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Speculation: Roster Building Thread II (2022-23): The Puck is Prepared to be Mounted

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Idlerlee said:
Are there any realistic avenues that can bring Mats Zuccarello back to MSG ahead of the 23/24 season? Guy is aging like the finest wine.
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As nice as it would be; I wouldn’t say there’s a chance. Zucc fits that team perfectly, & if anything they need another top 6 W not to subtract one.
 
The cost of players this trade deadline likely won't be the same as last trade deadline. Comes down to supply and demand (IE how many teams are selling/how many rentals those teams have against how many teams are buying). Not to mention the quality of those available rentals.

Still have about 2 months until the TDL but in the East there is a gap there though between the last playoff spot and those outside save for the Islanders. The Wings and Sabres have some games in hand to catch up.

In the West is about the same save for the Flames. Could be setting up where there are a lot more sellers then buyers.
 
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Taluss said:
As nice as it would be; I wouldn’t say there’s a chance. Zucc fits that team perfectly, & if anything they need another top 6 W not to subtract one.
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No to Zuc till he’s ufa the next year so rental only. May be a next year deadline option

As for this year they should be Looking at a minor move W Hajek and Blais to shake things up
 
Vitto79 said:
No to Zuc till he’s ufa the next year so rental only. May be a next year deadline option

As for this year they should be Looking at a minor move W Hajek and Blais to shake things up
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He has a 10 team no move clause.
He's not waiving that to come to NY.
He was furious at being moved to dallas, and absolutely has no love for the org.

There is no zucc reunion.
 
Leonardo87 said:
Kakko deserves to stay in the Top 6 and Laf deserves to get demoted. sorry. lol.

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pretty sure he's allowing Laffy to get back on the 2nd line.... once he 'earns it'.

The top6 that started the year is the way to go... Kidline 2.0. And the 4th line 'checking' line.

Kreider Zibs Kakko
Panarin Trocheck Laffy
Kravtsov Chytil Gauthier
Goodrow Brodz Vesey
 
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I know a lot of people might not want to hear this, but I think Kravstov looks very overwhelmed in the Top 6. After Kakko there really isn’t much there as far as RW goes.
 
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Fitzy said:
Laf should try playing better
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So let me get this straight, after last nights game the answer is to punish the 21 year old….got it.

Let’s put tro back with panarin because that was really working, krav playing the left instead of the right, and let’s put goodrow back in the top 6, Oo and let’s not forget let’s put kreider and zibs back together when they’ve been ass together 5 v 5

Gallant gave the lines a period and a half out of the mini break to work. A f***ING PERIOD AND A HALF
 
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Mandar said:
now ask yourself something....why in the world would AZ do that? Three pieces of trash and a mid 1st round pick. I would definitely think that they would have much better offers on the table.
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because they're nice and need more college kids
 
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I don't totally understand this whole season. Going into it, we were led to believe that the success of the team was going to rely on whether the kids could grow into meaningful positions. But part of that philosophy is being okay with the downside. Dealing with the inconsistencies of young players. Looking like crap some games, etc. But here we are putting all our eggs in the win now basket. And what's suffering is the development of several kids who are by no means perfect. We're bouncing them around the lineup. We're demoting them when things get hard in games, we're over relying on vets. Exactly what a team that only has win now on their minds does. I think it's a giant organizational failure and a huge misconnect between coaches, management and players. The message has been one thing. But the actions have been another. I think, if, rightly so, your plan is to go with the kids and develop them so you can have a more complete team, then do it. But the more you demote these kids when they are clearly not getting the job done, the more you are hurting the overall chance of building something sustainable here. Putting Laffy or Kravy or Kakko in weird spots in the lineup constantly is not great. Not just for them but for the whole team. Moving the kids around the lineup also means constantly changing who the vets are playing with. What the team needs is a unified approach from the GM down to the coaches down to the farm system. What are the team priorities? Because trying to win and develop at the same time is going to hit snags and when it does, what are you going to prioritize first? Winning or development?

Right now, it's winning. And you can see it's having an impact on the guys who are not yet fully developed.
 
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gravey9 said:
I don't totally understand this whole season. Going into it, we were led to believe that the success of the team was going to rely on whether the kids could grow into meaningful positions. But part of that philosophy is being okay with the downside. Dealing with the inconsistencies of young players. Looking like crap some games, etc. But here we are putting all our eggs in the win now basket. And what's suffering is the development of several kids who are by no means perfect. We're bouncing them around the lineup. We're demoting them when things get hard in games, we're over relying on vets. Exactly what a team that only has win now on their minds does. I think it's a giant organizational failure and a huge misconnect between coaches, management and players. The message has been one thing. But the actions have been another. I think, if, rightly so, your plan is to go with the kids and develop them so you can have a more complete team, then do it. But the more you demote these kids when they are clearly not getting the job done, the more you are hurting the overall chance of building something sustainable here. Putting Laffy or Kravy or Kakko in weird spots in the lineup constantly is not great. Not just for them but for the whole team. Moving the kids around the lineup also means constantly changing who the vets are playing with. What the team needs is a unified approach from the GM down to the coaches down to the farm system. What are the team priorities? Because trying to win and develop at the same time is going to hit snags and when it does, what are you going to prioritize first? Winning or development?

Right now, it's winning. And you can see it's having an impact on the guys who are not yet fully developed.
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Well, that has been true for the whole time TBH. The moment they draft Kakko, they go and sign Trouba and Panarin. The rebuild was over, and it was straight to win now mode again.
 
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