Raptors Discussion: REPORT: Raptors trade DeRozan, Poeltl, Protected 1st to Spurs for Leonard, Green

[Cloned]

You're calling Massai stupid when you don't know the facts.

I didn't call him stupid. I replied to a poster concerned about Kawhi not committing here and said Masai WOULD be stupid if he made the trade without a commitment BUT that given his trade history it was unlikely.

Context.

 

[mapleleafs34]

I think there's a pretty good chance we flip Kawhi to the Lakers. Think about it, both the Spurs and Lakers didn't want to trade their players within the conference so T.O. is the middleman that allows the Lakers to give up their young players to Toronto instead of San Antonio.

 

[Skolman]

This shouldn't have made me laugh, kid actually looks like Kawhi



Also a good one for you Leafs fans

 

[Puckstuff]

I didn't call him stupid. I replied to a poster concerned about Kawhi not committing here and said Masai WOULD be stupid if he made the trade without a commitment BUT that given his trade history it was unlikely.

Context.

This was your statement:

"If Masai is stupid enough to trade DD for a player who he hasn't got a commitment from to at least show up and play, he deserves to be fired"

I don't think Massai is stupid to trade DD (not even an Allstar in the West) for Leonard (a top 5 player on the planet) despite a commitment

This opens up huge opportunities for us including going for an eastern conference title or flipping KL to L.A

 

[inthe6ix]

The Raptors litterally just won 59 games and we just upgraded our best player position.
If Khawi signs with L.A over Toronto he is leaving $50,000,000 on the table.

So many scenarios could play out; including FLIPPING Khawi. so let's wait before anyone calls Massai stupid.

This is what we know

1) We were not going to beat Boston with Derozan and co.
2) Khawi is a top 5 player in the game and gives us a chance to go for it. If you can get a top 5 player; you do it.
3) We can actually flip Khawi to L.A if we choose.
4) If it doesn't work out; we start the rebuild earlier!!! This is so important.

I personally think this is brilliant. Massai has never lost a deal. I think he really proved him self. If all he did was added in 1 of Sikiam/OG this is a huggeeeeeee win in my view. People are being a tad emotional.

Yes, lots of scenarios - but the elephant in the room includes one where Leonard sulks for coming over, gets magically re-injured and sits on the shelf diminishing his trade value at the deadline and we lose DD, our youth and prospects for nothing.

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

Yes, lots of scenarios - but the elephant in the room includes one where Leonard sulks for coming over, gets magically re-injured and sits on the shelf diminishing his trade value at the deadline and we lose DD, our youth and prospects for nothing.

Has a deal, in principal, been leaked yet?

 

[Cor]

Has a deal, in principal, been leaked yet?

No.

Just DeMar for Kahwi, with the deal being larger on both sides

 

[Cloned]

This was your statement:

"If Masai is stupid enough to trade DD for a player who he hasn't got a commitment from to at least show up and play, he deserves to be fired"

I don't think Massai is stupid to trade DD (not even an Allstar in the West) for Leonard (a top 5 player on the planet) despite a commitment

This opens up huge opportunities for us including going for an eastern conference title or flipping KL to L.A

I also then responded to DJQ about flipping Kawhi to LA and agreed that it was also a strong possibility. You should read the most recent posts before jumping all over somebody.

I mean, I actually trust Masai to do the right things.

 

[Puckstuff]

Yes, lots of scenarios - but the elephant in the room includes one where Leonard sulks for coming over, gets magically re-injured and sits on the shelf diminishing his trade value at the deadline and we lose DD, our youth and prospects for nothing.

Do you think he is going to sit out 2 years in a row and significantly reduce his market value? If he does that, he may be the stupidest player in professional sports.

 

[Cloned]

You're calling Massai stupid and that he should be fired when you don't know the facts. That is literally the definition of being emotional not logical

You need to understand the difference between what I was responding to and making an actual statement about firing him. I support Masai FFS.

 

[inthe6ix]

Has a deal, in principal, been leaked yet?

Woj already stated only in principle with the trade being larger on both sides:

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Toronto has reached agreement in principle to acquire San Antonio's Kawhi Leonard for package that includes DeMar DeRozan, league sources tell ESPN. Trade is larger on both sides, and players are still being informed of their inclusion in the deal. Trade call with league today.

We aren't getting Leonard 1-for-1 so it's going to hurt even more by the end of the day, let's see how much more.

 

[Puckstuff]

I also then responded to DJQ about flipping Kawhi to LA and agreed that it was also a strong possibility. You should read the most recent posts before jumping all over somebody.

I mean, I actually trust Masai to do the right things.

Not jumping on you bro! Just stating facts

 

[Cloned]

Not jumping on you bro! Just stating facts

You jumped all over my post without understanding it. I basically told the guy I quoted NOT to worry because he has never lost a major trade.

 

[Puckstuff]

WTF have I woken up to?

THE END OF AN ERA !!

 

[Cor]

I really wish @Cloned would stop hating on Masai

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

No.

Just DeMar for Kahwi, with the deal being larger on both sides

Thank you, Cor.

Woj already stated only in principle with the trade being larger on both sides:



We aren't getting Leonard 1-for-1 so it's going to hurt even more by the end of the day, let's see how much more.

It was stated many a time in here that it could not be a 1 for 1 given the difference in cap number.

 

[Cloned]

I really wish @Cloned would stop hating on Masai

I hate him like I hate money and sex.

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

I really wish @Cloned would stop hating on Masai

He's really not. There's some context lacking there.

He's kind of illustrating how stupid the deal is when viewed in a vacuum, and pointing to the fact that there's more than likely a few other dominos.

 

[inthe6ix]

Do you think he is going to sit out 2 years in a row and significantly reduce his market value? If he does that, he may be the stupidest player in professional sports.

Based on how he handled his injury last season after Pop and Parker made comments about his drawn out recovery? Yes, I could see that happening if he's pissed off about coming here. I have no doubt in my mind that he was perfectly healthy after being cleared by their team staff to play, but that he wanted to stick it to them because he's the superstar prima dona who should never be questioned.

We'll see.

 

[Cor]

He's really not. There's some context lacking there.

He's kind of illustrating how stupid the deal is when viewed in a vacuum, and pointing to the fact that there's more than likely a few other dominos.

(I know, I was trying to be funny)

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[Cloned]

(I know, I was trying to be funny)

Don't worry, I knew you were being sarcastic, hence my response.

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

Fanbase (May 8th 2018): "Culture Change!!!!!!"

Fanbase (June 25th 2018): "How could they fire the coach of the year and not change the players???!?!?!? Its not his fault, it was there's!!!!!"

Fanbase (July 18th 2018):

"Demar....."

 

[Cloned]

tbh though there's a chance now that Lowry gets shipped out too. He's pretty close with DD and depending on the nature of the conversation between them, I can see KL asking for a trade. Might be time for an actual culture reset.

 

[Morgs]

Danny Green apparently in the trade.