For all we know he could have been against doing them.
I think he definitely wasn't in favor of signing Panarin btw. The other 2? I'd guess he was for them.
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For all we know he could have been against doing them.
I think he definitely wasn't in favor of signing Panarin btw. The other 2? I'd guess he was for them.
jerseyjinx94
I jinx players.
I’m not sure I understand all the doom and gloom posts about roster construction. The Rangers have a lot of money tied into 7 players, I get it. But 2-3 of those guys are movable. The cap is stagnant anyway and when it goes up some of those deals will be bargains. Most of the kids haven’t earned pay raises anyway.
This team has a ton of talent and with some work around the edges has the makings of a contender. Particularly in the metro, where the hurricanes and devils look to be the competition, I’d put my money on the Rangers to come out of that trio. Carolina has been ravaged by injuries, their goaltending is a huge question mark. The devils aren’t playoff tested, I’m not positive that their young players will adjust to playoff style hockey and their goaltending is also a huge question mark.
The Rangers are a deep talented team, and Drury has to identify the few additions that will really bolster the fringes of the lineup and we’ll be coming out of the metro again.
This team has a ton of talent and with some work around the edges has the makings of a contender. Particularly in the metro, where the hurricanes and devils look to be the competition, I’d put my money on the Rangers to come out of that trio. Carolina has been ravaged by injuries, their goaltending is a huge question mark. The devils aren’t playoff tested, I’m not positive that their young players will adjust to playoff style hockey and their goaltending is also a huge question mark.
The Rangers are a deep talented team, and Drury has to identify the few additions that will really bolster the fringes of the lineup and we’ll be coming out of the metro again.
The kids are alright. It’s everyone else that’s the problem.
I would’ve rather hurled myself off a cliff than watch this team re-sign Strome and keep him stapled to Panarin.
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What does this mean? I feel like last night vs Toronto was like the first time I've seen a camera cut to him during a game in a long time, it certainly hasn't been a running theme of "cut to drury and him looking pissed" or something.
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From what I understand he had an extremely strong voice even as agm. It's one of the reasons he continued to skip vacant gm jobs. His involvement was not just doing superficial, and I can absolutely see why people would question whether he was for or against signing bread. It's not exactly his type of player, although on the teams that he was successful with he had those kind of skill based players that were big contributors. Unfortunately we will always have to wonder how much panarin shifted the direction of this franchise when he decided to take less money to come here...
I'm seen it plenty of times over the past few weeks. Drury is stoic, he doesn't show a lot of emotion either way so when you see "some" it's more than just some
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying they should have locked up Strome but think there could have been better options than signing Trocheck to 7 years. I like the player has had good moments here but just think the contract is a tad long.
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Panarin-Mika-XXX
Lafreniere-Chytil-Kakko
Kreider-Trocheck-XXX
Vesey-Goodrow-Gauthier
I feel like this is the group - the XXXs could be filled in with Kravtsov and/or trade acquisitions.
If you're not going to keep the kid line together:
Kreider-Mika-Kakko
Panarin-Chytil-XXX
Lafreniere-Trocheck-XXX
Vesey-Goodrow-Gauthier
Either way, 2 middle six wingers should help round this group out nicely.
Lafreniere-Chytil-Kakko
Kreider-Trocheck-XXX
Vesey-Goodrow-Gauthier
I feel like this is the group - the XXXs could be filled in with Kravtsov and/or trade acquisitions.
If you're not going to keep the kid line together:
Kreider-Mika-Kakko
Panarin-Chytil-XXX
Lafreniere-Trocheck-XXX
Vesey-Goodrow-Gauthier
Either way, 2 middle six wingers should help round this group out nicely.
Bingo. Completely landlocked into that Trochek deal and now paying 7mil aav for our 3c.
No trust in Chytil at all with that contract.
I think they want Goodrow on the 3rd line wing
Pick up a cheap C like Bonino or Bjustad
Get a big body 3rd LD that’s better than Harpur
Biggest need is a top 6 RW
I’d offer up Kravtsov, Jones and picks
Ideally keep both 1sts
Probably gonna see Blais dealt and Leschsyn and Hajek waived . Gauthier may go too but I’d rather keep him
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I didn't like the Panarin/Trouba acquisitions either (I said so at the time). They made little sense at the time, more so now. They weren't ready to win; they wound up just half-assing the rebuild. It's hard to rebuild and contend at the same time. They brought those two in to fill seats, bring in income and to keep an impatient owner happy; that's not a good way to run an organization.
