RD Moritz Seider (2019, 6th, DET) Part 3

[Preposterone]

The thing with point numbers is obviously that for Dmen they're incredibly tied to PP time. Like, if you only care about points fantasy style, you're better off with Adam Foote with a ton of PP time than Ray Bourque without any. With 4 forward PPs becoming standard, I'm curious about how much PP time a guy like Sender will get, not because he's bad at PPs but because Detroit might just have some bottom pairing offensive D around who can do most of what Seider does and rest him for harder minutes. Projecting points is really tough.

From seeing him in international play, I'm surprised he scored so many goals this season, but his puck skills and wrister absolutely belong on a PP. From that POV, I like the McAvoy comparison. His size and physical play may have some people thinking Shea Weber, but imo Seider's ways to create offense will be more subtle.

This is a great point. Detroit only has Hronek and Cholowski in the system as legit NHL PP guys, so Seider should get serious PP time right away.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

The thing with point numbers is obviously that for Dmen they're incredibly tied to PP time. Like, if you only care about points fantasy style, you're better off with Adam Foote with a ton of PP time than Ray Bourque without any. With 4 forward PPs becoming standard, I'm curious about how much PP time a guy like Sender will get, not because he's bad at PPs but because Detroit might just have some bottom pairing offensive D around who can do most of what Seider does and rest him for harder minutes. Projecting points is really tough.

From seeing him in international play, I'm surprised he scored so many goals this season, but his puck skills and wrister absolutely belong on a PP. From that POV, I like the McAvoy comparison. His size and physical play may have some people thinking Shea Weber, but imo Seider's ways to create offense will be more subtle.

I can see him having the same offensive impact as someone like McAvoy; 35-45 points with maybe a couple of seasons flirting with or above 50 points while being stellar in his own end.

Seider is going to unfairly be tasked with 1st pair shut down duties as soon as he sets foot in the league, though. I'm hoping that his first two or three seasons in Detroit doesn't break him like Dahlin looks to be broken from playing in Buffalo.

 

[NuxFan09]

We wings fans can definitely go overboard on the hype but its nice that other fans can recognize this kids potential

Would be hard not too! Kid's an absolute stud by all measures.

 

[Christoph53]

Posting this here too
A few clips of commentators, experts, coaches and Moritz himself talking about his play in the SHL this year (from youtube channel IceHockeyGifs)

 

[smokes lets go]

Wings would be smart to get a veteran, defenisvely reliable LD to pair with him next year. don't need to throw big term/$ but a guy like ian cole (michigan native too) or Ryan Murray would be a solid add. I dont know if Staal/Nemeth/Merrill would suffice.

 

[GettingYourMoms]

best player outside of nhl

 

[Sweetpotato]

Wings would be smart to get a veteran, defenisvely reliable LD to pair with him next year. don't need to throw big term/$ but a guy like ian cole (michigan native too) or Ryan Murray would be a solid add. I dont know if Staal/Nemeth/Merrill would suffice.

Murray would be a fantastic partner for him.

 

[JohnLennon]

So what's the current plan with Seider? Do we know if anyone has said what they want to do with him for this hockey season once SHL finishes?

 

[Pavels Dog]

So what's the current plan with Seider? Do we know if anyone has said what they want to do with him for this hockey season once SHL finishes?

He is playing for one of the favorites to win the SHL championship. If they have a long playoff run there won't be time to go over to NA to play for Detroit this season. That's basically all we know.

 

[SoundAndFury]

Yeah, it seems very unlikely his season would end before Detroit's.

Basically, Rogle needs to drop out of PO in the first round which isn't completely impossible since they will most likely play Frolunda (that are stronger than position in standings would indicate) but still, very unlikely.

 

[deca guard]

 

[Pavels Dog]

 

[DInTheB]

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Rogle swept Frolunda. Seider limited to 1 assist in 4 games... But also +6 and Frolunda scored a whopping 3 goals in four games.

 

[Reddwit]

“Coaches could tell him “don’t do that again” and it’d never happen again.”

What an endorsement.

 

[Reddwit]

That was actually similar to one of Lidstrom’s classic moves - step up on the offensive blue line and, instead of stepping into the body, he’d bat the puck back as the forward tried to chip it past him. Would always keep possession going for the Wings.

It’s impressive how good Seider already is at picking his spots.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

“Coaches could tell him “don’t do that again” and it’d never happen again.”

What an endorsement.

Where was this said?

 

[Reddwit]

Where was this said?

In the video a couple posts above. That’s only 1 of like 10 incredible comments about this kid from his coaches, commentators (one being Nik Kronwall’s brother), veteran players, etc.

This kid’s IQ is off the charts.

 

[Realgud]

“Coaches could tell him “don’t do that again” and it’d never happen again.”

What an endorsement.

That's one sign of true intelligence. Learning from your mistakes and actively try not to repeat them, ever. That obviously goes beyond hockey, too.

 

[TheMule93]

 

[newfy]

They recognised who was the best d on that pairing between him and Gelinas clearly

 

[Realgud]

They recognised who was the best d on that pairing between him and Gelinas clearly

Also, unlike the NHL, they know how to evaluate DEFENSEmen, not just look at points lol.

 

[Barry Amsterdam]

he’s gonna be a top dman in the league very very quickly upon arrival

 

[EXTRAS]

Also, unlike the NHL, they know how to evaluate DEFENSEmen, not just look at points lol.

Funny. Joel Persson was pretty bad at the defense side of things in his short North American stint.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Is that Henrik's brother or someone else with the name? If it's Henrik's brother that should be "Lundqvist".