Speculation: Roster Building Thread II (2022-23): The Puck is Prepared to be Mounted

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Why would the Ducks do it?
no clue unless they wanted to pull a Rangers and shoot for the playoffs in 2024 earlier than expected. Considering we're an example of what not to do right now it just won't ever happen unless Zegras comes out of the blue this summer and requests a trade to take his talents to his hometown team.

another daydream
 
Are you really going to chalk that up to Ryan Reaves presence? What happened this year then? His aura diminished enough to where Igor wasn't putting up a .935 and the Rangers couldn't figure out how to score in a whorehouse? Reaves has nothing to do with it. The Rangers simply aren't good enough and last year they weren't good either but had fortune on their side, this season they don't.
I don't know but losing glue guys doesn't help. The moping has reached new highs

We had a swagger/magic last season... even if it was just the PP and Shesty, it was there.

We still suck but now our PP sucks and Shesty is human. There's a mental aspect to it. It's not the entire issue but it's definitely not helping the situation.
 
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The only way Panarin and Zegras will be involved in anything together is when Panarin is playing LW for Zegras........on the Ducks.
 
I’m also rewatching the murder from last night on tv, let’s not forget Panarin tries to make a cute play, loses the puck and it’s the reason Trouba takes the penalty they score on: Panarin is the cancer #confirmed

Im sorry for your eyes
 
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Strome had his weaknesses but if you can generate offense and get goals it makes up for it. The real issue was that we had a similar offensively minded center behind him so there wasn't much variability there. If we had a couple centers behind him that were good defensively and could take a face-off it wouldn't be much of a big deal.

I was a fan of the Trocheck signing, I think he's been plenty fine. It's unfortunate that Panarin hasn't really clicked with him. That being said, I've also held the opinion that for years now we should've been promoting the young players, including Chytil. We had a good idea that Strome wasnt going to have a future here. That 20-21 season where Chytil paced for +40 points getting 13 minutes a night is the sort of thing that would suggest a larger role could've been given. Unfortunately our bottom 6 was a mess last year and people really soured on him during the season. On pace for +40 points again getting 14 minutes a night, that's really good production for that sort of usage. You look at a player like Sam Bennett, the guy spent 5.5 years playing behind Monahan, Backlund and Lindholm... not much opportunity there. Don't think there's any argument now that he's a top 6 talent, the skill was always there.

Now we're in a tricky spot where our paper #2 doesn't gel with our 11 million dollar winger and we're locked in for 8 years. That may have zero to do with Trocheck frankly, and its not the end of the world because he really is a versatile player. Lot of different elements to his game, can switch to the wing if needed. It's not like it was a bad signing, just that we probably could've filled that spot cheaper internally and really touches on the larger theme here of this organization not properly developing and promoting their prospects.
 
Strome had his weaknesses but if you can generate offense and get goals it makes up for it. The real issue was that we had a similar offensively minded center behind him so there wasn't much variability there. If we had a couple centers behind him that were good defensively and could take a face-off it wouldn't be much of a big deal.

I was a fan of the Trocheck signing, I think he's been plenty fine. It's unfortunate that Panarin hasn't really clicked with him. That being said, I've also held the opinion that for years now we should've been promoting the young players, including Chytil. We had a good idea that Strome wasnt going to have a future here. That 20-21 season where Chytil paced for +40 points getting 13 minutes a night is the sort of thing that would suggest a larger role could've been given. Unfortunately our bottom 6 was a mess last year and people really soured on him during the season. On pace for +40 points again getting 14 minutes a night, that's really good production for that sort of usage. You look at a player like Sam Bennett, the guy spent 5.5 years playing behind Monahan, Backlund and Lindholm... not much opportunity there. Don't think there's any argument now that he's a top 6 talent, the skill was always there.

Now we're in a tricky spot where our paper #2 doesn't gel with our 11 million dollar winger and we're locked in for 8 years. That may have zero to do with Trocheck frankly, and its not the end of the world because he really is a versatile player. Lot of different elements to his game, can switch to the wing if needed. It's not like it was a bad signing, just that we probably could've filled that spot cheaper internally and really touches on the larger theme here of this organization not properly developing and promoting their prospects.
5.6M annual cap hit for a guy who has exactly one 70 point season in his career, his game is built on speed and puck carrying, and the contract takes him through age 36.

Bringing Strome back for 5.6M would have been equally stupid; they are both generally the same caliber player though Trocheck will look more active putting up similar numbers.

That actually is a horrible contract, and I'd be very surprised if he's still here at the end of it.
 
