Speculation: Roster Building Thread IV (2021 Offseason) - Bob Dylan turns 80 & "The times they are a changing!"

[leetch99]

If they hire Tocchet over Gallant..........

Maybe they are interviewing him because Gallant wants too much money and they use this as leverage ? Drury is the new guy and now wants to show Dolan how he can save him money . Anyways...just a guess and for all we know.....Gallant might actually be going elsewhere like Seattle . We will likely know soon enough . Myself...I loved Tocchet as a player but I have no idea on how he would be as a coach. If Dury is as smart as everybody thinks he is....he will figure it out . After 50 years of cheering for this club...nothing will shock me LOL....

 

[wafflepadsave]

I thought pre-wrist injury Chytil looked pretty solid at center. It looked like he took the next step. He was controlling the game play good on the forecheck and boards and he would always look to shot. He did blow at face offs though. But so did the whole center Corps. I don’t think it was an important aspect for Quinn to be good at them or practice them.
I think with more talented wings Chytil can still be a dangerous center. He needs a good swing man to get him the puck. He’s got a pretty good shot and he’ll use it from anywhere. I think he was trying to go 1 on1 too much but that could be because both linemates were under 21 and were having a rocky go of it as well.
When he came back and saw his minutes get cut I thing it kind of hurt his development. He didn’t get back to playing at a high level until the last 8-9 games of the year. I highly doubt they move him to wing now. Too much vested in him. I do think it’s a possibility that they include him in a package for a guy like Cirelli, who Tampa is going to have to move this offseason. I don’t see any way around it. Their cap tricks have come to an end. But don’t be surprised if the bolts stick him at 2C and give him a heavy dose of minutes and PP time and he flourishes there with the talented vet wingers they have

What about Stamkos?

 

[cwede]

I just don't understand why Gallant is treated like scotty bowman or quenville around here, the guy hasn't earned that level of love, but he is getting it around here.

many (me included) think he is best choice among the 'retreads'.
his success w Fla, with young future stars, and VGK, immediate results,
contribute to that

i would be ok with KK, or other qualified vetted NHL-first-timer, too

 

[GAGLine]

They should always be in on a good college player who goes that route, but I doubt he will want to sign with us since there doesnt look like there will be a starting goaltending spot opening anytime soon.

Kinda crazy he only played 15 games a season since he spilt time with the other goalies each year in the NCAA.

People said the same thing about Wall, and he still signed with us. Georgiev will be gone before long, so the backup spot will be open, and getting to work with Allaire is definitely a plus.

Hopefully Jones is in his ear, telling him to come here.

Another guy I'd have on our radar is Cale Morris. Very good career at Notre Dame, somehow only got an AHL deal.

 

[RGY]

I thought pre-wrist injury Chytil looked pretty solid at center. It looked like he took the next step. He was controlling the game play good on the forecheck and boards and he would always look to shot. He did blow at face offs though. But so did the whole center Corps. I don’t think it was an important aspect for Quinn to be good at them or practice them.
I think with more talented wings Chytil can still be a dangerous center. He needs a good swing man to get him the puck. He’s got a pretty good shot and he’ll use it from anywhere. I think he was trying to go 1 on1 too much but that could be because both linemates were under 21 and were having a rocky go of it as well.
When he came back and saw his minutes get cut I thing it kind of hurt his development. He didn’t get back to playing at a high level until the last 8-9 games of the year. I highly doubt they move him to wing now. Too much vested in him. I do think it’s a possibility that they include him in a package for a guy like Cirelli, who Tampa is going to have to move this offseason. I don’t see any way around it. Their cap tricks have come to an end. But don’t be surprised if the bolts stick him at 2C and give him a heavy dose of minutes and PP time and he flourishes there with the talented vet wingers they have

To the bolded..

1) I agree the whole center group was pretty awful on faceoffs. But that is in large part due to Strome and Chytil being inadequate centers. Both on the dot and defensively. Zib had a down year at 46% but he is normally breaking just about even at 49%-50%. Not great, but not awful.

2) Him needing a good swing man is exactly why he is more suited from the wing. He often likes to come streaking through the neutral zone and offensive zone either lined up with the circles or favoring the side boards. That is when he usually looks best. Ready to rip off a shot. He would be be better on the wing with a center who can dish him the puck while he is in motion with his legs going.

