Speculation: Roster Building Thread LIV: Free Agency Hasn't Even Started

[HFsNumber1Heel]

Yeah, some more good tidbits in there too.

"Additionally, The Post has learned the Rangers have told agents calling on behalf of their respective clients that the team is not looking to sign support players to anything longer than two-year contracts. That essentially would eliminate candidates such as Joonas Donskoi and Garnet Hathaway.
The Rangers are, however, intrigued by the possibility of a reunion with 34-year-old Brian Boyle, who likely could be had on a one- or two-year deal. Boyle, who has emerged as one of the league’s most universally respected players and leaders since leaving the Blueshirts as a free agent following the run to the 2014 Cup final, likely would be amenable to a short-term deal. But he is expected to receive several offers, perhaps as well from the Devils, Islanders or both."

With that information, Bradon Tanev is also out of the equation. He's going to want one of those dumb deals Vancouver gave to Roussell and Beagle and the Islanders gave Komarov.

Leipsic on a one year deal. Filpulla. Markus Granlund. One of those guys and Boyle is fine. I'd also check in with Simmonds. He wants a three or four year deal but who would give him that?

 

[Vitto79]

??? Heard his number one priority was contending.

Well he could be wrong? Dallas still makes sense

 

[Avery16]

??? Heard his number one priority was contending.

Buffalo a lot more dangerous with Zucc

 

[Thirty One]

Well he could be wrong? Dallas still makes sense

Apparently Dreger reported there's interest too. Could see him trying to use Buffalo as leverage. I'm clearly motivated to believe that, though, as I'm still holding out hope for that Dallas pick.

 

[SA16]

I do not entirely understand why this team has any interest in Brian Boyle but it is good that, outside of Panarin, they won't be giving any of these guys anything more than two years.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

Buffalo with that goaltending doesn't do it for me.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

I do not entirely understand why this team has any interest in Brian Boyle but it is good that, outside of Panarin, they won't be giving any of these guys anything more than two years.

A big problem with the team last year was one goal leads. Boyle himself is a remedy to that.

It's also ok to have a few vets to show the kids the ropes.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

I do not entirely understand why this team has any interest in Brian Boyle but it is good that, outside of Panarin, they won't be giving any of these guys anything more than two years.

Because he’s the f***ing man, that’s why.

If we’re going for a “veteran leader” type, give me Boyle all day.

 

[Good Intentions]

Pending Panarin...we could have 16/17 former 1st rounders on the roster. Somewhat trivial - but seems like a lot. Anyone missing or do I have this right?

Kakko, Kravtsov, Lias, Chytil, Howden, Kreider, Lemieux, Namestnikov, Strome, Zibanejad, DeAngelo, Shattenkirk, Skjei, Smith, Staal, Trouba

 

[SA16]

A big problem with the team last year was one goal leads. Boyle himself is a remedy to that.

It's also ok to have a few vets to show the kids the ropes.

This isn't the Brian Boyle of five years ago anymore. His defensive stats as a Devil were not very good and I really don't think we need to bring in a big slow guy to play on the 4th line.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

This isn't the Brian Boyle of five years ago anymore. His defensive stats as a Devil were not very good and I really don't think we need to bring in a big slow guy to play on the 4th line.

What vets do you recommend then?

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Zibanejad
Kreider
Namestnikov
Strome
Vesey
Fast
Chytil
Andersson
Howden
Nieves
Lemieux
Buchnevich
Kakko
Kravtsov

That's fourteen. You've got to assume no Panarin, both Kakko and Kravtsov start in the AHL, and at least one guy moves (without bringing any NHL-level forwards back) in order for there to be room for Boyle.

Then, there's also the fact that we have 7 guys who either play center or the team wants to play center on that roster already. I can see bringing in a 2C, but a 4C doesn't make a lot of sense to me...

 

[Avery16]

Because he’s the ****ing man, that’s why.

If we’re going for a “veteran leader” type, give me Boyle all day.

 

[HonestGabe]

Zibanejad
Kreider
Namestnikov
Strome
Vesey
Fast
Chytil
Andersson
Howden
Nieves
Lemieux
Buchnevich
Kakko
Kravtsov

That's fourteen. You've got to assume no Panarin, both Kakko and Kravtsov start in the AHL, and at least one guy moves (without bringing any NHL-level forwards back) in order for there to be room for Boyle.

Then, there's also the fact that we have 7 guys who either play center or the team wants to play center on that roster already. I can see bringing in a 2C, but a 4C doesn't make a lot of sense to me...

I’d be willing to bet those 14 are not the same 14 we start the season with. Namestnikov, Vesey, Kreider are not locks to remain on this roster IMO

 

[FIRE DRURY]

Does market inflation mean anything to you?

