Speculation: Roster Building Thread LIV: Free Agency Hasn't Even Started

[GeorgeKaplan]

Got it. Thanks.

So, at this point, they will not be buying out Smith, unless Buch takes them to arbitration. 26 more hours to determine whether they'll be buying out Staal or Shattenkirk (or Hank or Zibanejad, not that we expect it for either of them).

The team can also file for arbitration

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Gorton likely waiting for the dominoes to fall on Panarin/Kreider/etc.

Once those fall, then he should be able to get to the second buyout window and make a move there if needed.

The team can also file for arbitration

Buyouts Outside of the Regular Period

Clubs whom have 1 or more arbitration filings may be permitted to perform a buyout outside of the regular window. This gives teams another opportunity to become cap compliant following an arbitration case.

Clubs are permitted to perform a buyout outside the regular period during the 48 hour period beginning on the third day after the final of [CBA 13(c)ii]:

1. Settlement of the Club's final arbitration case, or
2. Receipt of the Club's last arbitration award

Requirements:

1. A buyout can only be performed on a player who was on the clubs reserve list at 3:00pm on the most recent trade deadline
2. The player must have a cap hit of at least $3,455,438 for the 2019 offseason

There is an exception to this buyout period (CBA Reference: Section 11.18; 12.3) if the arbitation was Club-elected (as opposed to player-elected) and the player did not receive a qualifying offer. In this case, a minimum of two arbitration cases are necessary to trigger the buy-out period outside the regular window.

Buyout FAQ - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

The Rangers have three players eligible for arbitration: Trouba, Buchnevich, and Lettieri, all of whom received QOs. I suppose you could therefore finagle the second window by purposefully taking Buchnevich or Lettieri to arbitration (and then settling in advance). Don't think you want to mess around with doing it with Trouba.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

I thought this. It's wrong. Ennis and Mason were both placed on waivers on June 30 last year and then bought out.

Aha! So I was right as regards potentially having more info tomorrow by noon (though I was wrong regarding the date the window closes).

 

[Leetch3]

Gorton likely waiting for the dominoes to fall on Panarin/Kreider/etc.

Once those fall, then he should be able to get to the second buyout window and make a move there if needed.

we might not get the 2nd buyout window...only trouba and buchnevich are eligible for arbitration, and sounds like trouba will be extended soon so that leaves buch as the only shot

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

Buyout FAQ - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

The Rangers have three players eligible for arbitration: Trouba, Buchnevich, and Lettieri, all of whom received QOs. I suppose you could therefore finagle the second window by purposefully taking Buchnevich or Lettieri to arbitration (and then settling in advance). Don't think you want to mess around with doing it with Trouba.

They can file for arbitration and sign them before the hearing. The Rangers have done it a few times, I think Stepan’s deal got done a few hours before the hearing

 

[Leetch3]

Buying out Staal would make me very happy.

i think most would be happy with that but I think there is zero chance it happens

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

we might not get the 2nd buyout window...only trouba and buchnevich are eligible for arbitration, and sounds like trouba will be extended soon so that leaves buch as the only shot

Lettieri.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

They can file for arbitration and sign them before the hearing. The Rangers have done it a few times, I think Stepan’s deal got done a few hours before the hearing

I did mention that likelihood (in parentheses).

 

[Thirty One]

The team can also file for arbitration

Doesn't open this window, though.

However, in the event that a Club has only one salary arbitration hearing pursuant to Section 12.3(a) in a given League Year, such Club shall not be entitled to exercise such an Ordinary Course Buy-Out outside the regular period.

12.3 is club-elected arbitration

 

[NernieBichols]

Buyout window closing tomorrow at noon makes me think Gorton will have panarin’s answer before then. But that doesn’t mean we’ll hear about it. More likely a buyout announcement will be the tip off

 

[NernieBichols]

So am I really the only one checking Webster’s post history from time to time. I think he has a second alas zucc36, it’s more toned down though

 

[Leetch3]

So am I really the only one checking Webster’s post history from time to time. I think he has a second alas zucc36, it’s more toned down though

the rest of us would like to forget he ever existed so if you stopped bringing him up that would be swell

 

[Thirty One]

So am I really the only one checking Webster’s post history from time to time. I think he has a second alas zucc36, it’s more toned down though

I don't think he has the ability to tone it down. He is still on the Stars board too, up to his antics and hijinx.

 

[NernieBichols]

the rest of us would like to forget he ever existed so if you stopped bringing him up that would be swell

I can’t make promises

 

[Maximus]

Reading thru all the tea leaves, I'm getting a little antsy for Monday to come already....check that VERY antsy.

It really is pretty simple is Panarin a Ranger July 1st or not?

