Indrid Cold
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Look at Deadmonton. They just lost two young players to offer sheets, because their cap is poop shticked. All the more reason to get these two signings done right.
Speculation: Raymond Seider Contract Speculation
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Henkka
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Don't know is it a great deal for 37-point player. But evolving hockey formula nailed this.
Their estimation was 7.056M for 7 years.
Our Lady Peace
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He had a sophomore slump just like Raymond and everyone now, just like they did with Raymond, are down on the player
Fair play due to the down year, but the player Beniers has enough of a track record to chalk it up as "going down with the sinking ship" that Seattle was last year. Raymond had that kind of track record and that's why I was optimistic he just needed another season to behind hitting his potential
I have no doubt he will be a #1C for a long time in this league and that payday will be a very nice one especially cap %-wise for the Kraken
Henkka
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I still would never pay for potential.
So many of these guys won't live though it.
Beniers as a 37-point guy. Lundell had 33- and 35-point seasons in-a-row.
That's Andrew Copp -level of scoring in nowadays high-scoring game.
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He is a center, I d trade Raymond for him in the heart beat
norrisnick
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So's Andrew Copp.
There are gaps in the level of play that position alone can't bridge.
I like Beniers but I am glad you're not running the team.
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Yet it kind of looked that way, playing Ghost on #1 pp. I don't see the reason for not letting Mo continue his development as the QB on the pp.
Ulysses31
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if berniers ins 7mil on a 7 year whats raymond worth for 7 years, hes not a centre but more talented? 7x7.5? 7x8?
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Beniers is not much Raymond comparable, but I took these from evolving-hockey:
Beniers estimate, 7 years, 7.056M (pretty close)
Raymond estimate, 7 years, 7.766M
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JediOrderPizza
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Edmonton lost two depth level players (At least currently) because they have much bigger contracts coming up in the next year. (Drai, Bouchard, and McDavid)
Seider and Raymond are Detroit's much bigger contracts. The only player in the organization that stands a chance of getting a big contract before 27-28 is Edvinsson.
These are not even close to the same situation which is why nobody's offer sheeting either player. Any contract/compensation a team would be willing to offer Detroit likely accepts and thanks the team for. Then they keep them in mind when that team has an RFA coming up.
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I'm sure someone has already asked this question but:
Is there any chance that one or both of these guys is already signed, and Stevie's just keeping the details quiet?
Or are there reporting requirements, that they must report this signing publicly within, say, 24 hours?
I doubt that there are any other comparable RFAs out there still unsigned, so I'm not sure how the knowledge of our contract details might help another team, but when you're playing poker, you (almost) never voluntarily show your cards, even if you can't think of a way that the information helps your opponent. It's better to leave it to their imagination.
Is there any chance that one or both of these guys is already signed, and Stevie's just keeping the details quiet?
Or are there reporting requirements, that they must report this signing publicly within, say, 24 hours?
I doubt that there are any other comparable RFAs out there still unsigned, so I'm not sure how the knowledge of our contract details might help another team, but when you're playing poker, you (almost) never voluntarily show your cards, even if you can't think of a way that the information helps your opponent. It's better to leave it to their imagination.
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Contracts need to be filed with the league to be official. No way to keep that silent unless you don't file it. It's possible there are agreements in place just waiting for all parties to be in Detroit, but I doubt it.
ShanahanMan
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I might be crazy and reading into things but pretty sure both removed Red Wings mention from their Instagram bios.
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Curious myself, I found it. It's eklund...
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