Confirmed with Link: Rangers sign Artemi Panarin (7 years, $11.64M AAV)

[ReggieDunlop68]

In b4 Panera Bread becomes a team sponsor, opens an outlet inside MSG, and has Sam announcing on air that he's available to consume soup and sandwiches.

No way.

Dolan only has off-brand shitty food at the garden.

 

[Kaapo Cabana]

No way.

Dolan only has off-brand ****ty food at the garden.

I miss Ranch 1

 

[Calad]

I'll just say something for those of us that didn't want Panarin here.

Us not wanting him had nothing to do with the player. It also had nothing to do with our hope that the Rangers succeed or fail in the coming years. Despite what many say, none of us want to tank for draft picks forever.

However, many of us have waited 15+ years for a true rebuild. We have watched big name stars come and go, whether through FA or trade. Often overpaid. Almost always under-performing. Of course, the true hitch being that not one could bring us a cup. We've seen countless incarnations of teams built around marquee players and our one homegrown star, Hank.

1+ year ago, we finally thought we'd seen a new route being taken. We saw the franchise, with the potential to cling to playoff contention, sell many of its stars. It was unlike what many of us had ever seen from this team before. Then we followed it up with a strong draft and another season of dumping and gathering. Bringing in Fox, Kakko and a young Trouba - filling a position that has seemingly been impossible to fill for those 15+ years - was icing on the cake. One more season of developing and asset gathering was what we'd hoped for.

Now, the rebuild is undoubtedly complete. We are entering compete mode. We are seeking to add, rather than subtract. We are investing big money, in a late 20's winger, something we have witnessed various instances of over the years - Gaborik, Nash, St. Louis. And are still lacking dearly in the center department - again, a common issue that has remained throughout the years.

While I'm sure none of us will stop rooting for them based on this signing, it stinks of same old Rangers. The path that was laid out was not seen through. We didn't add to a place of need, because we never discovered what areas we needed in the first place. Very clearly, we seemed to put the cart before the horse.

This type of operation has always been mired in mediocrity or reached peaks that are just not quite good enough. Which is where our fears will remain until we're proven wrong. I hope I'm wrong, but I have a hard time seeing how this will be any different from those times before.

I know many will find points to disagree with in this post and it's not what it was written for. It was to try and give insight as to what some of us may be thinking in the anti-Panarin camp.

1 free agent signing doesn't change the reality of the situation which is multifaceted. We will have one of the youngest rosters in the league, many rookies and 2nd year players who have still yet to establish themselves and carve out a role in the NHL. Our defense is made up of half overpaid vets that have no place on the team for 2 more years. Our center depth is questionable. Our goalie is in his twilight years.

Hayes, Zucc, Vesey, likely Kreider are all out
Panarin and a bunch of rookies come in.

Panarin is a critical piece to the rebuild, he does not push this team out of the basement on his own. Until more money comes off the books over the next 2 seasons we won't be adding more players and "entering compete mode".

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

Faceless-

Richards and St. Louis and Nash were UFA signings and if the Rangers PP had more luck and a couple of posts turned into goals, who knows - we could've had a Cup in 2014.

I've been through all the FA signings as well. Been a fan since 89'. The difference is they never made this type of signing with a Kappo or a Kravstov on the team. The didn't have a stockpile of youth in all positions waiting to crack the roster over the next 3 years either.

I understand and agree with a lot of what you say there, but in the end it's about winning and only winning. I dont think Gorts and JD wouldve made this move if they didnt believe it truly enhances the rebuild they committed to.

Its hard for me to stomach that cap hit too but this summer has been absolutely
tremendous. If you think about where this team was at the start of last season and today its pretty mind blowing

The only people this f***ing team cares about is the guy on stub hub any given night taking his friends out.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Agreed. I also am not so sure I'd support this without the Kakko pick and Trouba trade, but the stars aligned quickly and the Rangers pounced. Can't blame them for that.

