Speculation: Roster Building Thread DCLXXXVI:

[NYR Viper]

Tyler Seguin says hi

If Dallas traded for McDonagh, I'm sure they would prefer to hold on to Seguin as that would be a 'go for it' move.

 

[TheTakedown]

Either way we lost two centers, and he fits the age group were building towards.

Agreed. Grigorenko should be a target imo

 

[NoQuitInNewMexico]

I can't think of a one-for-one McDonagh trade. I mean there's a ton of teams and a ton of players and you never know, but still. Barkov, Seguin? Completely untouchable. If we want to get a superstar for him, maybe wait on a decent team bottoming out and/or winning the lottery or something.

 

[JimmyG89]

It's interesting because Chicago just traded Hjalmersson with 2 years left because they were afraid of his next contract. Same with Panarin. They are regretting the Seabrook deal for sure. Suter is one that has worked out so far but he was UFA at 28, not 30 like McDonagh will be. Giordano was resigned long term and I think that's a contract they will regret pretty soon. Unless McDonagh is willing to discuss a 5 year deal, I'd be inclined to consider moving him now.

Obviously the return would need to be exceptional.

I'd probably look at something like:

Honka + Heiskenen + DAL 1st + DAL 2nd

McDonagh is more Keith and Suter than Seabrook. He can skate. At 28, he can be a top pairing guy for another 5 years and transition into a #2/3 by then. Not to mention his presence on the team itself. Current captain. This isn't Callahan, Girardi, and Staal. He isn't breaking down right now.

I'll reiterate, he can skate. The 30+ guys that we've signed could not. 6-7 years isn't a bad deal. He'd be a 2nd pairing guy the last few years. We'll also not have Hank, Staal, and others on big contracts then either. Unless this goes completely south very fast, he is a keeper and should retire a Ranger.

 

[silverfish]

Maybe don't trade McDonagh

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Is EDM really going to devote 1/3 of their cap to two players? McDavid is definitely worth 1/6 of total availability, but I don't know how you can ice a competent team when you only have $50MM to fill 18 positions...

Wonder if there's a deal to be struck around McDonagh for Draisaitl...?

 

[Lion Hound]

Wonder if there would be any interest in Yakupov as a UFA?

 

[NYR Viper]

McDonagh is more Keith and Suter than Seabrook. He can skate. At 28, he can be a top pairing guy for another 5 years and transition into a #2/3 by then. Not to mention his presence on the team itself. Current captain. This isn't Callahan, Girardi, and Staal. He isn't breaking down right now.

I'll reiterate, he can skate. The 30+ guys that we've signed could not. 6-7 years isn't a bad deal. He'd be a 2nd pairing guy the last few years. We'll also not have Hank, Staal, and others on big contracts then either. Unless this goes completely south very fast, he is a keeper and should retire a Ranger.

I have no problem with McDonagh at 32-33 years old. It's the 34, 35, 36, 37 year old seasons that concern me a little bit on that 7 year deal. He will be 30 when he hits UFA

 

[NoQuitInNewMexico]

Maybe don't trade McDonagh

This is the best course of action, yeah

 

[FJB]

I don't know about all this trade McD stuff. WTF replaces him? lol

 

[TheBPA]

Maybe don't trade McDonagh

Can't wait until we stop talking about trading McDonagh.

Has the entire board gone into bernmeister mode?

 

[silverfish]

Bold prediction:

McDonagh finishes top-10 in Norris trophy voting this season because he doesn't have to drag Girardi around the ice this season.

This prediction of course assuming that AV doesn't give him Staal or Holden as a partner ...

 

[Irishguy42]

Bold prediction:

McDonagh finishes top-10 in Norris trophy voting this season because he doesn't have to drag Girardi around the ice this season.

This prediction of course assuming that AV doesn't give him Staal or Holden as a partner ...

Nah. Not bold enough.

Bold prediction:

Skjei ends up with more Norris votes than McDonagh

 

[JayMan82]

I don't know about all this trade McD stuff. WTF replaces him? lol

If the Rangers falter this year and Skjei shows Top 2 abilities, then I can see us shipping out McD for assets rather than paying him big bucks (Shattenkirk like money) when he's hitting his 30s.

 

[RGY]

Bold prediction:

McDonagh finishes top-10 in Norris trophy voting this season because he doesn't have to drag Girardi around the ice this season.

This prediction of course assuming that AV doesn't give him Staal or Holden as a partner ...

If we sign Shattenkirk and trade Holden then we have certainly eliminated at least one scenario while increasing his odds.

