Speculation: Roster Building Thread DCLXXVIII: Down to the wire!

[Krams]

Woops forgot

I think they just protect Smith.

Am I missing something or can we not protect Smith unless we sign him in the next two hours?

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

By signing Taveras next year??

I will bet you 1000 dollars he won't reach free agency.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

For your 2nd, 3rd and 4th line centers, sure.

Alright. Defense isn't important for a 1st line center

 

[frozenrubber]

I'm a bit surprised they didn't trade Raanta. He was the one guy I felt really strongly would wind up elsewhere before 3PM.

Raanta may be their only hope in not losing Lindberg/Fast.

I'm worried that Fast's injury will be seen as a bonus for Las Vegas to select him.

Vegas can leave Fast off the 23 man roster while he recuperates on IR and gives them time to see who really fits and works in their fledgling lineup. Vegas loses a lot of trade leverage when it's time for roster cut down after training camp as everyone will be eligible for waiver claims.

 

[Cassano]

Shades of Griffin Reinhart

 

[DutchShamrock]

Centers well be hard to come by for Vegas. If they don't get bribed to take raanta by a team wanting to make a trade, I think Lindberg is gone. They can find types like fast.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

I'm a bit surprised they didn't trade Raanta. He was the one guy I felt really strongly would wind up elsewhere before 3PM.

Yup, me too. I thought we might do two deals (or one that killed two birds with one stone): Raanta on the way out because we know we'll lose him; a D on the way in, because the opposing team knew they'd lose their guy.

Oh well.

 

[iamitter]

Why the heck would they waste a protection spot on Smith?

Protect Klein and hope they take Holden. If they do and K2 retires, the've cleared over $4.5M in cap.

I can't imagine vgk takes Klein over Holden given the rumors of his retirement, so it wouldn't make a difference.

In either case, Holden is at max the 4th most valuable asset were exposing. They're not taking him unless we ask them to by giving up a different asset. We're likely giving up the equivalent of a 2nd Rd pick through this expansion draft. Could be a lot worse.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

"Resigned." Meh, the team is way better off than a lot of the competition.

 

[Krams]

Centers well be hard to come by for Vegas. If they don't get bribed to take raanta by a team wanting to make a trade, I think Lindberg is gone. They can find types like fast.

Not to mention, I think VGK selecting Fast is less likely with his hip surgery sidelining him for 5 months. Losing Lindberg worries me for our C depth, especially if Stepan is moved by July 1.

 

[DutchShamrock]

Am I missing something or can we not protect Smith unless we sign him in the next two hours?

You can protect him without signing.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

"Resigned." Meh, the team is way better off than a lot of the competition.

Good, theres no need to cut a deal.

 

[Krams]

You can protect him without signing.

I think that's the obvious move then.

 

[GAGLine]

You can protect him without signing.

We don't need to protect him unless he is signed.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Shades of Griffin Reinhart

Devils just tip their hand as to who they're picking #1?

 

[frozenrubber]

Not to mention, I think VGK selecting Fast is less likely with his hip surgery sidelining him for 5 months. Losing Lindberg worries me for our C depth, especially if Stepan is moved by July 1.

I see the reverse. Golden Knights have to get to a 23 man roster with up to 30 waiver eligible players (not counting any UFAs they sign). Fast on the IR allows them to hold on to him longer and evaulate all options.

 

[Graves94]

"Resigned." Meh, the team is way better off than a lot of the competition.

Or they pick Grabner and move him at the deadline to a contender, for a top pick(s), especially if he has a good year.

 

[JT Kreider]

Alright. Defense isn't important for a 1st line center

Of course it is. But so is scoring 30 goals and/or 60 points, minimum.

 

[Larouche to Bears]

Stepan would be worth more if he could win a draw occasionally

 

[Ola]

Disappointed that we didn't do anything, big loss if Lindberg goes to Vegas in my opinion, many don't agree but reminds me some of the Stralman situation...

But I am putting this on Gorton, by all accounts it seems like he tried. But there is a systematic flaw in how NHL GMs are managed. Just zero pressure on or incentives for GMs to take any risks.

The flurry of action before the ED turned out to be TWO trades excluding Vegas deals. Honestly, from an objective point of view is NHL teams making two trades before the ED a reasonable number? There is all kind of room for teams to wheel and deal, nobody does anything.

 

[Krams]

Stepan would be worth more if he could win a draw occasionally

He was at 47% this past season. It's as close to a non-factor as you can get IMO.

 

[McD37]

Or they pick Grabner and move him at the deadline to a contender, for a top pick(s), especially if he has a good year.

The thing is, there is no guarantee Grabner will have a good year again, especially on Vegas team.

 

[Boruto]

Now we just hope they take holden

 

[DutchShamrock]

We don't need to protect him unless he is signed.

Right but we can't sign him until after the expansion draft in that case. Now we can get moving forward, keep him from testing the market and lock down his spot.

I'm not saying it's a big difference but I would rather sign him now than protect Holden. If we had stolen an eligible d from a desperate team, that's another case.

 

[Krams]

We don't need to protect him unless he is signed.

You don't need to, but it might be a route NYR explores if they want to dangle Holden in hopes that Vegas passes over Lindberg.