I think this is a tough call to make because Chytil has rarely ever centered talented wingers. When he centered Kreider/Kakko a couple of season ago that line was very good. The kid line was good last season. I think when he actually gets a chance to center talented wingers he does a good job. Just give him actual NHL players and I think he's a great third line center. He's mostly been stuck centering spare parts and some of which aren't even NHL caliber.
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Kane?
Bertuzzi?
IMO Kravtsov is most likely gone. Othmann will take 'his place' next season while Kravtsov will be used to get an upgrade for this season
Kravtsov + 2nd for Kane or Bertuzzi?
This is not hating on Kravtsov. I think he will eventually develop into a solid player, just doesn't fit the timeline anymore and he's a top asset
Bertuzzi?
IMO Kravtsov is most likely gone. Othmann will take 'his place' next season while Kravtsov will be used to get an upgrade for this season
Kravtsov + 2nd for Kane or Bertuzzi?
This is not hating on Kravtsov. I think he will eventually develop into a solid player, just doesn't fit the timeline anymore and he's a top asset
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I think Othmann might take his place on the playoff roster if Flint doesn't go far.
kinger8998
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Vitali Kravtsov is not a high end prospect. The rest of your post is logical and insightful.
The insanity of Kane on the "third line" because Kakko and Laf fit so well top 6 would be nutso. Chytil playing with Kane on the THIRD line.
F***ing imagine bahahah. Honestly, I'd agree than if Kakko and Laf fit THAT good that you're plugging Kane on the 3rd line, do you even bother getting him at that point? The fact we're asking do you even bother gettng a player of Kanes calibre if hes trying to force his way to 2 or 3 destinations and were one of them is nutso
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We found the top 6 and everyone here knew what it should have been. One of Laf and Kakko on each line on RW.
Now it is time to find out what the 3rd line should be around Chytil. Kravtsov is going to have to play on that line or not play. Is Blais going there when he comes back? Goodrow has looked solid tbh and I like him there for faceoffs.
As long as Carpenter isn't a scrub, we can do that. Even Vesey looked decent there last night, but he should be on the 4th. Give Blais a shot there tonight if he is good to go.
Now it is time to find out what the 3rd line should be around Chytil. Kravtsov is going to have to play on that line or not play. Is Blais going there when he comes back? Goodrow has looked solid tbh and I like him there for faceoffs.
As long as Carpenter isn't a scrub, we can do that. Even Vesey looked decent there last night, but he should be on the 4th. Give Blais a shot there tonight if he is good to go.
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Agreed. Othmann plays gritty, bigger than he is, heavier than he is. If we face Tampa in the finals he won't leave within 2 minutes the first time Hedman comes within 2 feet of him.
Kravtsov is useless other than as a trade chip to this years team and future NYR contention teams. Kakko Laf and Othmann make him obsolete, and personally, although skilled, I don't think he'll ever put it all together at this level.
He'll be back in the KHL like Yakupov was
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On the other hand
Brayden Schneider 19th
K’Andre Miller 22nd
Nils Lundquist 28th, traded for a probably better first plus.
Fil Chytil 21st
Brady Skjei 28th
Chris Kreisler 19th
so…
EdJovanovski
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Let it all out, you’ve been typing essays ranting about him like an unhinged maniac all day every day for a week now
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Right. If Kakko and Laf are working out how much of an upgrade would Kane even be? Why mess with the chemistry and burn the assets?
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That is most certainly a possibility...
Kreider Zibs Kakko
Panarin Tro Lafreniere
Othmann Chytil Bertuzzi
that's a beastly top9 going into the playoffs.
Now you know what it feels like lol.
EdJovanovski
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Man I am a very optimistic person I praise Kravtsov but I do NOT bash Kakko like you’re saying lol. I’ve made a few memes. I don’t attack the guy, there are many who straight up attack and go overboard when it comes to bashing Krav (saying he should be shipped off to war etc)
I mean with the over the top praise for Krav.
It's literally the inverse of what you've been doing. I know that you're purposefully over the top with it and sometimes its hilarious but Im sure other people get tired of it.
Is Kane playing on the Rangers first PP unit? No.
Chris Kreider spoke to Larry Brooks about the righty vs lefty on the PP with Trocheck replacing Strome.
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The Rangers are changing their PP set up after the first five months of the season to accommodate Kane?
Where will Kane play? Zibanejad is lined up on the left side and Panarin is lined up on the right side. Kreider is the net front presence. Fox is at the point. The Rangers want a righty playing the bumper. Kane is a lefty.
The power play setup works. Everyone knows what the Rangers are trying to do. The Rangers find a way to execute their PP.
Lafreniere can play on the right side. Darryl Sutter moved Tkachuk to RW from LW last season. Sutter said Tkachuk could play the right side because he is really good on the boards. He make the play on the boards to make the next play.
Lafreniere scored 19 goals last season and 10 goals were scored from the right side of the ice. He can make the plays on the boards and make the next play. He made big plays in the playoffs from the right side of the ice. His defensive play isn't an issue. You can't say that about Kane who needs a compass in his own zone.
The biggest adjustment to playing on the right side is coming out of the defensive zone. Once these guys are in the offensive zone, they all move around. Nobody stays on one side of the ice.
The Rangers 2nd power play unit with the Kid line will get their opportunities if they can receive 40-50 seconds on the PP. Jones is nice fit with them.
