Rumor: 2024-2025 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Talk | Part Deux

[Balthazar]

No dude it’s not. This team thrives and plays best when transitioning. We won a Stanley cup with compher playing 2c for a lot of games. It really wasn’t that much better especially if mitts can get going. He’s shown that he can be good. You can then get donato as your 3 centers dude

We also won the cup with Manson and Makar on the right side. Dude.

 

[NorthernAvsFan]

I would take Evans, but I’m hoping for a higher impact forward.

 

[Balthazar]

I would take Evans, but I’m hoping for a higher impact forward.

Ideally we replace Mitts with a better center but it doesn't seem like there's a realistic option out there. If we can't find any then keeping Mitts and getting a good 3C is the next best thing.

 

[Richard88]

If we’re trading for Jake Evans they should try to make Armia part of it as well. Those two are dogs together on the PK. Armia is a hard working, defensively responsible, right shot big body with sneaky good hands. He’s an upgrade on everybody we could play at 3RW (unless Landy is coming back). Not a whole lot of offense there but he definitely adds a little different dynamic that we don’t have. I think he’d be a wet dream for Bednar.

Adding Evans and Armia to the current roster without retention would put the roster at 24 players and $976k over the cap.

So you'd either need a couple hundred retained while sending one of Kivi/Vesey packing, or go without retention and move one of Wood or Kylington (though moving Kylington wouldn't be ideal as it would be a 15F/6D split). Easiest option would be to get retention on Evans and send Vesey out.

 

[dahrougem2]

No dude it’s not. This team thrives and plays best when transitioning. We won a Stanley cup with compher playing 2c for a lot of games. It really wasn’t that much better especially if mitts can get going. He’s shown that he can be good. You can then get donato as your 3 centers dude

He played 2C for five games in total and the Avs got outplayed by the Oilers in games 3/4 (not overwhelmingly) and then got blown out by Tampa Bay in game 3 of the SCF.

If the Avs had Compher at 2C that playoff run, there is no Stanley Cup.

Centers win championships.

 

[nammerus]

	GP	G	A	P	SOG
Nov	14	1	5	6	16
Dec	13	1	5	6	5
Jan	15	1	6	7	19
Feb	8	1	1	2	9

Mitts has been a slight tick above RyJo level:

	GP	G	A	P	SOG
Nov	14	5	0	5	19
Dec	15	2	3	5	13
Jan	12	0	3	3	7
Feb	12	2	3	5	16

And all it cost to obtain these studs was Byram and a 1st (to punt Ryjo to the moon). Can't really ask for a better use of assets.

 

[lionsDen]

The problem with Evan’s is this. He’s a rental and if they want to retain him is he in the 4 or 5(cap going up) it would probably mean rental and I’d preferto have some team controlRFA or contract.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

Toews (28) - Makar (23)
Girard (23) - Manson (30)
Byram (20) - E.Johnson (33)
J.Johnson (35)

 

[Richard88]

The noise around Evans is that Montreal will be fine keeping him unless they get their asking price, since they already have a lot of picks. A 1st seems a bit steep but if you can get Armia as well with retention then it might start to make sense.

Colton - Evans - Armia
Wood - Drury - O'Connor
Vesey/Kelly/Kivi

That's pretty solid depth.

 

[CobraAcesS]

Adding Evans and Armia to the current roster without retention would put the roster at 24 players and $976k over the cap.

So you'd either need a couple hundred retained while sending one of Kivi/Vesey packing, or go without retention and move one of Wood or Kylington (though moving Kylington wouldn't be ideal as it would be a 15F/6D split). Easiest option would be to get retention on Evans and send Vesey out.

You get retention on Armia, not Evans. His AAV is 3.4M.

 

[Balthazar]

The noise around Evans is that Montreal will be fine keeping him unless they get their asking price, since they already have a lot of picks. A 1st seems a bit steep but if you can get Armia as well with retention then it might start to make sense.

Colton - Evans - Armia
Wood - Drury - O'Connor
Vesey/Kelly/Kivi

That's pretty solid depth.

Two things to remember with Montreal: they might not sell (they are only 3 pts out of a playoff spot) and if they do, they have many pending UFA's but only one retention slot available. They can use it on Savard, Dvorak, Armia or Evans.

 

[CobraAcesS]

Toews (28) - Makar (23)
Girard (23) - Manson (30)
Byram (20) - E.Johnson (33)
J.Johnson (35)

More like

Toews (28) - Makar (23)
Byram (20) - Manson (30)
J.Johnson (35) - E.Johnson (33)
Girard (23) dead

 

[Richard88]

Lehkonen prior to joining the Avs was regularly around 30 points per season:

And had 12 points in 33 playoff games:

Evans for comparison:

Two things to remember with Montreal: they might not sell (they are only 3 pts out of a playoff spot) and if they do, they have many pending UFA's but only one retention slot available. They can use it on Savard, Dvorak, Armia or Evans.

