Speculation: Roster Building Thread II (2022-23): The Puck is Prepared to be Mounted
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I would rather Staal than Harpur. But, I would also rather exhaust other options first
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Still time for the numbers to change or for the NHL and NHLPA to work something out.
haohmaru
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The return of Staalsie?
Jack Hughes’ brilliance for Devils right there with area’s past phenoms
Fifteen goals in the Devils’ past 14 games is more of an attention-grabber, so indeed are the 26 goals Hughes has recorded in 29 games since Thanksgiving.nypost.com
Brooks was writing about the Devils and he mentioned the Rangers with the Staal.
Hughes is lucky the Devils won the lottery. He would be playing on the third line as a wing on the Rangers. Everyone would be asking what's wrong with Hughes. Why can't the Rangers develop first line forwards? The Devils do have not anyone blocking Hughes. The Rangers have a million forwards playing ahead of their young guys. The Rangers cater to them because of their contracts.
@Uninstaaled would have to change his name to Reinstaaled.
Don’t put that guy through hell. No thanks. Brooks is just bored from no Hockey this past week.
haohmaru
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@Uninstaaled would have to change his name to Reinstaaled.
Reinstaaled would put ALL of us through hell.
UnSandvich
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Bettman confirms Toronto will host 2024 All-Star Game; addresses Provorov controversy
NHL commissioner Gary Bettman confirmed the worst-kept secret in South Florida on Saturday, announcing — right before the puck dropped on the 2023 All-Star Game — that the 2024 event would be hosted by the Toronto Maple Leafs.www.sportsnet.ca
"we have not engaged with the players’ association on that specific issue.”
Meaning: "The PA has not offered enough concessions for us to so much as go to the table on it. So f*** the players."
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Gallant needs to hold his vets accountable. It helps no one to just let Artemi do whatever he wants, play however he wants. Surely, he needs to be confronted, but this should start with the coach.
Pretty sure Detroit is saving their 3 retentions for others like Sundkvist , Maanta, Bertuzzi or Suter
I support Staal returning as a 6/7 at league minimum. Could benefit Trouba (as a mentor, not a defensive partner) and Schneider, help cement the locker room.
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Staal was a good Ranger who didn’t get a proper send off. I’d welcome him back. There’s nothing special on the rental D market
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I’m thinking if not for unforeseen circumstances like a COVID induced flat cap we would not be wishing so hard we could move him. He’s still putting up a ton of points.
McRanger92
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Panarin or Kreider will need to be moved after the season. Drury needs to move out money and break up the LW logjam. Panarin will have to want to leave but maybe telling him his ice is being cut and brining in more of a hardass coach will make him want out. Kreider will be easy to trade imo. His contract is good and he can still play, I’d be sad to see him go but it’s a business. He’d have more control over where he goes this summer, before his NMC downgrades to an NTC in 2024. It’s time to start moving toward the new core, especially if we have a short playoff run
Staal was also completely ass.
Proper send off, we were calling for his head.
I think it depends on the cap. If the cap rises $2-$3 million instead of $1 that could keep them around for 1 more season. Which, if we keep both our 2023 1sts/Othmann/Cuylle, may be all we need until we get to the summer of 2024. Then you consider moving 1/2. Given how deep this 2023 class is, one of those picks could be ready for the 24-25 season, but if anything you almost definitely can start planning for an infusion of both Othmann and Cuylle with other guys on the outskirts such as Berard, Rempe, Edstrom, BmB, Sykora, etc., to start pushing to fill out your 12 forward spots.
I am so uncertain about someone like Meier. I absolutely like the player. But he could cost you a 2023 1st PLUS you have to move out a Kreider/Panarin in the offseason. Where as a Tarasenko or Kane may not and likely wont cost you a 2023 1st, so you get to keep that pick and youre not moving out Kreider/Panarin to extend them, in fact you may be able to get Kane to extend on short term deals at a low AAV. So in essence you end up with more impactful pieces beyond this season than just one Timo Meier; 2023 1st staying at minimum is a plus, let alone keeping Kane around. I am less on the Kane train than at the start of the year believe me, I prefer Tarasenko, but I am just trying to look at all the chess pieces on the board. Acquiring Kane may not put you over the top this year, but it could allow you to stay on a good path for next year and beyond.
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The return of Staalsie?
Jack Hughes’ brilliance for Devils right there with area’s past phenoms
Fifteen goals in the Devils’ past 14 games is more of an attention-grabber, so indeed are the 26 goals Hughes has recorded in 29 games since Thanksgiving.
Brooks was writing about the Devils and he mentioned the Rangers with the Staal.
Hughes is lucky the Devils won the lottery. He would be playing on the third line as a wing on the Rangers. Everyone would be asking what's wrong with Hughes. Why can't the Rangers develop first line forwards? The Devils do have not anyone blocking Hughes. The Rangers have a million forwards playing ahead of their young guys. The Rangers cater to them because of their contracts.
Nope
Nope nope nope.
No Staal. He’s still really bad.
I mean tarasenko will cost a conditional first.
Kane is injuried and possibly not even a deadline move.
Meier is the cream of the deadline crop, but the only reason SJS even moves him out is if they can't get a working long term deal with him (or he doesn't wanna stick around for the rebuild).
The downside of Meier is almost no team who's a contender can afford him past this season without moving out a chunk of their roster. Would adding Meier to our current roster be a major coup? Yeah sure, but as you point out, we'd be forced to move someone big from our roster in return.
I'm hopeful trouba returns to form, Kreider is still a likely 30g scorer, who needs to get on a hot streak and he's looking at 40g.
The kids are going to start getting paid soon, and we're going to need some cheap talent. The vesey signing was really good because it gave us cost assured 4th line( at worst)help even if the cap goes up.
I think the message bettman is saying publically is different than what he just told GM's because you've got a bunch of guys getting locked up, and I dont think its because the cap is staying flat. I think the cap is going to get a bump and GM's want extra space so theyre using this time to lock up guys.
I think the difference with the bolded is it could be a 2024 2nd with the condition it becomes a 2024 1st if they make the SCF / plays a certain amount of games / etc., to protect ourselves.
The NHLPA doesn’t have an executive director. Fehr is on his way out. The NHLPA had a big meeting a few days ago. One faction wants the former mayor from Boston. The problem with Marty Walsh is he apparently has a close relationship with the Bruins ownership. Nobody wants Jeremy Jacobs. One faction wants Mike Gillis. Who is Bettman supposed to negotiate with? Gary will something in return. Gary will tell them pay your debts and the cap will go up.
Not the remix that anyone really wants.
Sounded like Brooks was trying to wish it into existence more so than it being an actual thing though so that’s good.
Also Lafferty for Kravtsov who says no?*
*this question is for everyone other than Jovo
EdJovanovski
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Better than Trouba, at least in the game we played against Florida. He’s a better skater than him easily lol
Since when did we switch from the Trouba is injured narrative to the Trouba is just bad narrative?
Trouba last year and in the playoffs was the exact player we needed.
Trouba has never been a bad skater in his career.
Trouba has never been this bad defensively before.
Trouba isnt 30 yet so its likely that he isn't hitting any sort of cliff.
We can make things fit next year but we will be limited in our strategic contract approach and improving via the market. I say trade Panarin at deadline if he’s not helping us if the way that he should. I through out an idea involving Florida.
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