Of course. I think that the older Ranger fan inherently has an adverse reaction or at least pause to these big signings but this situation is different:

1) There is a core of young talent here and this signing is not an attempt to build a core

2) Panarin is not Holik, Redden, Kasparaitis or even Drury. He is an in-his-prime top player, not an aging suppor piece who is just coming here for a pay day.

3) The team still has future assets they need to continue injecting youth into the lineup.

4) JD knows Panarin well. He must believe that his skillset will not completely fall off as the player ages.

5) From what I can tell, there are no NMC or NTC in this contract.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

I miss Ranch 1

Dude those fries were excellent.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

The only people this ****ing team cares about is the guy on stub hub any given night taking his friends out.

Not sure what that even means

 

[Off Sides]

I'll just say something for those of us that didn't want Panarin here.

Us not wanting him had nothing to do with the player. It also had nothing to do with our hope that the Rangers succeed or fail in the coming years. Despite what many say, none of us want to tank for draft picks forever.

However, many of us have waited 15+ years for a true rebuild. We have watched big name stars come and go, whether through FA or trade. Often overpaid. Almost always under-performing. Of course, the true hitch being that not one could bring us a cup. We've seen countless incarnations of teams built around marquee players and our one homegrown star, Hank.

1+ year ago, we finally thought we'd seen a new route being taken. We saw the franchise, with the potential to cling to playoff contention, sell many of its stars. It was unlike what many of us had ever seen from this team before. Then we followed it up with a strong draft and another season of dumping and gathering. Bringing in Fox, Kakko and a young Trouba - filling a position that has seemingly been impossible to fill for those 15+ years - was icing on the cake. One more season of developing and asset gathering was what we'd hoped for.

Now, the rebuild is undoubtedly complete. We are entering compete mode. We are seeking to add, rather than subtract. We are investing big money, in a late 20's winger, something we have witnessed various instances of over the years - Gaborik, Nash, St. Louis. And are still lacking dearly in the center department - again, a common issue that has remained throughout the years.

While I'm sure none of us will stop rooting for them based on this signing, it stinks of same old Rangers. The path that was laid out was not seen through. We didn't add to a place of need, because we never discovered what areas we needed in the first place. Very clearly, we seemed to put the cart before the horse.

This type of operation has always been mired in mediocrity or reached peaks that are just not quite good enough. Which is where our fears will remain until we're proven wrong. I hope I'm wrong, but I have a hard time seeing how this will be any different from those times before.

I know many will find points to disagree with in this post and it's not what it was written for. It was to try and give insight as to what some of us may be thinking in the anti-Panarin camp.

It will not likely be any different.

Yet given the Rangers are the Rangers, I'm not too sure why any of us expected them to conduct themselves in any other manner. This is only like the 4th time they've fooled me, so it's bad on me more so than them. They talked out of both sides of their mouth and I choose to believe what I wanted to hear.

I mean do we really expect Ottawa to get their stuff together until ownership changes? Edmonton until they clear house without cronyism?

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

Not sure what that even means

Give it a second.

 

[Cag29]

Chytil or Buch, Andersson or Howden, Hajek or Rykov and next year’s 1st (top five protected).

I think the Habs just offersheeted Aho.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

It will not likely be any different.

Yet given the Rangers are the Rangers, I'm not too sure why any of us expected them to conduct themselves in any other manner. This is only like the 4th time they've fooled me, so it's bad on me more so than them. They talked out of both sides of their mouth and I choose to believe what I wanted to hear.

I mean do we really expect Ottawa to get their stuff together until ownership changes? Edmonton until they clear house without cronyism?

I really thought this time that they just might get with the program. Oh well...

 

[The New Russian Five]

I'll just say something for those of us that didn't want Panarin here.

Us not wanting him had nothing to do with the player. It also had nothing to do with our hope that the Rangers succeed or fail in the coming years. Despite what many say, none of us want to tank for draft picks forever.

