teams keep helping Tampa and not getting much out of it. This Tampa window won't close until Hedman completely falls off
Anaheim is one team like that. Seabrook's deal would expire right when they have almost all their money off the books. They also are looking at dealing John Gibson.
The other familiar faces will be around. Arizona and Buffalo. Teams keep helping Tampa and not getting much out of it. This Tampa window won't close until Hedman completely falls off
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I remember MacTruck playng on the right with Suter in the olympics? Pretty sure it was the olympics.
Josi MacT would be a nice 25 minute type pairing
bleedblue94
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Come on do you really want to go through another argument, we went through this with chytil's face-off thing.
You're trying to discredit the way that he played throughout the playoffs, scoring the big goals that he scored, stepping up to fill a role that he's actually not suited for on the second line because of points injury, and he himself playing through two brutal injuries simply because he was stuck in Ottawa for so many years? There's plenty of examples of good players that were stuck in shitty teams and that once they actually got to a competent organization they broke out and became significant contributors. Paul is absolutely the same thing. The people in Ottawa are kicking themselves for not just resigning him prior to the trade bc I think at the time Paul wanted less than 3 per year, IN OTTAWA.
Just look at what goodrow got. Sure it's not the same amount of money, but goodrow didn't provide the same type of production in the same role despite the fact he was outstanding for them in their playoff runs. paul was a second liner for them for much of the playoffs.
And you're really going to suggest me that nobody would pay Paul $4 million a year right now? Every single team that has any aspirations for playoff success is looking for a player like Paul. How many of those guys are actually available this summer? I'd love to hear your answer on that one. The market is dictated by supply versus demand. There's absolute demand for the type of player that Paul is and the supply is almost non-existent. You're fooling yourself if you don't think that he could get $4 million on the open market. You think that Tampa paid what they did considering their tax benefits simply because they felt like it, or did they know that he was going to get something comparable on the open market from another team that didn't have the same tax benefits (ie 4+)? Any reasonable person knows it's the second option there. They knew he was going to get a big contract on the open market .
If I remember right I think you were one of the people arguing me last year that Coleman wasn't going to get nearly as big of a contract as he got, yet guess what, it happened. Coleman's isn't a good contract, but a team still gave it to him.
Also comparing nick Paul signing for 3.15m in 2022 to Bryan bickel signing for 4m in 2013 shows how you're grasping here.
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Maybe but we could say that for a handful of players. If CK matched Kuch. I really do not believe it was about individual players. They pinned us down even using their lesser lines and players. They played a heavier game than we did. They made sure to get the last check, slash, elbow or cross check 90% of the time. Its like the late 70's and early 80s when our Rangers would physically wear down teams like LA and STl in the playoffs.
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Oscar Lindberg
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Kreider will never score 50 again and his play 5v5 has fallen off a cliff. And it’s about managing the cap, you’ve got the 2nd highest paid player in the league at LW and the 1st overall pick at LW.
Somethings got to give at some point
This is what a lot of people aren’t talking about. I know the rangers were tired at the end there but they got completely shut down after game 2. I don’t know if it’s coaching or players.
We also are gonna need more speed, it was a issue during the season.
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