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Speculation: Roster Building/Rumor Thread XIX

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bleeding blue said:
Yeah and one cost 3-5 prime assets and one costs just money….context please Larry
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See, the idea that it's "just money" is stupid.

If a 10m per contract becomes a bad one, that kills a team just about as much as moving a top asset would.

As long as Eichel isn't broken (which we can't gaurentee so it's hard) him at with only 5 years left is probably less of a risk than Mika who will have 8 years of 10 per starting in 22-23.

Getting saddled with a franchise hampering contract is worse than losing a top prospect, IMO.
 
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Damn Veteran D market is really on fire right now. cole? Ceci over 3? Those have to be short term deals for that AAV
 
Glen Sathers Cigar said:
I love how all these deals are being announced before players are technically allowed to talk to teams. Isn't this all tampering technically?
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There is 100% tampering going on but some players like Nemeth were granted permission by their clubs to seek new deals, so some of that is likely as well.
 
Hire Sather said:
See, the idea that it's "just money" is stupid.

If a 10m per contract becomes a bad one, that kills a team just about as much as moving a top asset would.

As long as Eichel isn't broken (which we can't gaurentee so it's hard) him at with only 5 years left is probably less of a risk than Mika who will have 8 years of 10 per starting in 22-23.

Getting saddled with a franchise hampering contract is worse than losing a top prospect, IMO.
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Question to me is, which contract is more likely to be a complete roster bomb 3 years from now. Eichel's risk is primarily medical; if he has serious career limiting health problems, there is a (good?) chance he could be LTIR bound and be manageable. Looking at the historical metric (WAR/xG) trend, injury history, and potential aging progression, Zibanejad IMO has a much higher likelihood of being a cap disaster.

I'd love to believe the NYR will be able to Tampa their way out of everything 3 years from now, but I'm skeptical for a variety of reasons.
 
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R. Smith, Krebs, 1st and Hague is the want. Kinda surprised didn't do that. Did they get to see the medicals?
Strome, Kravtsov, Nils and a first is probably the comparable from us. If it was a healthy Eichel would say that is pretty fair. Especially if you traded Mika for 2 young assets coming back.
 


Brooks isn't wrong, it is not a good situation at all for Drury. You shouldn't put yourself in the situation to be forced to resign core members of your team at that age.

I've said this many times, and not sure if I have been taken seriously (can't blame anyone for that), but for me the obviously solution is to walk away from Ziba and don't trade for Eichel (unless of course Ziba was willing to take an extremely team friendly deal, like 7mx5-6 years). Preferably Ziba should be traded.

Others may disagree and I could be wrong, but IMO, Eichel shouldn't even remotely be an option at cost of acquisition and contract. I seriously mean that there needs to be money retained before Eichel should be considered. We can't invest that much money into a center that won't give us an advantage -- more like a disadvantage -- against the top lines around us. Can Eichel match-up well against Tampa's top line? Against the Perfection line in Boston? Against Aho or Barzal? Hughes made strides this last season, how good will he be when he enters his prime? Matthews? Eichel isn't even strong in those type of match-ups. He is great around the net in the attacking zone. He is certainly -- not -- elite at driving play. 10m per for a center like that? Its never worth it from my POV, and I am not even considering the neck issue which I know nothing about. If Eichel was a UFA and was healthy, I wouldn't want Drury to give him 50m over 5 years. Not with the flat cap and cap issues it will give us. Its like Toronto signing Tavares, sure he has helped them, but I think the cost was too high. Having a Tavares don't win you cups.
 
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The Rangers have to do SOMETHING about their 1C situation. If they don't trade for Eichel, and don't sign Zibanejad, then what? You have this window you're trying to open while you have highly skilled vets in their primes, young and upcoming guys on ELCs, and if you don't have a 1C you're not going anywhere with any of that.

That's the issue they're facing and why the decision being put forth by someone like Brooks is "sign ZIbanejad long term or trade for Eichel". You can't rely on Barkov going to FA just because you like the player. There's no real time to wait for someone to develop into a top C
You can fudge it with the 2 and 3C to some extent but not 1C. Rangers have to figure that out somehow whether it's the two options mentioned or something out of left field
 
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