If not, do we simply sit tight maybe make a minor move here and there and just let the kids come back from summer vacation and we play with what we got?

Odd to say this but I don't see how we lose any way we go as it's a win/win either way. I'd be really excited and very much OK with Panarin coming here as I'm sure alot of y'all would as well.

And I'd be very much OK if we did nothing which I'm sure alot of y'all would be good with as well.

I don't think I've ever had this feeling ever in all my years....friggen bizarro world I tell ya....friggen bizzaro world.....lol

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Reading thru all the tea leaves, I'm getting a little antsy for Monday to come already....check that VERY antsy.

It really is pretty simple is Panarin a Ranger July 1st or not?

If not, do we simply sit tight maybe make a minor move here and there and just let the kids come back from summer vacation and we play with what we got?

Odd to say this but I don't see how we lose any way we go as it's a win/win either way. I'd be really excited and very much OK with Panarin coming here as I'm sure alot of y'all would as well.

And I'd be very much OK if we did nothing which I'm sure alot of y'all would be good with as well.

I don't think I've ever had this feeling ever in all my years....friggen bizarro world I tell ya....friggen bizzaro world.....lol

I don't necessarily think they do nothing. 1-2 year deals, a couple of trades, nothing overly crazy unless an opportunity to pounce on something pops up.

We don't even have to wait until Monday. If they don't waive someone tomorrow, chances are he isn't coming here (well, chances are that is the case anyway, but it would become more clear.)

 

[SA16]

I don't expect them to buy anyone out tomorrow regardless of whether or not they think Panarin is coming here.

 

[Maximus]

I don't necessarily think they do nothing. 1-2 year deals, a couple of trades, nothing overly crazy unless an opportunity to pounce on something pops up.

We don't even have to wait until Monday. If they don't waive someone tomorrow, chances are he isn't coming here (well, chances are that is the case anyway, but it would become more clear.)

Agreed that it would be more "clear" but I don't think they'll likely be buying anyone out.

That said, sounds like we are in same page....not nothing but nothing crazy either.

Now I will say this if Puljujarvi somehow truly comes into play and Gorton wants to give up a future chip or two, I'd be OK with that. But at this point, it's either Panarin or most likely a bit on the boring side for us which once again is more than OK.

One of the advantages of having the kinds of offseasons we've had the past two year especially this past one....we can sit back and see what develops withought forcing anything.

 

[Zibanejbread]

I really hope (and don't think we will) we don't buyout anyone tomorrow.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

I think we may actually get to a new thread (likely a GDT) for July 1.

Congrats, everyone!

 

[nevesis]

Kucherov makes 9.5M and is coming off back to back 100P seasons.

Kane makes 10.5M and is coming off a 100P season.

Gaudreau makes 6.75M and is coming off a 99P season.

MacKinnon makes 6.3M and is coming off a 99P season.

Crosby makes 8.7M and is coming off a 100P season.

Giroux makes 8.275M and is coming off a 85P season (102P last season).

Panarin @12M, or 11M is just straight up stupid. He's not a 12M player for starters. Despite the space we have now, we'll have to do a lot of maneuvering to fit him in. Some of you guys can't resist temptation. He's a very good player but he's not in the same tier as most of the guys you mentioned above. But, he'll get paid more than all of them.

Look at MacKinnon and Gaudreau's contracts. That's what you want. Top end production at a bargain. I understand not every team is that lucky, but the point still remains.

Does market inflation mean anything to you?

Panarin is absolutely worth $11.5 because the market determines his value as the cap continues to rise and years move forward this becomes the new norm. Not an overly complicated thing.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

From Larry's updated article today, seems they have feelers out for Boyle. He'd be a good locker room guy.

As far as trades: Gorton will pay the signing bonuses on July 1st and probably work after as he has done before.

 

[Thirty One]

Yeah, some more good tidbits in there too.

"Additionally, The Post has learned the Rangers have told agents calling on behalf of their respective clients that the team is not looking to sign support players to anything longer than two-year contracts. That essentially would eliminate candidates such as Joonas Donskoi and Garnet Hathaway.
The Rangers are, however, intrigued by the possibility of a reunion with 34-year-old Brian Boyle, who likely could be had on a one- or two-year deal. Boyle, who has emerged as one of the league’s most universally respected players and leaders since leaving the Blueshirts as a free agent following the run to the 2014 Cup final, likely would be amenable to a short-term deal. But he is expected to receive several offers, perhaps as well from the Devils, Islanders or both."

 

[Vitto79]

Kypreos thinks Zuc to Buffalo. Argh

 

[Thirty One]

Kypreos thinks Zuc to Buffalo. Argh

??? Heard his number one priority was contending.