Paulie Walnutz
HFNYR JUST AS SOFT AS NYR
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I wouldn’t discount any Rangers/Sharks talks considering Grier was with us before taking the job out there and he’s close to Drury. Plus don’t forget Quinn is the coach.
Speculation: Roster Building Thread II (2022-23): The Puck is Prepared to be Mounted
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haohmaru
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I mean, yes, you can say this but you also need to add the context that virtually an entire team (which, at the time, was 2nd or 3rd youngest in the league iirc) of young players now have 20 NHL playoff games under their belts along with 2 series wins. You'd have to think they'd be more ready for round 2 this year.
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A guy like Meier has a 6 mil cap hit, which is 3 mil with full retention, so theoretically we can fit him and someone else. I just can't see Drury paying what it would take to get him unless he plans to re-sign him. And unless he does something unexpected, we won't have the cap space for that this summer.
If Meier really is a target and Drury makes a deal for him, I expect it to involve contracts going out (Goodrow at least) and Meier would have to agree to a contract extension. I don't see any chance we trade for him and then go into the offseason with him needing a 10 mil QO. In the end, I think it's going to end up being too hard to work out a deal with SJ that works for our cap situation.
Other guys like Kane, Horvat, etc., I don't think there's any chance we trade for them.
Daves a mess
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Easy.
Trade Lindgren, Igor, and Sammy.
Ice Libor, Garand, and Trivigno.
Then call me "Berns a mess".
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AlaBlueShirt
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Don't mind the devils spending assets on him since that group will be ran over in the playoffs.
Zats Muccarello
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But he'd likely take less than $10m with term so his QO is kind of irrelevant (I don't think we're getting Meier)
MrAlmost
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Panarin for Meier, sure. Otherwise we aren't getting him. The Rangers and Sharks are talking, but I would put my money on those being about Barabanov.
If we're dead set on renting and getting an impact forward, mier fits the bill better than anyone out there. Just keep him away from Panarin.
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The devils are in just as much if not worse of a cap situation this off-season. Look at everyone they have to resign, they are going to lose some guys for sure as it is. I don’t think they can afford him unless a contract goes the other way.
NoQuitInNewMexico
it's okay cause it's all just the way it should be
Puljujarvi-Chytil-Gauthier, I’m going for the hockey IQ underflow strategy
This is just one of those drafts man.. I've kinda just accepted the fact that Drury is probably going to deal one of the firsts though. I don't agree with it but oh well.
Colorado took 5 years since their last playoff miss to win a cup. It was a journey for Tampa. They had a run where they missed the playoffs 5 out of 6 seasons and after that last miss it took them 7 more years to win a championship. Stammer and Hedman are the only 2 that endured the majority of it. Tons of good players came and went there, Lecavalier, St Louis, Callahan, Tyler Johnson, Drouin, Miller, all replaced in some way or another by Kucherov, Palat, Point, Cirelli, Gourde, now they have Hagel filling another hole. They continue to find ways to replace players. Incredibly competitive throughout this time period. About as close as you can get to a modern day dynasty.
I'm not saying that's how long it needs to take but if I'm being objective with where this team is at... our franchise winger is underpeforming, our right side is incredibly weak. Kakko has all the promise in the world, he's turning a corner but he's not fully there yet. Kravtsov has plenty of potential but that's another RW that's not there yet. Laf isn't there yet. Chytil is ready. Our D is pretty f***ing solid but it doesn't help that Trouba began the year hurt. That's a disadvantage and our 6th D is a question mark. People will take that as being down on the team. Its just being objective. We have a good young team with plenty of promise but I dont think those holes on the right can just be fixed with a deadline deal. That doesn't mean we can't make a push and maybe be a contender.. it's just weighing that shit versus looking at the quality of this draft, I'd much rather take my chances on the 2 picks. It'll be interesting to play Boston in a couple days.. that's a team with almost no holes, are we beating them in a 7 game series? Maybe, maybe not.