Panarin is absolutely worth $11.5 because the market determines his value as the cap continues to rise and years move forward this becomes the new norm. Not an overly complicated thing.

Does History Repeats Itself mean anything to you?

Is there a written rule that suggests paying a player 14%-15% of our overall cap space due to market value mean that signing Panarin to that kind of contract will be a good investment for us?

**** no it doesn't. There's no guarantee it will. You think it's a good idea to drop that kind of monster salary on a position that has turned into one of our organizations strengths? And attach a full NMC to it making it an unmovable contract? I don't.

It will be different this time around!

Some of you guys never learn. You're impatient and you can't resist temptation. And then you wonder why we have 1 ****ing Cup in the last 79 years.

 

[Avery16]

What vets do you recommend then?

How about Names, Fast, Strome

 

[Thirty One]

Zibanejad
Kreider
Namestnikov
Strome
Vesey
Fast
Chytil
Andersson
Howden
Nieves
Lemieux
Buchnevich
Kakko
Kravtsov

That's fourteen. You've got to assume no Panarin, both Kakko and Kravtsov start in the AHL, and at least one guy moves (without bringing any NHL-level forwards back) in order for there to be room for Boyle.

Then, there's also the fact that we have 7 guys who either play center or the team wants to play center on that roster already. I can see bringing in a 2C, but a 4C doesn't make a lot of sense to me...

I think you can probably count on at least one of those guys being moved. Nieves shouldn't be obstructing anything. And you seem to be counting down to 12, unless those 12 are remarkably healthy, others will get significant minutes as well.

 

[broadwayblue]

Does History Repeats Itself mean anything to you?

Is there a written rule that suggests paying a player 14%-15% of our overall cap space due to market value mean that signing Panarin to that kind of contract will be a good investment for us?

**** no it doesn't. There's no guarantee it will. You think it's a good idea to drop that kind of monster salary on a position that has turned into one of our organizations strengths? And attach a full NMC to it making it an unmovable contract? I don't.

It will be different this time around!

Some of you guys never learn. You're impatient and you can't resist temptation. And then you wonder why we have 1 ****ing Cup in the last 79 years.

I don't think this is the same as the Gomez, Drury or Redden deals to name a few. But at the end of the day when you make a deal like this you know you typically have a 4 or 5 year window before the wheels fall off. If you are comfortable with that then go for it. Personally I'd pass. Not ready to put an expiration date on this team yet particularly while we are just getting going.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Does History Repeats Itself mean anything to you?

Is there a written rule that suggests paying a player 14%-15% of our overall cap space due to market value mean that signing Panarin to that kind of contract will be a good investment for us?

**** no it doesn't. There's no guarantee it will. You think it's a good idea to drop that kind of monster salary on a position that has turned into one of our organizations strengths? And attach a full NMC to it making it an unmovable contract? I don't.

It will be different this time around!

Some of you guys never learn. You're impatient and you can't resist temptation. And then you wonder why we have 1 ****ing Cup in the last 79 years.

The lack of patience here is so sad and maddening at the same time. People will never learn.

 

[Greg02]

Because he’s the ****ing man, that’s why.

If we’re going for a “veteran leader” type, give me Boyle all day.

Will you change your name back?

 

[SA16]

What vets do you recommend then?

None. We don't need to sign a Center. Zibanejad/Strome/Howden are 100% going to be three of them as they were last year. Then Chytil is C or W TBD. Andersson will hopefully make the team as another center. There's Nieves there too if needed. I would just look for good AHL players like Letestu/Holland/Kero/Street who can fill on the 4th line temporarily if one of the younger guys isn't ready and play as the 1C/2C in Hartford and help out down there.

We need a 1C/2C to force everyone else down a level. Not a 4C. There are no available 1C/2C so I would just ignore it until a later date and see if one of our younger guys can take a step to become one.

 

[broadwayblue]

The lack of patience here is so sad and maddening at the same time. People will never learn.

You have to live to learn.

 

[Leetch3]

I’d be willing to bet those 14 are not the same 14 we start the season with. Namestnikov, Vesey, Kreider are not locks to remain on this roster IMO

Good chance that those guys aren’t all year but I think the point remains that we don’t need to sign any veteran depth guys unless we first move guys out

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

How about Names, Fast, Strome

Strome will be a big part of this team. Love Fast and all but this is probably his last year here based on age/status and thanks to those dumb contracts I mentioned like Roussell/Beagle/Komarov.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Buying out Staal would make me very happy.

Guess you won't be happy. Staalsy is going nowhere.