 

[AdamBanks99]

Bold prediction:

McDonagh finishes top-10 in Norris trophy voting this season because he doesn't have to drag Girardi around the ice this season.

This prediction of course assuming that AV doesn't give him Staal or Holden as a partner ...

honestly i don't even think that's very bold

 

[Fugazy]

Maybe don't trade McDonagh

This is the option I prefer the most.

 

[GAGLine]

I have no problem with McDonagh at 32-33 years old. It's the 34, 35, 36, 37 year old seasons that concern me a little bit on that 7 year deal. He will be 30 when he hits UFA

Exactly this. If McD is willing to take a shorter term deal, I'm glad to keep him, but I don't see him getting anything less that 6 x 6.

I'm sure we aren't going to trade him this year though. Give Skjei another year to show if he can be a 1st pair guy and see if any of the other guys are capable of playing top 4 on the left side. We'll also see what other dmen are brought in through free agency and trade.

If our young guys progress well, McDonagh may very well be traded next summer. Don't forget that McDonagh has had shoulder injuries and has played a lot of hockey the last 6 years, so there are some miles on his body.

 

[JimmyG89]

I have no problem with McDonagh at 32-33 years old. It's the 34, 35, 36, 37 year old seasons that concern me a little bit on that 7 year deal. He will be 30 when he hits UFA

Literally the same issues people had with Hank's deal. He's 35 and is he a top 5 goalie? Maybe not, but he showed he still has it. I'd rather bet on McDonagh being a top 4 guy at 35+ then giving up the next 5 years of his prime.

 

[Savant]

Exactly this. If McD is willing to take a shorter term deal, I'm glad to keep him, but I don't see him getting anything less that 6 x 6.

I'm sure we aren't going to trade him this year though. Give Skjei another year to show if he can be a 1st pair guy and see if any of the other guys are capable of playing top 4 on the left side. We'll also see what other dmen are brought in through free agency and trade.

If our young guys progress well, McDonagh may very well be traded next summer. Don't forget that McDonagh has had shoulder injuries and has played a lot of hockey the last 6 years, so there are some miles on his body.

They have to trade McDonagh now. They won't get as good value if he is about to go into UFA. The time is now.

 

[NYR Viper]

Literally the same issues people had with Hank's deal. He's 35 and is he a top 5 goalie? Maybe not, but he showed he still has it. I'd rather bet on McDonagh being a top 4 guy at 35+ then giving up the next 5 years of his prime.

And that's the argument right. Trying to predict when that drop off will occur. Maybe McDonagh is elite until 37. Maybe it' 33.

 

[Savant]

Literally the same issues people had with Hank's deal. He's 35 and is he a top 5 goalie? Maybe not, but he showed he still has it. I'd rather bet on McDonagh being a top 4 guy at 35+ then giving up the next 5 years of his prime.

There is only one goalie though. There are six dmen. It's a different situation, especially because the Rangers window was still open when they resigned Hank. Also goalies don't tend to get fair value on trade marker, when as this is the best time probably ever to sell on dmen.

 

[Leetch3]

ONLY scenario that you trade mcdonagh is if you are going to completely blow the team up and go into a total rebuild. there is 0% chance of that ever happening here

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

I would prefer they trade Mcdonagh now as well. It won't happen, but I'd like to see it. He would command a massive return. If Hamonic, a decent second pairing guy with a history of injuries can return a 1st and 2 2nd's McDonagh could return a high first, high prospect/young player and more.

On another note, where is the Around the NHL thread? It's so frustrating not to have anywhere to discuss stuff like the McDavid deal. That was arguably the most important thread on our board since it saves us from having to discuss things with opposing fans.

 

[DutchShamrock]

This is the option I prefer the most.

Yeah. I can concede that there would be a market and certainly a great return would be expected. But why are we so concerned with fixing what isn't broken? I would explore a trade with Staal assuming he will waive. I would have a plan in place to move Nash at some point to get value on him. Find an alternative to Hayes. Decide if Miller and Kreider are part of the future plans. I do all of that before I worry about the captain.

We are weakest at D. But if you throw Zuccarello out there you get a bunch of posts attacking the idea. Any reason you have to trade McDonagh applies to Zuccarello except he probably won't return a #1 center. He's older, going to look for a bigger contract next time, has big trade value, more likely to break down than mac, and plays a position we are flush in.

I'm not saying Zucc is old, going to ask to break the bank, or definitely going to fall off a cliff physically, but if you can convince yourself McDonagh is susceptible to all of that, you ought to be moving Zuccarello out first.