Avs can add both Evans and Armia without retention. Just need to send Kylington packing and then swap one of Kivi/Vesey for a 7D making ~$800k.

 

[shadow1]

Lehkonen shot the absolute heck out of the puck in Montreal (multiple 150+ shot seasons). It was easier to see more offense was there.

Evans has 59 shots this year. Last year 81. On December 29th, he was shooting at 31.3%. His stats at the time: 36GP, 10G, 13A, 23P.

His stats since: 24GP, 2G, 3A, 5P. He'll be 29 this off-season. Yesterday I read people calling Lindgren (who turned 27 in Februrary) old.

If the Avs are looking for more production down the middle, Evans is not the answer.

 

[Richard88]

Further to my reply above, here's the roster with Evans and Armia (no retention), without Kylington. It's a 23 man roster $74k under the cap ceiling. You'd just need to swap one of Vesey/Kelly/Kiviranta for a 7D making no more than $74k more than whichever one of those three forwards you trade.

 

[CobraAcesS]

Lehkonen prior to joining the Avs was regularly around 30 points per season:

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And had 12 points in 33 playoff games:

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Evans for comparison:

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Avs can add both Evans and Armia without retention. Just need to send Kylington packing and then swap one of Kivi/Vesey for a 7D making ~$800k.

Evans is 3 years older, I think you bet that he is what he is.

I do trust Girard more now, but I do not trust Malinski. I still think they need a right shot like Gudas or something.

So I wouldn't want to eat the cap entirely with two depth forwards.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Stay the f*** away from Evans.

 

[CobraAcesS]

Further to my reply above, here's the roster with Evans and Armia (no retention), without Kylington. It's a 23 man roster $74k under the cap ceiling. You'd just need to swap one of Vesey/Kelly/Kiviranta for a 7D making no more than $74k more than whichever one of those three forwards you trade.

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Kylington is showing himself worthy of keeping though.

 

[Balthazar]

Evans is 3 years older, I think you bet that he is what he is.

I don't know about that. Evans has been stuck in a 4C role since day 1 in Montreal. He got 0 offensive opportunities, he's always been their PK guy who played with scrubs on the 4th line.

 

[lionsDen]

He played 2C for five games in total and the Avs got outplayed by the Oilers in games 3/4 (not overwhelmingly) and then got blown out by Tampa Bay in game 3 of the SCF.

If the Avs had Compher at 2C that playoff run, there is no Stanley Cup.

Centers win championships.

This is a pretty flawed team. Bednars system relies heavily on his defense and wings. Centers are an important piece but if you can’t play to you identity half the defense doesn’t your gonna sink just as quick. Really this is gonna be a hope and prayer they try and load up to this teams identity… part of that hope is hoping Mittelstadt can preform and regain last years form.

Compher got out played which helps illustrate my point to playing to the teams identity we won in spite of this…. 4-0 the oilers…

 

[EdAVSfan]

I don't know about that. Evans has been stuck in a 4C role since day 1 in Montreal. He got 0 offensive opportunities, he's always been their PK guy who played with scrubs on the 4th line.

I don’t know either. He’s played 11:30 - 13:20 even strength minutes per game for the last 4 seasons. He’s definitely in the 3C range for ice time.

 

[davalanche96]

Schenn is the best option for 2C. Playoffs experience

 

[MacKaRtin]

Schenn is the best option for 2C. Playoffs experience

If Schenn's contract were expiring at the end of this season, maybe there is a case to be made for that, but you have three more years at $6.5M tacked on. There's no way that's what we want

 

[flyfysher]

Schenn is the best option for 2C. Playoffs experience

It may not be doable for various reasons. Cost, in division rival, etc.

 

[Bender]

If we get him I'm confident that you'll change your opinion. Especially this year he's been a defensive monster for them.

If we trade for Evans I hope we re-up him. He wants 4-5 years we can give him that.

IMO Evans would be the next Lehky/Drouin for us. He'd come here from Montreal and become a new player.

It was reported this week that the Evans camp wants $4M per for 5 years from the Habs.

Maybe somebody gives him that as a UFA, I hope it's not us.

My take is that we have enough defensively responsible bottom six wingers that Bednar likes as long as our lineup is healthy. What we're missing is bottom 9 scoring, and if we're going to add a winger, I think it should be someone who would be able to chip in a few goals

Center depth / center upgrades are significantly more important though as is another D

If we can't get a #2C Mitts replacement then I want Bjorkstrand as that Top-9 winger.