However, many of us have waited 15+ years for a true rebuild. We have watched big name stars come and go, whether through FA or trade. Often overpaid. Almost always under-performing. Of course, the true hitch being that not one could bring us a cup. We've seen countless incarnations of teams built around marquee players and our one homegrown star, Hank.

1+ year ago, we finally thought we'd seen a new route being taken. We saw the franchise, with the potential to cling to playoff contention, sell many of its stars. It was unlike what many of us had ever seen from this team before. Then we followed it up with a strong draft and another season of dumping and gathering. Bringing in Fox, Kakko and a young Trouba - filling a position that has seemingly been impossible to fill for those 15+ years - was icing on the cake. One more season of developing and asset gathering was what we'd hoped for.

Now, the rebuild is undoubtedly complete. We are entering compete mode. We are seeking to add, rather than subtract. We are investing big money, in a late 20's winger, something we have witnessed various instances of over the years - Gaborik, Nash, St. Louis. And are still lacking dearly in the center department - again, a common issue that has remained throughout the years.

While I'm sure none of us will stop rooting for them based on this signing, it stinks of same old Rangers. The path that was laid out was not seen through. We didn't add to a place of need, because we never discovered what areas we needed in the first place. Very clearly, we seemed to put the cart before the horse.

This type of operation has always been mired in mediocrity or reached peaks that are just not quite good enough. Which is where our fears will remain until we're proven wrong. I hope I'm wrong, but I have a hard time seeing how this will be any different from those times before.

I know many will find points to disagree with in this post and it's not what it was written for. It was to try and give insight as to what some of us may be thinking in the anti-Panarin camp.

Long-time observer and finally posting here. But I think there are a couple of things to consider here:
1. Panarin is what I call a Gaborik type UFA. Unlike Gomez, Drury, Redden, and co, we are getting him at as young of an age as you could in UFA, has no injury history, and his game has only been trending upward. This was not the case of those other UFAs.
2. Those other signings did not happen at the heels of a massive overhaul that is bringing in quality prospects into the system, they were always to compliment an already veteran team. Meaning the team is only going to get better while he stays here.
3. There is a clear plan this time. The team has 4 dead-weight contracts coming off the books in 2 years, meaning that they will have a lot of flexibility to work with. Cap will likely continue to increase as well.
4. Look at the UFA classes for the next 2 years. Panarin is the best UFA you are going to find in this summer and the following 2.

In the past, I cringed at deals like the ones we gave Redden, Gomez, and Drury (always thought the Gaborik one was good). I disagree with you and I feel this signing was very different from the ones past. It seems very calculated and fits with what the team is trying to do. I trust what Gorton is trying to do here.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Maybe they didn’t go up there and tell ya, you’ve been away a long time but I don’t send rebuild fan letters out anymore

 

[IamNotADancer]

Man, the main board is rich on salty Isles and Habs fans.
Less than 24 hours ago I was reading stuff like "what a slap in the face for the Rangers if Panarin signs for the Islanders" or a shit ton of 12-13 million salary justification and now he's with the Rangers for LESS and suddenly it's a "BRUTAL" overpayment and "Rangers are buying over the hill players" ....

I love it.

 

[Kovalev27]

We’ve never added a no doubt elite ufa to a young core like the one we have right now.

The closest thing probably was bringing messier Here. And we know how that turned out.

This isn’t building your team thru free agency.

 

[mas0764]

Yo

You get Aho to fit in behind Zibanejad. You trade him for Aho and you still need another center.

Yeah, you’d need another center ..... and?

You have a 21 year old true #1 center in Aho. The #2 center you have to go looking for is much lower end. Aho plays ahead of Zibanejad, not behind him. Aho could be a 100 point player.

With Zibanejad, you are still crossing your fingers for Byfield or another #1 center.

You are way ahead of the game with Aho. Yes you still have a hole to fill, but it’s a much smaller hole. Do it ten out of ten times.

