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What does Bowman trade for first?

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TopShelfGloveSide said:
I heard the same argument when it came to Blackwood. If you watch both they are clearly just better goalies than Skinner. I think Gibson would look amazing behind this roster. Could be wrong but a gamble is needed.

It’s not a change for the sake of change. It’s change for the sake of improving on the worst goaltending duo in the league.
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Skinner wouldnt even be in the NHL if it wasnt for the Oilers blind faith in him. Hes the worst goalie in the league. He has no natural goaltending qualities. Hes a fraud.
 
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guymez said:
In Floridas system you just need to take up space...get in the way.
Jones is significantly bigger and more rangey than Montour. He is also capable of playing a lot more minutes compared to Montour.
Looks like an upgrade to me.
Florida upgrades...Oilers downgrade. Not a good trend.

Agreed about Chucky though.
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Florida takes away time and space and plays physical. The latter is not Jones' game.
 
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guymez said:
Hey...its a valid point.
Goalie (that some posters want) has pedestrian numbers and gets lit up and the excuse is...must be the defence...lol
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Gibson hasn’t had that many bad games this season. He’s allowed more than three goals just five teams so far. Skinner on the other hand…he’s done that eleven times over 40 starts/appearances this season, with four of those times in his last six starts.
 
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So chances are pretty good that Kane starts serious skating and practice soon. And likely we won't be able to trade him without serious retention.
So we keep him? And to make any changes we have to do hockey trades?
 
Ritchie Valens said:
Gibson hasn’t had that many bad games this season. He’s allowed more than three goals just five teams this season. Skinner on the other hand…he’s done that eleven times over 40 starts/appearances this season, with four of those times in his last six starts.
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Even Gibsons bad years are pretty close to Skinners 3 seasons. I wouldn’t mind running with Gibson-Skinner and keeping Pickard as the 3rd stringer.
 
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guymez said:
Gibson really hasnt been 'good' since the 2018/2019 season.

Sometimes change for the sake of change isnt necessarily a good thing.
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They’re gonna have to change their goaltending regardless if they want to make a deep run for the cup this playoffs. The Oilers cannot afford to run back this current tandem again.


f***ing bruuuuuuuuuutal.
 
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belair said:
$9 - $10m? Even optimistic projections for those extensions look like $9m + $2m. Add in Gibson at $6.4m and that's just shy of the whole $18m.

Yes, I understand that moving out players will be necessary to make the salary work, regardless of the direction the team chooses to go. But that also means you're opening up additional roster spots that need to be filled.

So, again, how are you markedly improving that roster if you're filling half of it with guys making league minimum?
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Well as of right now they haven't had Kane for the entire season and Brown + Henrique + Arvidsson + Skinner have essentially given them close to league minimum production for the price of 15M. I think that's probably a good place to start if you're looking for upgrades with moving cap out.
 
Messier11 said:
This is the reason Edmonton will not win for the foreseeable future. Not being a Debbie Downer. Edmonton lacks a true #1 goalie (Stu's mental breakdown last year is one of the things I am pointing to), we lack sizeable D that make you pay the price and have long sticks to break up plays, we are way too soft, and we lack the ability to play the game within the game (reference to what Florida just did with Tkachuckles).

I could get off Stu's back if Katz decided pay attention to this team and order Schwartzie gone. Continues to blow my noodle how this idiot savant has avoided natural selection. You know, Jeff Jackson had one job, make last year's nucleus better. Instead, he deconstructed it. I took the bait and was amazed. But now...I don't see them even making it past LA who now have a verifiable #1. This organization has wasted McDavid's entire career avoiding the acquisition of a true #1. Pathetic. And most of the teams that have won....true #1's.
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Edmonton probably has one of the weakest front offices in the league and lag far behind in other departments too. I mean, just compare the hockey minds surround Zito and then what the Oilers have. There is way too much of a country club attitude here when it comes to hockey ops
 
Paralyzer said:
I love how many here are whining we didn't get Seth Jones and make it sound like he's some Top 1-2 dman. He is NOT the same Dman since his Columbus days, and even then, he wasn't anywhere near as good as he should have been. Florida gave up a 1st and Spencer Knight. That'd be like us giving up Savoie and a 1st. Do you honestly want Jones for that? I definitely do not want him for that. Especially if he shits the bed for Florida, because they got him for 5 more years at 7M a year.

As for Kane, do you honestly think the Oilers are gonna come out and say "Oh yeah, Kane is out the season and we will use his LTIR for help and then we can bring Kane back in the playoffs"? Like are you all that dumb to think they'd say that? I personally think the media has ZERO f***ing clue what is going on, and they are pulling straws on what they THINK is happening. We have 6 days until trade deadline. Why don't we all take a couple of steps away from the edge, and see what we do, than make shit posts like "BoWmAn usEs OnLy WaiVer WiRe PiCkS! HE's toO StOoPiD tO MaKe a TrAde!".
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Where would we find the $7m to taked Jones anyway? The whole point of the trade was for Chicago to free up cap.
 
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Louis Cypher said:
Where would we find the $7m to taked Jones anyway? The whole point of the trade was for Chicago to free up cap.
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Kane LTIR plus moving on from Skinner or Arvy. Not hard

You have to find ways. Obv jones wouldn't have come here, but people here should have the right to be upset if we don't upgrade the team drastically after the Holloway fumble.
 
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McShogun99 said:
Even Gibsons bad years are pretty close to Skinners 3 seasons. I wouldn’t mind running with Gibson-Skinner and keeping Pickard as the 3rd stringer.
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This is the dilemma. If you’re going after Gibson, you need to have a guy who can step in and play because of his past.

Binnington stays pretty healthy. I’d be okay with sending Skinner in return as part of the package for him.

Edit: So the Oilers scout Anaheim last night and Gibson gets lit up by the Hawks. Of course he does.
 
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foshizzle said:
Edmonton probably has one of the weakest front offices in the league and lag far behind in other departments too. I mean, just compare the hockey minds surround Zito and then what the Oilers have. There is way too much of a country club attitude here when it comes to hockey ops
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Hiring a still working player agent whose main objective was to maximize his clients salary; a guy who has no experience in the workings of hockey club management, to be the head Boss indicates all you should need to know about this Clubs priorities.
Even Bill Zito spent 7 years working in Columbus' organization before jumping to GM of the panthers.
 
Mark Spector at his best
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Bryanbryoil said:
If they don't add anything of significance and we get bounced in the 1st round their jobs should be secure? Not in my eyes.

Montour is smaller but he plays big boy hockey and is a pita to play against. Jones for his size is pretty soft IMO.

I'd rather beat them with Chucky on the ice but oh well if he's out.
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It just is not in the DNA of the Oilers to act so quickly. Especially given that Jackson has such a close relationship with McDavid.
 
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