Chris Kreider spoke to Larry Brooks about the righty vs lefty on the PP with Trocheck replacing Strome.
Zac Jones’ power play specialty may not be enough to overcome Rangers impediments
The question becomes whether Jones has enough value at even-strength to include him on the roster, let alone pencil him in as a third pair defenseman.
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The Rangers are changing their PP set up after the first five months of the season to accommodate Kane?
Where will Kane play? Zibanejad is lined up on the left side and Panarin is lined up on the right side. Kreider is the net front presence. Fox is at the point. The Rangers want a righty playing the bumper. Kane is a lefty.
The power play setup works. Everyone knows what the Rangers are trying to do. The Rangers find a way to execute their PP.
Lafreniere can play on the right side. Darryl Sutter moved Tkachuk to RW from LW last season. Sutter said Tkachuk could play the right side because he is really good on the boards. He make the play on the boards to make the next play.
Lafreniere scored 19 goals last season and 10 goals were scored from the right side of the ice. He can make the plays on the boards and make the next play. He made big plays in the playoffs from the right side of the ice. His defensive play isn't an issue. You can't say that about Kane who needs a compass in his own zone.
The biggest adjustment to playing on the right side is coming out of the defensive zone. Once these guys are in the offensive zone, they all move around. Nobody stays on one side of the ice.
The Rangers 2nd power play unit with the Kid line will get their opportunities if they can receive 40-50 seconds on the PP. Jones is nice fit with them.
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Over the top negativity is way worse than over the top positivity man lol. And I make quality memes, puns, etc this guy is just going on unhinged rants calling him a baby and saying he’s the next Yakupov
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Is Kane playing on the Rangers first PP unit? No.
Chris Kreider spoke to Larry Brooks about the righty vs lefty on the PP with Trocheck replacing Strome.
Zac Jones’ power play specialty may not be enough to overcome Rangers impediments
The question becomes whether Jones has enough value at even-strength to include him on the roster, let alone pencil him in as a third pair defenseman.
The Rangers are changing their PP set up after the first five months of the season to accommodate Kane?
Where will Kane play? Zibanejad is lined up on the left side and Panarin is lined up on the right side. Kreider is the net front presence. Fox is at the point. The Rangers want a righty playing the bumper. Kane is a lefty.
The power play setup works. Everyone knows what the Rangers are trying to do. The Rangers find a way to execute their PP.
Lafreniere can play on the right side. Darryl Sutter moved Tkachuk to RW from LW last season. Sutter said Tkachuk could play the right side because he is really good on the boards. He make the play on the boards to make the next play.
Lafreniere scored 19 goals last season and 10 goals were scored from the right side of the ice. He can make the plays on the boards and make the next play. He made big plays in the playoffs from the right side of the ice. His defensive play isn't an issue. You can't say that about Kane who needs a compass in his own zone.
The biggest adjustment to playing on the right side is coming out of the defensive zone. Once these guys are in the offensive zone, they all move around. Nobody stays on one side of the ice.
The Rangers 2nd power play unit with the Kid line will get their opportunities if they can receive 40-50 seconds on the PP. Jones is nice fit with them.
We aren't getting Kane this season.
Salary too expensive. No cap room. Not trading a first for him. Kids (hopefully) developing too quickly.
Move on.
If Kane wants to come in free agency for a cheap 1 year deal after the season I welcome it. Othmann can cook in the minors one more year, this time in the AHL.
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What? Stating that a good number of late first picks pan out well, when someone points out some are busts, is a stupid argument? Great point. Youve really turned me around here. Hahahaha.
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The worse the pick is the less chance of success. Not exactly rocket science but the distribution definitely tells that story, especially for higher end players. Not only that buys it’s a strategy dependent on teams picking in front of you “messing up”. It’s a broken clock strategy. That’s like saying you shouldn’t trade 7th rounders because you might get Lundqvist out of it. Obviously there are successes and failures on both sides of the coin but once you get out of the lobby, the probability of hitting a home run pick decreases. Therefore It’s a stupid argument.
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Really? Comparing 7th round success to later first round success actually IS a stupid argument. 19 or 32 is 22 picks removed from top 10 at most. How removed is 7th round from the top 10? Do you have more than one example of reasonable 7th round success in the last 15 years? Or even one since Hank was farther back than that?
I gave six examples in the last 13 years and you can add Korpikoski to that to, as a #19 pick. So 7 times in 13 years we hit on 19th or later. Thats “broken clock”? Come on. Miller, Chytil, Nils and Schneider in just the last few years. Yeah. “Broken clock.” AND I didn’t even say a 19th on was as valuable as a top 10 or as likely to hit, just that they were not as throwaway as was being implied by cherry picking failures.
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I know people want to run reaves out of here at every turn, but I think it says a lot about the room and how he is viewed with this TEAM that even in a 7-3 win where other guys have big offensive games trouba decided to give the hat to reaves even though he played less than 7 mins. The guy brings a swagger with him that is infectious. He isn't an every day player but he is a big part of this TEAM.
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I can’t help but roll my eyes at the just laughable thought of inserting 19 year old Othmann into the lineup going into the playoffs lol
I mean what planet are we living on where anyone thinks that will happen
I mean what planet are we living on where anyone thinks that will happen
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