Player Discussion Rasmus Dahlin Part 4 - D (1st Overall, 2018, Frölunda HC, SHL)

[tsujimoto74]

I love how one of the guys who guests on The PDOCast talked about how they were directed by the Stars to play up a rivalry between the two, to manufacture sides.

Lol weird. I mean it seems to have worked for Stars fan because a portion of them now brigade every single Dahlin thread, but I still couldn’t care less.

 

[Dubi Doo]

Lol weird. I mean it seems to have worked for Stars fan because a portion of them now brigade every single Dahlin thread, but I still couldn’t care less.

Stars fans are happy with their guy, I'm happy with our guy!

 

[Aladyyn]

I love how one of the guys who guests on The PDOCast talked about how they were directed by the Stars to play up a rivalry between the two, to manufacture sides.

I thought it was just the crazy Finns on here, guess not

 

[Zach716]

I thought it was just the crazy Finns on here, guess not

It’s mostly Fin insecurity complex.

 

[MarkusKetterer]

It’s mostly Fin insecurity complex.

Those FICkers!

 

[Dirty Dog]

I’m all fairness, it’s only like 8 stars fans that do it and five Finnish fans (though there’s an overlap between the two!). But yea, I don’t see any Sabres fans or Swedish fans who care

 

[BG82]

Has Dahlin extension been confirmed ? Hearing 8 years 80 million

 

[Duddy]

Can't be officially be signed until 7/1.

 

[Uberpecker]

I was today years old when I finally Googled what TL;DR means. I hope this ain’t the beginning of being old and having to translate internet acronyms and young-people language.

8x10 sounds great. I was hoping he’d go for under 10 but I also look at it from Dahlin’s side … the difference between 9.9 and 10 is huge psychologically for him. Either way, I suspect we are getting a great deal.

Happens to all of us sooner or later.
I remember the first time feeling old as early as age 21. It really was a memorable moment though when my elementary school teacher handed me that final report card.

As for Dahlin's contract I'm quite satisfied, actually. With the cap expected to go up and him only getting better this could look like a real steal very soon.

 

[LongWayDown37]

I had unrealistic dreams of Dahlin taking $7.5 - $9 aav.. Not because I'm worried about him being higher - but, along with Tage, Sammy and Cozens, it sort of sets unnofficial bars for future contracts that might shave $.5 - $1 off of several other future deals. We saw the rare occurance of this with the Bruins of the last decade (until Pasta broke the bank).

$10M will be fine and will probably still be a good deal, ultimately. Want to see Adams continue to lock up the right players with smart, long contracts.

 

[Zach716]

I had unrealistic dreams of Dahlin taking $7.5 - $9 aav.. Not because I'm worried about him being higher - but, along with Tage, Sammy and Cozens, it sort of sets unnofficial bars for future contracts that might shave $.5 - $1 off of several other future deals. We saw the rare occurance of this with the Bruins of the last decade (until Pasta broke the bank).

$10M will be fine and will probably still be a good deal, ultimately. Want to see Adams continue to lock up the right players with smart, long contracts.

I read somewhere that Dahlin could be valued at 12.7m per based on some algo projection. That’s a pretty solid 2.7 shaved off, especially taking into account cap stagnation due to the pandemic and future increases.

 

[Chainshot]

I read somewhere that Dahlin could be valued at 12.7m per based on some algo projection. That’s a pretty solid 2.7 shaved off, especially taking into account cap stagnation due to the pandemic and future increases.

I believe that's the Athletic player card price for last season.

 

[SackTastic]

I believe that's the Athletic player card price for last season.

Yup. That's Dom's Meaningless Number Combination for Dahls.

 

[TageGod]

I was always under impression that #1 D was worth more than the #1C since they are out literally half the game and can drive both offense and D. The Fox group of D feel underpaid so even Dahlin coming out on top feels like a steal.

 

[Reddawg]

Yup. That's Dom's Meaningless Number Combination for Dahls.

Oh great, now "the model" is going to have a negative opinion of our roster again.

 

[Aladyyn]

I was always under impression that #1 D was worth more than the #1C since they are out literally half the game and can drive both offense and D. The Fox group of D feel underpaid so even Dahlin coming out on top feels like a steal.

Pretty much all the models agree that forwards are generally bigger drivers of success but the absolute top top guys like Fox/Makar/Dahlin are on that level and probably should be paid accordingly. 10M for mostly UFA years is an incredible deal for us.

 

[Faceboner]

I said it before and i will say it again he is datsyuk on defense the way he breaks ankles with just his shifty and deceptive body movement is extremely reminiscent never mind the insane hands and vision

 

[Jim Bob]

 

[Faceboner]

Some his most jaw dropping plays won't even make it into the highlights even though they are filthy

 

[Chainshot]

I said it before and i will say it again he is datsyuk on defense the way he breaks ankles with just his shifty and deceptive body movement is extremely reminiscent never mind the insane hands and vision

He does things to get separation and generate space for himself in his own zone like no one I have ever watched play defense. His work along the wall in the d-zone has artistry to it that doesn't land on the scoresheet yet is still capable of having me "wow" out loud a number of times per game.

 

[Push Dr Tracksuit]

Pretty much all the models agree that forwards are generally bigger drivers of success but the absolute top top guys like Fox/Makar/Dahlin are on that level and probably should be paid accordingly. 10M for mostly UFA years is an incredible deal for us.

My belief, it’s largely because the models are bad.

 

[Game suspension]

It will be an interesting contract to watch. I am still in the trade Dahlin camp. I just don't think he is worth $10 mil plus relative to TNT's contract and the Sabres have a lot of young talent coming. Add that to the fact the trade value would be huge. Sabres can ask for the world.

 

[tsujimoto74]

Lol you want to trade a franchise defenseman at the beginning of his prime because he’s going to be paid like the elite D he is? How do people even come up with this junk?

 

[Fjordy]

It will be an interesting contract to watch. I am still in the trade Dahlin camp. I just don't think he is worth $10 mil plus relative to TNT's contract and the Sabres have a lot of young talent coming. Add that to the fact the trade value would be huge. Sabres can ask for the world.

He costs more than 10M, even EH and Athletic seem to have calculated this. Pay him whatever he wants, if it's 10 million, great, that's a good deal.

You have to be an idiot (sorry) to trade Dahlin.

 

[Perry Tegula]

It will be an interesting contract to watch. I am still in the trade Dahlin camp. I just don't think he is worth $10 mil plus relative to TNT's contract and the Sabres have a lot of young talent coming. Add that to the fact the trade value would be huge. Sabres can ask for the world.

He is the young talent. He is the best of the young talent.