Speculation: Roster Building Thread II (2022-23): The Puck is Prepared to be Mounted

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It really shouldn't be too difficult to find an upgrade on Harpur for cheap, that's one area Drury should shore up ASAP. Or just bring up Jones but that's not happening.
 
With Blais clearly needing conditioning, when back he’ll likely be a healthy scratch.

Leschyshyn isn’t the answer at 4C at the moment at least.

Kravtsov isn’t a 4th liner.

Cuylle is still developing and needs to be in Hartford.

The only legitimate 4th liner on the 4th line right now is Gauthier. Drury is going to do something sooner rather than later to remedy that. Even though a simple solution would be slotting Kravtsov to RW1, Kreider to Trocheck’s line and Vesey to 4LW. Would create instant depth and better balance, but what do I know
 
Is Panarin move-able?

Realistically, what are our options? This is the biggest question this franchise is facing currently.
Yes, in the offseason. Some $ retained, probably a contract back.

Place where he would mind going (e.g. Florida)

Of course if he lights it up in the playoffs, never mind!

A bunch of pieces that don’t fit.
This!

I think at this point, Gallant would be crazy not to give the Kids a long run together.
 
Drury has completely painted himself in a corner. His reaction at games lately hasnt been subtle. He committed to these guys and built the roster. He needs to own the construction of the team, especially the forwards. It has to be wearing on him with some of the things we see from the core guys, a couple in particular. We all joke about Drury but when he played there were certain things he seemed to have expectations of that matriculated through his teams when he was in leadership roles and I think he sees some guys on this team right now that he would have an issue with if he was in the locker room with them based on the effort and attention by some of them. He made the group so he's trying to have patience but you can visibly see the frustration brewing.

Wait what?!

Drury didnt sign Panarin, Trouba or krieder Not sure what youre talking about
 
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Went to the Top Prospects game tonight and we NEED to draft Gracyn Sawchyn. Best player on the ice today and he’s not that highly rated, only has 2 pages in his prospects section thread. The next Kravtsov.
 
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These are the holes I believe we need to fill:

Panarin - Zibanejad - Kreidee
Lafreniere - Chytil - Kakko
XXXXX - Trocheck - XXXXX
Vesey - Goodrow - Gauthier
Kravtsov

Lindgren - Fox
Miller - Trouba
XXXXX - Schneider
XXXXX

Shesterkin
Halak
 
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The roster construction, especially at forward is terrible
This is what happens when the previous president and GM of the team decided to sign two late 20's wingers to 7 year contracts within 8-9 months. This stupid team decides to rebuild and 16 months later they are signing Panarin for 7 years and are trading for Trouba and giving him $56M.

I never wanted Panarin. The accelerated rebuild stuff was bullshit. The Rangers had barely started the rebuild and they are looking at adding a 29 year old winger. The team wasn’t ready to win. Well you're always looking to add good players was the response. Nonsense. Panarin has become an albatross. You knew that was coming. Three years remaining on the contract. Signing bonus money up the ass. NMC. JD did everything to bring this guy here. When the Rangers built a team good enough to win and they needed a piece, then go get it. Chicago. 2009. Hossa. All of the pieces were in place. We need another winger. Let's add Hossa. The Rangers did the reverse.

There were many fans and media on the accelerated rebuild boat.
 
With Blais clearly needing conditioning, when back he’ll likely be a healthy scratch.

Leschyshyn isn’t the answer at 4C at the moment at least.

Kravtsov isn’t a 4th liner.

Cuylle is still developing and needs to be in Hartford.

The only legitimate 4th liner on the 4th line right now is Gauthier. Drury is going to do something sooner rather than later to remedy that. Even though a simple solution would be slotting Kravtsov to RW1, Kreider to Trocheck’s line and Vesey to 4LW. Would create instant depth and better balance, but what do I know

I mean Goodrow and Vesey are 4th liners who should move up the lineup in a pinch, not regularly penciled in the top 9. Alas here we are though.
 
It really shouldn't be too difficult to find an upgrade on Harpur for cheap, that's one area Drury should shore up ASAP. Or just bring up Jones but that's not happening.
Harpur is painfully bad. I mean he literally passed the puck to a Toronto forechecking forward while not having much pressure on him and having time to think about it, in a 2-1 game.
 
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These are the holes I believe we need to fill:

Panarin - Zibanejad - Kreidee
Lafreniere - Chytil - Kakko
XXXXX - Trocheck - XXXXX
Vesey - Goodrow - Gauthier
Kravtsov

Lindgren - Fox
Miller - Trouba
XXXXX - Schneider
XXXXX

Shesterkin
Halak
I wish we could trade Kreider for a young top 6 RW prospect.
 
