What is the most you'd give up for Tage?

[SirloinUB]

You're perfectly entitled to your opinion. I'm at the point in the rebuild that I'm willing to deal as many draft picks as it takes to add the right 1-2 long term additions and maximize the next 5 years. (I don't see any picks from 2025 onward being good enough soon enough to be more valuable than getting actual NHL players.)

I don't hate the concept but the problem is future picks don't hold the same value. A first this year is worth more than a 1st next year and a lot more than a 1st 4 years from now. So you're giving up top assets which handcuffs you down the road (from making other trades, drafting cost controlled assets, executing an RFA signing, dumping a problem contract etc.) without getting appropriate value for them.

Think of it this way, If we were to trade Larkin (we wouldn't) would you want a picks 2, 3, and 4 years from now from an up and coming team that is looking promising? Or would you be more interested in a young NHL player + 1st + top prospect? I'd prefer package B and Im sure most other teams would too.

The concept of Time Value of Money is applicable to draft picks. A dollar today is worth more than a dollar 4 years from now. A pick this summer is worth more than a pick 4 years from now.

In theory I like your angle I just don't think it works in real life.

 

[AlwaysSunnyInDetroit]

Söderblom - Rasmussen - Thompson line?

soderblom - thompson - rantanen

 

[nbwingsfan]

Kasper is a no go. Danielson or MBN + protected 1st + salary going the other way + B level prospects. Yzerman likes to say he wont put the cart before the horse. I hope he stands true to it, Dont get jumpy going after a big splash before the team has accomplished anything.

For a player like Thompson on a great contract I would imagine Kasper would 100% be a go, and likely needed

 

[lilidk]

soderblom - thompson - rantanen

Hopefully one day they try Soderblom on the first line. See what's happened, maybe next season

 

[jkutswings]

I don't hate the concept but the problem is future picks don't hold the same value. A first this year is worth more than a 1st next year and a lot more than a 1st 4 years from now. So you're giving up top assets which handcuffs you down the road (from making other trades, drafting cost controlled assets, executing an RFA signing, dumping a problem contract etc.) without getting appropriate value for them.

Think of it this way, If we were to trade Larkin (we wouldn't) would you want a picks 2, 3, and 4 years from now from an up and coming team that is looking promising? Or would you be more interested in a young NHL player + 1st + top prospect? I'd prefer package B and Im sure most other teams would too.

The concept of Time Value of Money is applicable to draft picks. A dollar today is worth more than a dollar 4 years from now. A pick this summer is worth more than a pick 4 years from now.

In theory I like your angle I just don't think it works in real life.

Fair. And I'm not expecting to acquire McDavid just by tossing enough picks at Edmonton, for example. I was just underscoring the point that I have absolutely zero appetite for hoarding picks any longer. So don't make a move for the sake of it, but if the right player comes along, another team can have all the picks they want to make it happen.

 

[Euro Twins]

You're perfectly entitled to your opinion. I'm at the point in the rebuild that I'm willing to deal as many draft picks as it takes to add the right 1-2 long term additions and maximize the next 5 years. (I don't see any picks from 2025 onward being good enough soon enough to be more valuable than getting actual NHL players.)


Probably accurate.

I respect that. But think of it this way. What happens if tage doesn't work here, or he gets injured. What happens if we go down a top player.

We can't give away all of our non prospect/roster player capital for the next 4 years for 1 player.

There's a very good reason you never see that kind of trade.

Now if Yzerman had flipped a couple guys like Copp and chiarot and then dealt that return in a package to get 1 or 2 extra first round picks and we used those to get tage sure.

But to give away our 2025, 2026, 2027, 2028 first round picks and put all our playoff hopes on one guy.....


No

 

[norrisnick]

I respect that. But think of it this way. What happens if tage doesn't work here, or he gets injured. What happens if we go down a top player.

We can't give away all of our non prospect/roster player capital for the next 4 years for 1 player.

There's a very good reason you never see that kind of trade.

Now if Yzerman had flipped a couple guys like Copp and chiarot and then dealt that return in a package to get 1 or 2 extra first round picks and we used those to get tage sure.

But to give away our 2025, 2026, 2027, 2028 first round picks and put all our playoff hopes on one guy.....


No

We still have a '21, two '23, and a '24 first round pick to play with.

 

[Euro Twins]

We still have a '21, two '23, and a '24 first round pick to play with.

I literally said none prospect/roster players assets.

However you want to go down that route? Mbn has low trade value currently unless he turns it on next season. Danielson is looking like a 3rd line center. Kasper is not available for trade, asp is not available for trade. Edvinsson is basically untouchable.

So who do you expect to leverage mbn and Danielson into for a trade?

I get wanting tage but you can't trade away the franchise future for 1 player.

Now if you trade 2 firsts and Kasper that would be much more palatable.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Could be Edvinsson +.
6'6" 27 years old , point per game c/w. Could be perfect on our first line. Excellent contract.