Speculation: Roster Building Thread DCLXXVIII: Down to the wire!

[Vinny DeAngelo]

I hope they take Holden then we just walk into the regular draft and pick a dman

 

[Trxjw]

Yup, me too. I thought we might do two deals (or one that killed two birds with one stone): Raanta on the way out because we know we'll lose him; a D on the way in, because the opposing team knew they'd lose their guy.

Oh well.

I guess in the end losing a backup goalie, bottom-six player, or bottom-pairing D isn't the worst thing in the world. Teams probably thought they could get a goalie cheaper from Vegas.

Actually, maybe Vegas getting MAF makes them much less interested in Raanta. They don't need a guy like him because they have a sure fire starter already in Fleury.

 

[Trxjw]

I can't imagine vgk takes Klein over Holden given the rumors of his retirement, so it wouldn't make a difference.

In either case, Holden is at max the 4th most valuable asset were exposing. They're not taking him unless we ask them to by giving up a different asset. We're likely giving up the equivalent of a 2nd Rd pick through this expansion draft. Could be a lot worse.

It would make a difference. By protecting Klein and having him retire, you clear at minimum $2.9M. Then whatever else goes with the contract of the player they take.

 

[Krams]

I could potentially envision a Stepan + Raanta package to ARI if VGK passes over him.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I hope they take Holden then we just walk into the regular draft and pick a dman

I doubt Holden being picked affects what we do in the draft

 

[Krams]

I doubt Holden being picked affects what we do in the draft

This

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Today has been as lame as can be

The Rangers should bride Vegas to take Holden. Give them a prospect to take him. I bet you they want to keep Raanta. If Hank isn't ready to start the season, they'll need him

 

[iamitter]

It would make a difference. By protecting Klein and having him retire, you clear at minimum $2.9M. Then whatever else goes with the contract of the player they take.

I'm not sure I follow you. Klein sounds like he is retiring either way. Why would VGK pick him instead of something they can actually get value for?

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

I'm not sure I follow you. Klein sounds like he is retiring either way. Why would VGK pick him instead of something they can actually get value for?

They won't pick him if he is retiring

Makes no sense. They need assets, picking him just to have him retire gives them nothing

 

[Krams]

I'm not sure I follow you. Klein sounds like he is retiring either way. Why would VGK pick him instead of something they can actually get value for?

I think it was -31- who brought up the possibility of Klein bluffing retirement so Vegas passes over him. I don't know if they were ever going to seriously consider taking him regardless but it's an interesting thought.

 

[Trxjw]

I'm not sure I follow you. Klein sounds like he is retiring either way. Why would VGK pick him instead of something they can actually get value for?

The Rangers have a protection slot to use on defense. Why use it on a player there's actually a chance Vegas would take? It forces Vegas to take a different defender we don't need and therefore the Rangers could theoretically lose Klein to retirement, and lose a guy like Holden to Vegas. Hence clearing more cap room.

It doesn't matter though. They're not taking a defensemen from us regardless.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Can we add a poll to the thread to guess who Vegas will pick?

- Raanta
- Fast
- Lindberg
- Holden
- Klein
- Puempel

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

The Rangers should bride Vegas to take Holden.

Too much of a commitment....

 

[Irishguy42]

I highly doubt a player would bluff retirement for the sole purpose of fooling Vegas.

That is the stupidest thing I have read on this website.

 

[Irishguy42]

Can we add a poll to the thread to guess who Vegas will pick?

- Raanta
- Fast
- Lindberg
- Holden
- Klein
- Puempel

Do it tomorrow after the protection lists are released.

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

I highly doubt a player would bluff retirement for the sole purpose of fooling Vegas.

That is the stupidest thing I have read on this website.

especially when his team didn't even play him much.. wouldn't you want an opportunity?

 

[GAGLine]

The Rangers have a protection slot to use on defense. Why use it on a player there's actually a chance Vegas would take?

Are we required to use that protection slot? We probably will, but it will be interesting to see whether they use it on Klein or Holden. Though I suppose Kampfer is an option too, albeit an unlikely one. Or maybe we just sign Smith and protect him, even though we could wait until after the ED to sign him.

I'm sure the Rangers had a plan to target a dman in trade that they would then protect, but that trade never materialized.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Today has been as lame as can be

The Rangers should bride Vegas to take Holden. Give them a prospect to take him. I bet you they want to keep Raanta. If Hank isn't ready to start the season, they'll need him

Keeping Lindberg/Fast isn't worth a draft pick

 

[GAGLine]

One hour until protection lists are submitted.

 

[cheech70]

Let's start the discussion with Stepan for the 6th pick

add Dumba..done

 

[Cassano]

VGK's defense could look like:

Brodin-Vatanen
Enstrom-Hamonic
Murray-Ceci

Fleury
Raanta

That's better than probably 50% of teams in the NHL

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

VGK's defense could look like:

Brodin-Vatanen
Murray-Hamonic
Holden-Ceci

Fleury
Raanta

That's better than probably 50% of teams in the NHL

How are they getting Holden and Raanta?

And that defense is brutal.

 

[Cassano]

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

VGK's defense could look like:

Brodin-Vatanen
Murray-Hamonic
Holden-Ceci

Fleury
Raanta

That's better than probably 50% of teams in the NHL

????

 

[Ghost of jas]

VGK's defense could look like:

Brodin-Vatanen
Murray-Hamonic
Holden-Ceci

Fleury
Raanta

That's better than probably 50% of teams in the NHL

The Rangers can't lose two players in the expansion draft.