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This is what happens when the previous president and GM of the team decided to sign two late 20's wingers to 7 year contracts within 8-9 months. This stupid team decides to rebuild and 16 months later they are signing Panarin for 7 years and are trading for Trouba and giving him $56M.

I never wanted Panarin. The accelerated rebuild stuff was bullshit. The Rangers had barely started the rebuild and they are looking at adding a 29 year old winger. The team wasn’t ready to win. Well you're always looking to add good players was the response. Nonsense. Panarin has become an albatross. You knew that was coming. Three years remaining on the contract. Signing bonus money up the ass. NMC. JD did everything to bring this guy here. When the Rangers built a team good enough to win and they needed a piece, then go get it. Chicago. 2009. Hossa. All of the pieces were in place. We need another winger. Let's add Hossa. The Rangers did the reverse.

There were many fans and media on the accelerated rebuild boat.

In retrospect you are correct. I was very pro-Panarin and I still would be had the team otherwise executed what I thought the plan was going to be.

The Rangers should have signed Panarin but continued to strip down everywhere else. Panarin was the "put butts in seats" meal ticket: he could score 100 points, sell jerseys, and bring the crowds to the Garden to keep Dolan's income flowing, and be the piece that kept the offense afloat while the team completely reconstructed it's forward core. He, and Zibanejad, were the ones to keep as they were young enough to be retained and then could be the "elder statesmen," for a well drafted and well developed group of forwards.

Trouba, I think, was the same logic. They were stripping down the defense and rebuilding from the ground up with DeAngelo, Fox, Lindgren, Nils, Miller, Hajak, Robertson, Jones, and eventually, Schneider. Trouba was going to be the one guy to get money to be the anchor THROUGH the rebuild.

For whatever reason - maybe it was Fox turning into a star, Shesterkin being way better than they thought as a Vezina winner, winning back to back lotteries - they pivoted away from "this is a longer term rebuild" to "We have to win one for Mika and Kreider and Panarin."

No, that never should have been the plan. Kreider and Buch both should have been liquidated for futures, and once Trouba was quickly surpassed by Fox he should have been on the move as well. Same with DeAngelo, once Fox turned into a stud, DeAngelo should have been immediately liquidated coming off his own 60 point pace season.

Instead, every screw up they've made can be directly attributable to their misguided desire to fashion "two windows," out of a Panarin-Zibanejad-Kreider-Trouba core and then a subsequent Kakko-Laf-Chytil-Fox core.

We know the missteps. They could have had Jason Robertson and a first for Kreider; they passed. They could have had a first and a prospect for Buch; they chose "grit" so they could win immediately. They invested too heavily in other "win now" pieces like Goodrow. They signed Trocheck to a 7 year deal when it looks like he's already been passed by Chytil.

They are in horrific shape. They cannot add to the core that actually has a decent chance of developing into a Cup winner. They are locked into this roster now that has serious deficiencies, when they should have been parsing off pieces OTHER THAN Panarin and Mika all along.

They could have had another year picking at the top of the draft and TWO more first round picks AND Jason Robertson on this team.
 
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The trochek signing is going to haunt this team for a long time.

Strome took 600k less and two years less to go to a rebuilding team. I think I could have stomached a 5x5 contract of Strome. At least he had chemistry with Panarin . Dude got so much hate here.
 
Strome took 600k less and two years less to go to a rebuilding team. I think I could have stomached a 5x5 contract of Strome. At least he had chemistry with Panarin . Dude got so much hate here.

I would've much rather went to Haula type, cheaper less term 3c and given Chytil the keys.

This front office has shown zero trust in the kids with their FA moves.
 
Kreids has gone full emo. He was brutal last night.

Panarin can't play RW, and Kreider WON'T play RW.

NO doubt in my mind ( right or wrong) that a trade for a top 6 RW is coming.

Hope the resident Town Criers here have a box for their box cause "itsa comin".

Kid line was excellent.

This team is built like Young Frankenstein.
Abby something.
 
Strome took 600k less and two years less to go to a rebuilding team. I think I could have stomached a 5x5 contract of Strome. At least he had chemistry with Panarin . Dude got so much hate here.
Problem with the Strome narrative is you're basically catering one player to another. And while that other player is one of the highest paid in the league, I'm not sure he's the guy that carries a team to a Stanley Cup.

So then you have a two player issue instead of a one player one. Trocheck may actually be great for this organization in a post-Panarin world. Strome wouldn't have been.
 
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