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Speculation: Roster Building Thread IV (2021 Offseason) - Bob Dylan turns 80 & "The times they are a changing!"

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Oscar Lindberg said:
The Rangers job is the most desirable one in the league and will continue to be for some time, if Gallant goes elsewhere there’s a problem
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The Rangers have won 1 Cup in 80 years, and not everyone enjoys living in or around a major city. I wouldn’t read too much into it.
 
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Oscar Lindberg said:
The Rangers job is the most desirable one in the league and will continue to be for some time, if Gallant goes elsewhere there’s a problem
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If I was Gallant, the immediate firing of JD, Gorton and Quinn in the last 3 weeks would give me pause for sure. Dolan has a serious reputation for knee jerk reactions beyond just the Rangers as well.
 
NYR Viper said:
If I was Gallant, the immediate firing of JD, Gorton and Quinn in the last 3 weeks would give me pause for sure. Dolan has a serious reputation for knee jerk reactions beyond just the Rangers as well.
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I wonder if Drury is more like, this is your team/staff to design from the ground up. Make every decision on coaching and let's build from here. A clean slate is enticing.
 
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NYR Viper said:
If I was Gallant, the immediate firing of JD, Gorton and Quinn in the last 3 weeks would give me pause for sure. Dolan has a serious reputation for knee jerk reactions beyond just the Rangers as well.
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I mean the on ice product ( playing wise) got worse not better after we added more talent. Obviously it’s not all their fault that the talent was young and needed to be groomed, but there were missteps by those guys, Quinn in particularly. The team he coached was less prepared and played with less heart from his first season to his 3rd. A kid could see that, probably why Dolan recognizes it.
You can lose cause your not the better team.
You can lose because of youth and inexperience.
You can lose because the other teams goalie or star player steals the game.
What you can’t do is continually come out and play heartless robotic hockey with very little emotion. CONSTANTLY.
That’s the unacceptable part of it. It was so bad to the point of getting embarrassed by our rival multiple times and dirtbags like Wilson having their way with multi-million dollar long term assets that compounded the problem. There were some things to like, it wasn’t all bad. But there were multiple times this season where this team needed to sack up. They did the exact opposite. That’s the part that can’t be forgiven.
The face offs still bug me too, to no end. Vegas doesn’t have star studded centers, but they are beasts in the face off circle and they generate a ton of offensive and control the pace of the game on defense because of it. Do you know what a comfort it is to ice the puck knowing your most likely going to get the possession back? Not to mention the offensive zone chances and the PP. It just gives the team as whole so many more opportunities to do a lot of great things and there’s still people that swear up and down that face offs don’t matter. It’s a real pet peeve with me I guess.

Side Note-
Tocchet would be an abortion here. Gallant is the clear path. Tocchet is the guy you have to take when your top 3-4 guys say no
 
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jay from jersey said:
I mean the on ice product ( playing wise) got worse not better after we added more talent. Obviously it’s not all their fault that the talent was young and needed to be groomed, but there were missteps by those guys, Quinn in particularly. The team he coached was less prepared and played with less heart from his first season to his 3rd. A kid could see that, probably why Dolan recognizes it.
You can lose cause your not the better team.
You can lose because of youth and inexperience.
You can lose because the other teams goalie or star player steals the game.
What you can’t do is continually come out and play heartless robotic hockey with very little emotion. CONSTANTLY.
That’s the unacceptable part of it. It was so bad to the point of getting embarrassed by our rival multiple times and dirtbags like Wilson having their way with multi-million dollar long term assets that compounded the problem. They were some things to like, it wasn’t all bad. But there were multiple times this season where this team needed to sack up. They did the exact opposite. That’s the part that can’t be forgiven.
The face offs still but me too, to no end. Vegas doesn’t have star studded centers, but they are beasts in the face off circle and they generate a ton of offensive and control the pace of the game on defense because of it. Do you know what a comfort it is to ice the puck knowing your most likely going to get the possession back? It just gives the team as whole so many more opportunities to do a lot of great things and there’s still people that swear up and down that face offs don’t matter. It’s a real pet peeve with me I guess
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I was a Quinn defender the majority of the year due to the run of injuries/Panarin's leave of absence/Covid, but once he had the full compliment of players back at the end of the year, there was no reason for them to no show as much as they did.

The other issue was, this claim that the "rebuild was going well" from hockey media and a certain sect of fans, isnt actually true. Kakko & Laf were producing at historic lows for top 2 draft picks, Chytil was never given a real shot to play up in the lineup (after 4 years in the org) and Kravtstov couldnt get off the 4th line despite clearly providing a spark when he debuted.

Also, Brian Boyle should return to the organization, if for no other reason then to be a leader and teach these guys how to win faceoffs
 
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I just dont understand why Gallant is treated like scotty bowman or quenville around here, the guy hasnt earned that level of love, but he is getting it around here.
 
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Raspewtin said:
you say circumstance, i say concentrated effort to develop him as a center, of which chytil has given no reason to believe he doesn’t belong there (besides maybe his face offs)
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Concentrated effort because there have been really no other alternatives other than try to make Chytil work. He is going to be entering year 4 and he really has not improved as a Center. By no means is he a bad player. He has talent. But he has been garbage at the center position. He is terrible on faceoffs, like really terrible which basically forces him automatically to start mostly in the offensive zone. And then his defensive play is less than impressive. His coverage in his own end is lackluster and this playing against other teams bottom 6 often. He also tries to do too much with the puck and turns it over. Lots of turnovers at the offensive blueline. He just doesnt scream a strong hockey IQ.

Pretty concerning considering with DQ as coach he was “supposedly” being taught defense and responsible play...
 
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bleedblue94 said:
I just dont understand why Gallant is treated like scotty bowman or quenville around here, the guy hasnt earned that level of love, but he is getting it around here.
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I don't see it that way...it's more he's the best available candidate & a better option than the other names being mentioned.

Unless guys like Quennville & Brindamour become available, it's logical to want Gallant.
 
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bleedblue94 said:
I just dont understand why Gallant is treated like scotty bowman or quenville around here, the guy hasnt earned that level of love, but he is getting it around here.
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No one is treating him that way. He is just the best option available. He is the most desired. How should we act and speak about him? I am very confused by this take.
 
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bleedblue94 said:
I just dont understand why Gallant is treated like scotty bowman or quenville around here, the guy hasnt earned that level of love, but he is getting it around here.
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I can’t help but to feel the same. Gallant got a lot of credit for Vegas, that immediately became better after firing him. Gallant was also canned in Florida fairly quick. Vegas was/is a good team. Sure he did a great job, but it wasn’t like he was playing poker with his hands behind his back.

I do not have a good read on him. But facts are that a new coach must deliver. A big bark coach won’t work. The new guy must be able to establish what works, what this team can do and — especially — improve the team a lot in many areas. Our forecheck isn’t good at all. But neither is our transition game that is full of big gaffs.

But if we just bring in someone that will focus on making the team tougher and more physical, it will create other problems that we can’t handle.

Maybe Gallant is the right guy, I don’t know. But just being a one trick rally the forces guy won’t cut it.
 
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what do you think about Zadorov and Subban for Georgiev. Big physical LD that can play top 4 but will be a great 5.
 
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