3) Why can’t they move him to wing at this point? He is 22-23. He isn’t 27-30. He can still be moved. It is much easier to move from center to wing anyway, less responsibility. There isn’t that much invested him at this point.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

What are you basing this on? Sure, the Rangers are a first class organ-eye-zation, but that job comes with a lot of scrutiny and a requirement to live in a high tax, super crowded, cold weather city with a demonstrably unstable owner.

NYers really believe that they live in the greatest city in the world and that everyone wishes they could be there.

Ask anyone in the league and they’ll tell you the Rangers are set up to have major success the next decade. There’s not a team in the league that’s in a better spot than this one, full stop

Whether or not the execute is a different story. But I have a hard time imagining there’s a more desirable job in the league right now, unstable owner or not

 

[wafflepadsave]

Any bets on who wins the lottery?
I’m going with Buffalo and Anaheim.

 

[jay from jersey]

To the bolded..

1) I agree the whole center group was pretty awful on faceoffs. But that is in large part due to Strome and Chytil being inadequate centers. Both on the dot and defensively. Zib had a down year at 46% but he is normally breaking just about even at 49%-50%. Not great, but not awful.

2) Him needing a good swing man is exactly why he is more suited from the wing. He often likes to come streaking through the neutral zone and offensive zone either lined up with the circles or favoring the side boards. That is when he usually looks best. Ready to rip off a shot. He would be be better on the wing with a center who can dish him the puck while he is in motion with his legs going.

3) Why can’t they move him to wing at this point? He is 22-23. He isn’t 27-30. He can still be moved. It is much easier to move from center to wing anyway, less responsibility. There isn’t that much invested him at this point.

To the bolded..

1) I agree the whole center group was pretty awful on faceoffs. But that is in large part due to Strome and Chytil being inadequate centers. Both on the dot and defensively. Zib had a down year at 46% but he is normally breaking just about even at 49%-50%. Not great, but not awful.

2) Him needing a good swing man is exactly why he is more suited from the wing. He often likes to come streaking through the neutral zone and offensive zone either lined up with the circles or favoring the side boards. That is when he usually looks best. Ready to rip off a shot. He would be be better on the wing with a center who can dish him the puck while he is in motion with his legs going.

3) Why can’t they move him to wing at this point? He is 22-23. He isn’t 27-30. He can still be moved. It is much easier to move from center to wing anyway, less responsibility. There isn’t that much invested him at this point.

It’s possible, I just think it’s unlikely after the 4 years they have invested with him in the NHL and Hartford at the position. If they had serious doubts it would have been easy enough to sign a bottom 6 place holder. I don’t think they want to go back on the progress he’s made. In the first third of the season he was the teams best center and it looked like he was ready to turn the corner pre-injury. This was his best year statistically with his lowest TOI and No time on special teams. I don’t know why they don’t give him so Pk/PP duties. I think he could manage and it would keep him more engaged, like you said keep his legs moving more. There are plenty of successful shoot first centers in the league. The key is to put them in the position to succeed with the best players that compliment each others styles.
I think with more time and more seasoned line mates Fil has what it takes. But I don’t know if the Front office wants to wait or wants an immediate upgrade. I bet teams will be asking for him back as a piece in a package though. His salary will be lowish for a while and if he pops and plays an entire season the way he did the first 18-20 games that’s pretty good risk for reward for whoever gets him.
He does need practice at the dot though. I wish the rangers would hire a face off guru/coach/ consultant like some other teams do. It’s one of the most important things to have when controlling the flow of the game

 

[RangersFan1994]

He's an unsigned RFA

Not many RFA usually goes lower than their previous salary. Still not worth the risk.

 

[Off Sides]

Good thing no team has looked for killer instinct before or else they may have already cornered the market in it.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Good thing no team has looked for killer instinct before or else they may have already cornered the market in it.

