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Nash and Richards can't get off this team fast enough.

I have seen all I can stomach from these two absolute bozos.

Nash is a total perennial loser with absolutely zero heart and no desire to do anything other than collect his paycheck and through some shots on net.

Richards has to be one of the most disgusting hockey players to ever don the Blueshirt. He is so smug and self serving in his post game interviews, and this is all coming from a guy who spent his lockout drinking wine and tanning on the beach.

NY is a retirement home/country club for players like Nash Richards and MSL. In the case of guys like Richards and MSL they already won their cup, now they just wanna close out there career playing/living in a cool city and getting paid millions upon million of undeserved dollars.

Some of nash's quotes lead me to believe he is doing the must subtle trolling in the history of hockey, or his brain is complete mush as a result of these concussions.
 
slipknottin said:
You really think turnover brad and turnover Msl still have good hockey intelligence?

They both play like ray charles
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They both played like crap.

Richards lost a step a while ago. He wasn't helpful until he became a quasi-passing wing-center for lack of a better word

MSL was in or near the top 10 in scoring before we got him. He may go over the hill soon, but he wasn't crapping out that quickly.

Something is in the water folks, and I don't think it's the fluoride.
 
slipknottin said:
You really think turnover brad and turnover Msl still have good hockey intelligence?

They both play like ray charles
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Richards I don't know. His skills have eroded so much since he got here. I don't think he's a dumb player, I just don't think he has the legs anymore.

MSL on the other hand has surely been a disappointment for us, but if you watched him this season (and over the past decade) you would know he is one of the smartest players in the NHL.

I'm not going to debate this though because it's just too obvious. MSL is a fantastic player who is slumping. I hate the trade and always will unless he takes us to a SCF, but I fully expect him to be a huge supporter next year and in the future.

I seriously am curious, have you guys just watched the 25 or so games MSL has played as a blueshirt? Even this year he was playing amazing on TBL.

It doesn't excuse him from his mediocre play since getting here, but to call him a dumb player....just wow.
 
aufheben said:
Nonetheless, Stepan's production (a titanic 4 pts in 11 games) is right in line with his usual PO production; a concern casually bushed aside during the previous months.
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Yeah, it was worrisome at the end of the first round when Stepan was already nearing his playoff career high in goals scored. He used up almost all his production in the first round. He is a second line center who is forced to play first line due to necessity who ends up producing like a third liner in the playoffs. That's not the type of player who can compete with Crosby, Malkin, Toews, Kopitar, Krejci, etc. He doesn't have the speed to push the pace of the game and he's not physical so he just sort of gets snuffed out in the playoffs.
 
AHB said:
Richards I don't know. His skills have eroded so much since he got here. I don't think he's a dumb player, I just don't think he has the legs anymore.

MSL on the other hand has surely been a disappointment for us, but if you watched him this season (and over the past decade) you would know he is one of the smartest players in the NHL.

I'm not going to debate this though because it's just too obvious. MSL is a fantastic player who is slumping. I hate the trade and always will unless he takes us to a SCF, but I fully expect him to be a huge supporter next year and in the future.

I seriously am curious, have you guys just watched the 25 or so games MSL has played as a blueshirt? Even this year he was playing amazing on TBL.

It doesn't excuse him from his mediocre play since getting here, but to call him a dumb player....just wow.
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At what point is it no longer considered slumping and is to be there new level of play?

It's all well and good that he used to play well, but it's irrelevant as well as we continue on with him not even being able to complete a pass
 
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Riverdale said:
Nash thought he had a good post-season last year. From his post-game comments yesterday he thinks the Boos were just because of the SHG.

DOES he know he is playing bad overall? Jesus christ, it is like this guy doesn't have a clue.
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Yes, people should really read that or watch the interview. The guy is absolutely clueless. I hope we get back to MSG just so the crowd can boo him from the start so he gets that they're booing his Rangers playoff career, not one particular ****-up.
 
haveandare said:
No. It's "ok" because you're not screaming them to their face while they're on the ice trying to play. In fact, I'd bet very nearly 100% of the criticisms people level here are never seen, heard, or thought of by the players they're directed at.

You have a "right" to do many, many things that are just stupid and/or careless to do. Nobody is arguing that people aren't allowed to boo players. The question is, in my opinion - what are you trying to accomplish? And how on earth do you think booing is going to accomplish it? If you just want to make a stranger who isn't living up to your athletic standards feel bad, then boo away, because you will accomplish that task. If you want that player to be better, 9 times out of 10, booing is counterproductive, because people who respond well to heated criticism are few and far between.

