Speculation: Raymond Seider Contract Speculation

[Indrid Cold]

Look at Deadmonton. They just lost two young players to offer sheets, because their cap is poop shticked. All the more reason to get these two signings done right.

 

[Henkka]

Could Mo and Ray get offers from other teams?
If so Yzerman have to match it

Yes. Anyone can offer-sheet them.

Probably no one has cap space to offer-sheet them.

 

[lilidk]

Mat Beniers just got 5x 7.14 .

 

[Our Lady Peace]

Mat Beniers just got 5x 7.14 .

7 years × $7.14m actually

Great deal for them

 

[Henkka]

7 years × $7.14m actually

Great deal for them

Don't know is it a great deal for 37-point player. But evolving hockey formula nailed this.

Their estimation was 7.056M for 7 years.

 

[Our Lady Peace]

Don't know is it a great deal for 37-point player. But evolving hockey formula nailed this.

Their estimation was 7.056M for 7 years.

He had a sophomore slump just like Raymond and everyone now, just like they did with Raymond, are down on the player

Fair play due to the down year, but the player Beniers has enough of a track record to chalk it up as "going down with the sinking ship" that Seattle was last year. Raymond had that kind of track record and that's why I was optimistic he just needed another season to behind hitting his potential

I have no doubt he will be a #1C for a long time in this league and that payday will be a very nice one especially cap %-wise for the Kraken

 

[Henkka]

He had a sophomore slump just like Raymond and everyone now, just like they did with Raymond, are down on the player

Fair play due to the down year, but the player Beniers has enough of a track record to chalk it up as "going down with the sinking ship" that Seattle was last year. Raymond had that kind of track record and that's why I was optimistic he just needed another season to behind hitting his potential

I have no doubt he will be a #1C for a long time in this league and that payday will be a very nice one especially cap %-wise for the Kraken

I still would never pay for potential.

So many of these guys won't live though it.

Beniers as a 37-point guy. Lundell had 33- and 35-point seasons in-a-row.

That's Andrew Copp -level of scoring in nowadays high-scoring game.

 

[lilidk]

Don't know is it a great deal for 37-point player. But evolving hockey formula nailed this.

Their estimation was 7.056M for 7 years.

He is a center, I d trade Raymond for him in the heart beat

 

[norrisnick]

He is a center, I d trade Raymond for him in the heart beat

So's Andrew Copp.

There are gaps in the level of play that position alone can't bridge.

 

[SirloinUB]

He is a center, I d trade Raymond for him in the heart beat

I like Beniers but I am glad you're not running the team.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

He is a center, I d trade Raymond for him in the heartbeat

Yeah...

No...

 

[Geezer WC]

Yzerman ain't doing that, my guy.

Yzerman was a player too. He knows that if it is clear he monkeyed with Seider's deployment to soften the hit that it would spread like wildfire and he'd lose all credibility.

Yet it kind of looked that way, playing Ghost on #1 pp. I don't see the reason for not letting Mo continue his development as the QB on the pp.

 

[Ulysses31]

if berniers ins 7mil on a 7 year whats raymond worth for 7 years, hes not a centre but more talented? 7x7.5? 7x8?

 

[Henkka]

if berniers ins 7mil on a 7 year whats raymond worth for 7 years, hes not a centre but more talented? 7x7.5? 7x8?

Beniers is not much Raymond comparable, but I took these from evolving-hockey:

Beniers estimate, 7 years, 7.056M (pretty close)
Raymond estimate, 7 years, 7.766M

 

[Indrid Cold]

Beniers is not much Raymond comparable, but I took these from evolving-hockey:

Beniers estimate, 7 years, 7.056M (pretty close)
Raymond estimate, 7 years, 7.766M

Make it a clean 8.0M and get the MF signed.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

I keep logging in hoping to see the two deals done...let's go SY

 

[JediOrderPizza]

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Look at Deadmonton. They just lost two young players to offer sheets, because their cap is poop shticked. All the more reason to get these two signings done right.

Edmonton lost two depth level players (At least currently) because they have much bigger contracts coming up in the next year. (Drai, Bouchard, and McDavid)

Seider and Raymond are Detroit's much bigger contracts. The only player in the organization that stands a chance of getting a big contract before 27-28 is Edvinsson.

These are not even close to the same situation which is why nobody's offer sheeting either player. Any contract/compensation a team would be willing to offer Detroit likely accepts and thanks the team for. Then they keep them in mind when that team has an RFA coming up.

 

[The Real Pastafarian]

I'm sure someone has already asked this question but:

Is there any chance that one or both of these guys is already signed, and Stevie's just keeping the details quiet?

Or are there reporting requirements, that they must report this signing publicly within, say, 24 hours?

I doubt that there are any other comparable RFAs out there still unsigned, so I'm not sure how the knowledge of our contract details might help another team, but when you're playing poker, you (almost) never voluntarily show your cards, even if you can't think of a way that the information helps your opponent. It's better to leave it to their imagination.

 

[norrisnick]

Contracts need to be filed with the league to be official. No way to keep that silent unless you don't file it. It's possible there are agreements in place just waiting for all parties to be in Detroit, but I doubt it.

 

[Game suspension]

So the Seider deal is apparently close but the Raymond deal is pretty far apart ?

 

[OneMoreTry]

I keep logging in hoping to see the two deals done...let's go SY

Same here. Login - nothing new - logout.

 

[ShanahanMan]

I might be crazy and reading into things but pretty sure both removed Red Wings mention from their Instagram bios.

 

[Konnan511]

So the Seider deal is apparently close but the Raymond deal is pretty far apart ?

Source?

 

[JediOrderPizza]

Source?

Curious myself, I found it. It's eklund...

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