I would've traded Kreider before he signed the extension (said so at the time); last year was a career year he'll
never repeat.
It might be crazy to say, but the Rangers winning those 2 draft lotteries may not have been the best thing to have happened to this organization, to make it worse, they won those lotteries with Lafreniere/Kakko being at/near the top of the draft instead of a McDavid/Crosby/Mario Lemieux/Austen Matthews, etc. draft year. They'd have been better off picking lower and allowing the rebuild to continue it's proper process, instead of trying to step steps on the build and think they were better than they really were. The yoiung players they have, they need to develop properly, but this organization repeatedly failed them. The players themselves are not without blame either though.
Seeing the run to the ECF last year was fun to see, but it put expectations on this team that were unrealistic. The organization's plight is one they brought on themselves by their own philosophies and won't be fixed with a trade or two. The coaching staff has driven us nuts; some of their decisions have been indefensible. I'd be shocked if a coaching change is made now, though if one were to be made, I wouldn't scream blue murder. If they crap out early in the playoffs, and are healthy, all bets are off.
Realistically what are our choices for LD out there? and I'm not spening a first rounder plus on Gavrikov (i Know he's ok but still) or Edmundson ugh
Whether he did or didn't isn't really relevant because he is married to them now either way.
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Trochek has 2 years of NMC left on his contract, after this season. We're not that landlocked. Still stinks cap-wise, but not a catastrophe.
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John Davidson swooping in to kneecap the franchise then f***ing off back to CBJ (to do the same exact thing with Gaudreau!!!!) is not the outcome I expected, but it's what happened.
Dont blame the fans and media, the whole point of sports is getting excited about player moves. Its the organizations job to know better and whether it was Dolan, Sather, JD, Gorton or Drury, they f***ed up with the Panarin & Trouba moves. But that is ancient history at this point, so the only direction is forward. We can take solace in the fact that Fox, Miller, Chytil, Kakko, Lindgren, Lafreniere, Schneider look like an exciting young core.
There are moves to be made this year. Get to work Drury.
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I'd be fine with Panarin's lower rate of scoring if it weren't for his insanely lazy turnovers in the neutral zones and around the blue line in the offensive zone.
The coaches should be able to address this, but Panarin makes the same mistakes over and over.
The coaches should be able to address this, but Panarin makes the same mistakes over and over.
Trochek has 2 years of NMC left on his contract, after this season. We're not that landlocked. Still stinks cap-wise, but not a catastrophe.
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And after that, Trocheks value will be buried.
Horrendous deal considering
1. We had Chytil to fill for 2c
2. That's Buch money and he's alot better both overall and fit for the team
jerseyjinx94
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Trocheck is a player with a different skill set than most of the team. He’s a hard nosed grinder. His cap hit is not unmanageable. I probably would have just acquired a shorter term middle C center to hedge Chytil, but it’s not the path they took. So long as we don’t lose Chytil because of his contract, I’m fine with him.
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As long as Trocheck continues to score 50+, agitate, skate, win faceoffs and kill penalties, I couldn't give a shit what numerical line he's on as long as it isn't 4.
Center depth is a good thing. A very good thing. We haven't had 3 good centers since Richard-Brassard-Stepan. It opens a lot of doors. We will move Goodrow or Trouba to accommodate Chytil.
The Capitals don't have a single blueliner except John Carlson under contract for next season. Like Pitt, they're trying to play while Ovechkin is still around. Trouba would check a lot of boxes for them.
Center depth is a good thing. A very good thing. We haven't had 3 good centers since Richard-Brassard-Stepan. It opens a lot of doors. We will move Goodrow or Trouba to accommodate Chytil.
The Capitals don't have a single blueliner except John Carlson under contract for next season. Like Pitt, they're trying to play while Ovechkin is still around. Trouba would check a lot of boxes for them.
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The backhand pass to no one at the offensive blue line with less than 10 minutes left in the game was unhinged. The only guys who think "got to the net" last night were the Kid Line, the defenseman and Cuylle lol.
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