And no, I don't yell or curse or boo the TV because it's a sports game being played by practical strangers miles and miles away. It's not worth the emotional investment IMO. I hope they win, yes. I'd like to see them succeed, yes. If they lose, they lose. I decided to watch, and I can almost always find some entertainment in the progression of players' and franchises' stories.

Also, you're not a buffoon by going to a game if you want to go to a game. You're staying home has done absolutely nothing to hurt Sather or Dolan or their bottom line. If you think it's worth staying home just to save yourself the money, that's fine, and I agree 99 times out of 100. But what on earth do you care about other people going to a game and enjoying themselves? "If everyone stayed home, we'd show them!" Yeah, if everyone did a lot of things we'd accomplish a lot of things. But they don't. And we don't. And such is life.

Bottom line, Nash hasn't been nearly good enough in the playoffs. He knows it. You can see it and hear it in everything he does and says. People can boo him if they want. If it's just about some catharsis for yourself, go wild I guess. I wouldn't, but everyone is free to decide for themselves. But, if you wanna light a fire under him, think about it for a second because it seems obvious to me that the fire he's trying to light under himself isn't going to get bigger as 20K fans boo him.
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You said way too much here and a lot of it like "What do you care if people go and cheer" misses the points I made so it's hard for me to address your misconceptions of what I was saying. plus I'm lazy as ******* and don't feel all that strongly about it.

By giving money you are supporting the product. By booing while there you are showing you do not support the product. Hence why I said it's moronic to boo when you are there. On the same token it's been record setting bad these last 4 games so in these extreme circumstances where records are set for poor play I don't blame anyone for booing while there

I also disagree with someone who spews venom on this site or while at home yet pretends to be high and mighty and denounce the folks at the arena who boo'd. Booing isn't that big of a deal. If they can't get over being booed when they deserve it then too bad for them. These aren't people finding Nash on twitter and calling him a piece of garbage like anonymous cowards these are just boos.

We pay the money, we're the boss, we can give a bad score on a performance evaluation. That's what the boos are. He's not losing his livelihood.

Also if half of what I said doesn't apply to you then you shouldn't have really responded to it...
 
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Rich Nash - 23 playoff games with the Rangers, one playoff goal.

Ron Hextall - one playoff goal with the Flyers.

It's a tie ball game...
 
Hey, everyone. Please keep the conversation in here about Rick Nash. For discussion about Martin St. Louis, please use that thread. Thanks.
 
Megustaelhockey said:
Hey, everyone. Please keep the conversation in here about Rick Nash. For discussion about Martin St. Louis, please use that thread. Thanks.
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Sorry, went on a reactionary tangent to a "MSL is dumb" comment. Its ludacris. Now, if you were to say Nash is dumb, I don't think you'd have as much of an argument.

Nash has the speed and skill to afford to be dumb and remain productive. Is it any wonder why he's falling apart when he doesn't have the same amount of time and space in the playoffs? Smart players think the game faster. They create when its not there. Nash doesn't think ahead, he's a purely reactionary player.

Not that I should compare their skill, but I think of Ovie in the same manner. Pure raw skill, but has dust between the ears. I've always felt you can't win with these types of players as you primary weapons.

I'm just disappointed to find out Nash real is that type of player. Unless we find a C that can create that kind of space for Nash (very rare) he simply won't fit here.
 
This guy deserves all the boos and more. With his talent and size he should be on the same level of Crosby and Malkin. He lacks drive, competitiveness, and the heart required to be on that level. It's just simply mind-boggling that he has nothing in these playoffs.

Personally I'm sick of the little spurts you see out of him, highlight reel goals once every 4 games, actual heart against Columbus and the Dallas GWG, and the fact that Team Canada uses him as a defensive specialist. Why can't all this be molded into every shift, every game?

Too bad if he doesn't like the boos. He gets paid 7.8 million to be a complete joke in the most important time of the year. Until he gets this let the boos rain down on him.
 