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I don't know but losing glue guys doesn't help. The moping has reached new highs

We had a swagger/magic last season... even if it was just the PP and Shesty, it was there.

We still suck but now our PP sucks and Shesty is human. There's a mental aspect to it. It's not the entire issue but it's definitely not helping the situation.
My point is Reaves was on the team and the same issues still existed. Sure there's a mental aspect to it but Ryan Reaves is not the reason why these things are happening.
 
Strome had his weaknesses but if you can generate offense and get goals it makes up for it. The real issue was that we had a similar offensively minded center behind him so there wasn't much variability there. If we had a couple centers behind him that were good defensively and could take a face-off it wouldn't be much of a big deal.

I was a fan of the Trocheck signing, I think he's been plenty fine. It's unfortunate that Panarin hasn't really clicked with him. That being said, I've also held the opinion that for years now we should've been promoting the young players, including Chytil. We had a good idea that Strome wasnt going to have a future here. That 20-21 season where Chytil paced for +40 points getting 13 minutes a night is the sort of thing that would suggest a larger role could've been given. Unfortunately our bottom 6 was a mess last year and people really soured on him during the season. On pace for +40 points again getting 14 minutes a night, that's really good production for that sort of usage. You look at a player like Sam Bennett, the guy spent 5.5 years playing behind Monahan, Backlund and Lindholm... not much opportunity there. Don't think there's any argument now that he's a top 6 talent, the skill was always there.

Now we're in a tricky spot where our paper #2 doesn't gel with our 11 million dollar winger and we're locked in for 8 years. That may have zero to do with Trocheck frankly, and its not the end of the world because he really is a versatile player. Lot of different elements to his game, can switch to the wing if needed. It's not like it was a bad signing, just that we probably could've filled that spot cheaper internally and really touches on the larger theme here of this organization not properly developing and promoting their prospects.
At what point is it that it's the fault of the 11.6 million dollar player if he doesn't find any linemates he gels with?
 
My point is Reaves was on the team and the same issues still existed. Sure there's a mental aspect to it but Ryan Reaves is not the reason why these things are happening.
Not the only reason, but a piece of it. Strome missing in the room doesn't help it either
 
Not the only reason, but a piece of it. Strome missing in the room doesn't help it either
In the room but maybe on the ice too. Strome as frustrating as he was, was certainly a better distributor than Trocheck is. I'm not saying he's better but perhaps he was the better fit for this roster.
 
Strome: when your work bestie is fired and the new guy has no sense of humor.
 
20-93-24
10-72-74
13-16-12
81-21-26

PP1:
20-93-24-10-23
At 1 minute mark if they haven't scored, PP 2 comes on:
13-16-72-6-4

If PP1 looks flat, PP2 starts the next PP but Chytil centers and Kakko takes Trocheck's spot, and Fox takes Schneider's spot
 
At what point is it that it's the fault of the 11.6 million dollar player if he doesn't find any linemates he gels with?
I agree... if theyre going to ask someone to waive their NMC Panarin is right there near the top of the list. Even if he was putting up his usual numbers I still have real doubts about how it'll translate in the playoffs. And it's not that he's an east/west skill guy, plenty of those players succeed in the playoffs... Kucherov is an animal in the post-season. Panarin has just developed some bad habits. Leave out the regular season if you want, you can't have your 12 million dollar winger scoring like a 8 million dollar player in the playoffs. That just cannot happen. There's a lot of players right now that have no business out-producing Panarin.
 
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I agree... if theyre going to ask someone to waive their NMC Panarin is right there near the top of the list. Even if he was putting up his usual numbers I still have real doubts about how it'll translate in the playoffs. And it's not that he's an east/west skill guy, plenty of those players succeed in the playoffs... Kucherov is an animal in the post-season. Panarin has just developed some bad habits. Leave out the regular season if you want, you can't have your 12 million dollar winger scoring like a 8 million dollar player in the playoffs. That just cannot happen. There's a lot of players right now that have no business out-producing Panarin.
He was a beast in the playoffs when playing under Torts. It’s just another story of a big name star coming to the big apple.
 
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call up the Ducks and offer them Trocheck for Strome. if that doesn't work then blow up the team.
 
Kreider fits a need for Boston. If the Rangers were serious about shaking things up that’s the spot. Debrusk + for Kreider as a starting point. Go from there. I wouldn’t be opposed to flipping Debrusk elsewhere to just keep cap space open.

That + better be a 1st round pick.

Then if we can move panarin somewhere for a young roster player and (2) 1st round picks..1 this year and 1 next.

Im all in for it.
 
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