Central Scouting just released their rankings, Button just released his January rankings. He has players like Ziemmer and Wood in the 20s. RWs that are goal scorers. They happen to fill a need. Regardless of need, Dower Nillson is ripping the Swedish junior league, ranked as a 1st/2nd rounder. Maybe one of the USDP guys slips down there? Lots of high end talent available down there. Even for competitive teams, the more picks the better in a draft like this
Colorado took 5 years since their last playoff miss to win a cup. It was a journey for Tampa. They had a run where they missed the playoffs 5 out of 6 seasons and after that last miss it took them 7 more years to win a championship. Stammer and Hedman are the only 2 that endured the majority of it. Tons of good players came and went there, Lecavalier, St Louis, Callahan, Tyler Johnson, Drouin, Miller, all replaced in some way or another by Kucherov, Palat, Point, Cirelli, Gourde, now they have Hagel filling another hole. They continue to find ways to replace players. Incredibly competitive throughout this time period. About as close as you can get to a modern day dynasty.
I'm not saying that's how long it needs to take but if I'm being objective with where this team is at... our franchise winger is underpeforming, our right side is incredibly weak. Kakko has all the promise in the world, he's turning a corner but he's not fully there yet. Kravtsov has plenty of potential but that's another RW that's not there yet. Laf isn't there yet. Chytil is ready. Our D is pretty f***ing solid but it doesn't help that Trouba began the year hurt. That's a disadvantage and our 6th D is a question mark. People will take that as being down on the team. Its just being objective. We have a good young team with plenty of promise but I dont think those holes on the right can just be fixed with a deadline deal. That doesn't mean we can't make a push and maybe be a contender.. it's just weighing that shit versus looking at the quality of this draft, I'd much rather take my chances on the 2 picks. It'll be interesting to play Boston in a couple days.. that's a team with almost no holes, are we beating them in a 7 game series? Maybe, maybe not.
Central Scouting just released their rankings, Button just released his January rankings. He has players like Ziemmer and Wood in the 20s. RWs that are goal scorers. They happen to fill a need. Regardless of need, Dower Nillson is ripping the Swedish junior league, ranked as a 1st/2nd rounder. Maybe one of the USDP guys slips down there? Lots of high end talent available down there. Even for competitive teams, the more picks the better in a draft like this
Crease
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Kreider set to return Thursday. 22 players doesn’t include Gauthier (IR). Once Gauthier is ready to return, Rangers will have to make a decision about Brodzinski/Leschyshyn/Blais.
egelband
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I agree Panarin is highly unlikely to be traded. But I wouldn’t characterize the suggestion as laughable. He's the one guy signed long-term who doesnt fit Drury's idea of a 'playoff guy'. But he has next-level skills to offset that, i think we'd all agree. So while i *highly* doubt any of the long-term contracts get moved, if one does, it's probably Panarin.
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egelband
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I strongly agree with your assessment of the situation and the perspective you present here needs to be repeated here regularly...these things take time. We need patience. And much more, Drury and co. need patience. And i'm kind of thinking they will show patience. Fine-tuning is reasonable, calculated risks are understandable. I dont expect the team to sell the farm. I certainly hope they hold all their frps.
Rangers made a deep run last year because of their deadline acquisitions (NONE of whom they retained). Without them, Rangers are lucky to get past the first round. This is not a team built for playoff hockey....hasn't been since Torts was coach (can't count AV because he used what Torts has built).
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QO is 10 mil because his final year salary is 10 mil and the contract was signed prior to the MOU changing the way QOs work.
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It varies based on roster moves. As of right now, it's at 5.3 mil at the deadline. When Gauthier is healthy, one of Brodz/Leschyshyn will be sent down, so our projected number will go up. But of course further injuries and callups will push it the other way.
EdJovanovski
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Meier lol… if only we had a homegrown PPG two-way RW who was a lockerroom favorite. That trade will haunt us for eternity
McRanger92
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The Rangers made a run because of their deadline acquisitions? That’s a new one. They stabilized the team in the second half for sure but motte was injured, Copp did nothing after game 2 against Pittsburgh and Vatrano had his moments. Mika, Kreider, Fox, Igor and the Kid Line got us through to Tampa where a young squad in its first run ran out of gas. We are already way ahead of last years pre-deadline team, and we’ll certainly add reinforcements who will help in the playoffs. Once we’re in it’s up to injury luck and getting the bounces. Are they perfect? No, but who is? I feel nuts still having to make a defense of a clearly very good team
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