Per the boos: I don't think the fans should boo a player from their own team just because they don't like him (Malik and Rozy booings were ridiculous), at least not in every situation all the time. However, when a player is a complete no show in the playoffs and the team is down, then he deserves every single boo he gets.
 
jniklast said:
Per the boos: I don't think the fans should boo a player from their own team just because they don't like him (Malik and Rozy booings were ridiculous), at least not in every situation all the time. However, when a player is a complete no show in the playoffs and the team is down, then he deserves every single boo he gets.
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Bingo. There is a huge difference between underperforming and straight up not showing up. Nash has not shown up, minus a few spurts here and there, for 23 playoff games.

He deserves everything the fans throw at him, and if he needs us to coddle him in order to get him to perform he is not a professional.
 
I don't mind when players struggle. It's rough, and it's frustrating, but you can empathize. We've all struggled.

Rick Nash is something else. I'm almost hoping he's injured, and we're all terrible people for ragging on him the way we are, because he's been so dreadful that I'M looking for an excuse for him.

How do you rationalize a player of his history and caliber failing so entirely? It would be one thing if he had hit a post every night, or was driving the net, wow-ing us the way he did at times last year.

Rick Nash has all the tools, and one hell of a toolbox. But the lack of effort, the failure to attempt to find another gear, the REFUSAL to push the pace is near unforgivable. Players like Dubinsky, Hagelin, and others may struggle. They may appear to be impossibly frustrated, or like they forgot half of their skills. But they still engage.

Nash has improved from not engaging all game, to 1 or 2 shifts per game. This is so far from good enough that it's not funny. When player the size of Zuccarello and MSL are more physical, and engaged than Rick Nash, with THAT frame of his (seriously, the guy's build and reach are practically cheating), it's the reddest of flags. He has responded somewhat, throwing the body occasionally this series (I enjoyed his hit on Crosby), but again, it's spot picking. It's not enough.

His refusal to compete hasn't just killed his effectiveness as a 1st line star, but it's made him near ineffective in EVERY ASPECT OF THE GAME. He's not just failing to score, but he's a turnover machine (even worse, in all 3 zones), he neglects to drive to the net, open up the space, his forechecking and skating now resemble Derek Stepan, and while his defense is MARGINALLY better than it has been, he still has more than a few controller disconnected moments.


That's why I'm furious. Yes, he's a scorer. He gets paid to provide offense, and he has failed miserably in that category. What makes him unbearable is his failure to attempt to make up for that in any other area of play. Bluntly: When you're an 8 million dollar scorer who isn't scoring, you better be killing yourself working to make up for it in every other aspect of the game.
 
Rangers management set up one guy to be the go to offensive player.... again...


And all bozos yell and scream at him for not scoring in the playoffs. ..

When the opposition focuses on shutting down that one player...

The same way our defense shuts down other top players. ..

Let's trade him for a first and grow our own in 5yrs...

When Lindquist retires....
 
gmerger37 said:
And scarier still, Dan Carcillo + Dominic Moore + Boyle have scored as many goals as Nash+ Richards+MSL.

Let that sink in for a minute.
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But the worst part about that is, secondary scoring like that should have this team cruising. If stars didn't come here to die (or if whatever happens to them just didn't happen) the Rangers would be a great team with the contributions they have been getting from the depth. Just another frustration in a seemingly endless stream of them.
 
NikC said:
Rangers management set up one guy to be the go to offensive player.... again...


And all bozos yell and scream at him for not scoring in the playoffs. ..

When the opposition focuses on shutting down that one player...

The same way our defense shuts down other top players. ..

Let's trade him for a first and grow our own in 5yrs...

When Lindquist retires....
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False. What is MSL supposed to be?
 
Synergy27 said:
But the worst part about that is, secondary scoring like that should have this team cruising. If stars didn't come here to die (or if whatever happens to them just didn't happen) the Rangers would be a great team with the contributions they have been getting from the depth. Just another frustration in a seemingly endless stream of them.
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Yeah didn't even think about it but your exactly right, for years we were top heavy and had no scoring depth. This year we have a great third and fourth line, but our top 6 did a vanishing act, with Ricky Nash leading the way.

Only can happen to the rangers.
 
NikC said:
Rangers management set up one guy to be the go to offensive player.... again...


And all bozos yell and scream at him for not scoring in the playoffs. ..

When the opposition focuses on shutting down that one player...

The same way our defense shuts down other top players. ..

Let's trade him for a first and grow our own in 5yrs...

When Lindquist retires....
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When you misspell Lundqvist it really takes away from how the rest of the post is utter and complete nonsense.
 
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