It's the GM equivalent of "keep moving our feet, get pucks deep"

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

I legitimately laughed out loud at this response to Leslie lol @Kovalev27

 

[LannyMcdonald]

I think they have maybe 10 guys under contract right now

For a total of about $110 million

 

[Synergy27]

Ask anyone in the league and they’ll tell you the Rangers are set up to have major success the next decade. There’s not a team in the league that’s in a better spot than this one, full stop

Whether or not the execute is a different story. But I have a hard time imagining there’s a more desirable job in the league right now, unstable owner or not

I’m not debating the team setup but to think that it’s a foregone conclusion that everyone available is champing at the bit to come to NYC is a bit optimistic for me. There are just as many reasons for a coach to NOT want to come here as there are for one to want to.

 

[zukeisgone]

Watching Danault extensively for the first time I am convinced take the easy way and sign him as a ufa. This move alone changes the whole lineup. He plays every situation and can FO....play the year and decide on strome and Mika

 

[BobMarleyNYR]

I prefer to go the UFA route on a 3rd Pair D, preferably if they can keep it to a 1 or 2 year deal. Oleksiak/Cole/Savard/Merrill all decent options. They seemingly missed the boat on Ekholm

Isn't Savard among the best this UFA season?

Cole was a guy that wasn't much until about three or four years ago and then started getting paid, while not still being all that good. 4.25 AAV and 32.

 

[rangers1314]

Watching Danault extensively for the first time I am convinced take the easy way and sign him as a ufa. This move alone changes the whole lineup. He plays every situation and can FO....play the year and decide on strome and Mika

If you’re signing Danault, you’re trading Strome.

You can’t have them both.

 

[n8]

Watching Danault extensively for the first time I am convinced take the easy way and sign him as a ufa. This move alone changes the whole lineup. He plays every situation and can FO....play the year and decide on strome and Mika

he's said repeated that he wants a big role. I just don't see him signing with us to be the 3rd line center. Again. he's going to want to go somewhere where he has the strong prospects of playing a top 6 role and getting regular ice time on the PP and such.

 

[jay from jersey]

Maybe they are interviewing him because Gallant wants too much money and they use this as leverage ? Drury is the new guy and now wants to show Dolan how he can save him money . Anyways...just a guess and for all we know.....Gallant might actually be going elsewhere like Seattle . We will likely know soon enough . Myself...I loved Tocchet as a player but I have no idea on how he would be as a coach. If Dury is as smart as everybody thinks he is....he will figure it out . After 50 years of cheering for this club...nothing will shock me LOL....

amen to that brother

 

[Kocur Dill]

he's said repeated that he wants a big role. I just don't see him signing with us to be the 3rd line center. Again. he's going to want to go somewhere where he has the strong prospects of playing a top 6 role and getting regular ice time on the PP and such.

And that is the full stop.

He reminds me of Pageau in that regard. Just because you throw money at him doesn't mean he'll magically produce more, albeit he has puck skill, it just doesn't translate and convincing him otherwise could prove a fatal move if we locked him in to term.

Excellent player who over values himself and his role. Pageau fits Trotz system so it works, I dont ever see us in a grind and muck system with the talent we have. Danault is more likely to be an underwhelming failure in NYR than to be a successful catalyst that ties the loose ends.

 

[Off Sides]

Danault is pretty good, he's a shutdown guy matched with two wings who are good fore-checkers and have talents of their own. That allows him to hang back lean defensive yet jump up it they win the puck.

I think as a center on that type of line he works very well. I don't think expecting him to be more than that is going to meet those expectations.

Much like Goodrow, Coleman, etc, the overall team allows certain players to excel. Not sure I see the fit on the Rangers for Danault as a 2nd line center, yet that is where his cap hit will be. Similarly for the other names often thrown out there.

To put it another way, Rooney, Blackwell on Tampa or some other playoff team are seen in a better light, and quite honestly those two fit on the Rangers at a super low cap hit and they still get overly criticized, even when they are already signed for next year. They are not going to solve the Rangers issues yet they are also not the problem, which is what these other guys if imported will be grouped with as well, just at a much higher cap hit

 

[huerter]

You need someone who thinks the game the way Panarin does.

 

[mas0764]

Sign Danault. Trade Buch for Lundell and sweetener. Trade Strome for grit and toughness.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

Killer instinct is what the Rangers added in 94 with MacTavish

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

I say we trade our talent for maniacs and beat the shit out of every team next year then restart the rebuild. Let’s send a message. Who’s with me?