The real issue is Carolina wouldn’t do it for Zibanejad straight up - which is the first sign that you SHOULD do it straight up. I’d be willing to add but the question is, how much? The second issue is money. Can you afford the increase from Zibby’s 5.75 to Aho’s 8.4? Maybe part of the return to Carolina can be Namestnikov.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

Long-time observer and finally posting here. But I think there are a couple of things to consider here:
1. Panarin is what I call a Gaborik type UFA. Unlike Gomez, Drury, Redden, and co, we are getting him at as young of an age as you could in UFA, has no injury history, and his game has only been trending upward. This was not the case of those other UFAs.
2. Those other signings did not happen at the heels of a massive overhaul that is bringing in quality prospects into the system, they were always to compliment an already veteran team. Meaning the team is only going to get better while he stays here.
3. There is a clear plan this time. The team has 4 dead-weight contracts coming off the books in 2 years, meaning that they will have a lot of flexibility to work with. Cap will likely continue to increase as well.
4. Look at the UFA classes for the next 2 years. Panarin is the best UFA you are going to find in this summer and the following 2.

In the past, I cringed at deals like the ones we gave Redden, Gomez, and Drury (always thought the Gaborik one was good). I disagree with you and I feel this signing was very different from the ones past. It seems very calculated and fits with what the team is trying to do. I trust what Gorton is trying to do here.

Up until a year or two before the Rangers end up buying out or burying the UFA du jour, it's initially rationalized as different.

Are you referring to some other forum?

 

[Norman Moscow]

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

We’ve never added a no doubt elite ufa to a young core like the one we have right now.

The closest thing probably was bringing messier Here. And we know how that turned out.

This isn’t building your team thru free agency.

Of course it is.

 

[Zesty Strat]

Long-time observer and finally posting here. But I think there are a couple of things to consider here:
1. Panarin is what I call a Gaborik type UFA. Unlike Gomez, Drury, Redden, and co, we are getting him at as young of an age as you could in UFA, has no injury history, and his game has only been trending upward. This was not the case of those other UFAs.
2. Those other signings did not happen at the heels of a massive overhaul that is bringing in quality prospects into the system, they were always to compliment an already veteran team. Meaning the team is only going to get better while he stays here.
3. There is a clear plan this time. The team has 4 dead-weight contracts coming off the books in 2 years, meaning that they will have a lot of flexibility to work with. Cap will likely continue to increase as well.
4. Look at the UFA classes for the next 2 years. Panarin is the best UFA you are going to find in this summer and the following 2.

In the past, I cringed at deals like the ones we gave Redden, Gomez, and Drury (always thought the Gaborik one was good). I disagree with you and I feel this signing was very different from the ones past. It seems very calculated and fits with what the team is trying to do. I trust what Gorton is trying to do here.

Agreed. It's hard to remember a UFA pick up at (or going into) the prime of his career with such little milage and such a bright future.

This isn't Gomez/Drury, it feels closer to....#11.

Flame away lol

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

Agreed. It's hard to remember a UFA pick up at (or going into) the prime of his career with such little milage and such a bright future.

This isn't Gomez/Drury, it feels closer to....#11.

Flame away lol

He's a human being.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

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Captain? dont think so

 

[will1066]

We’ve never added a no doubt elite ufa to a young core like the one we have right now.

The closest thing probably was bringing messier Here. And we know how that turned out.

This isn’t building your team thru free agency.

When are you finally going to say that signing Panarin was having-a-walrus-in-goal-easy? I want to see you say it.

 

[Thirty One]

He's a human being.

Source?

 

[Off Sides]

I really thought this time that they just might get with the program. Oh well...

The most surprising aspect in my opinion, JD saw the dark years and beyond, all the throwing money at it, all the signings that did not work out as envisioned. That Columbus with a better overall roster, early picks and all, some of which who took longer to establish themselves than most would expect or failed to ever even do so, plus Panarin on a cheaper cap hit, all of that did not equate to more than a 1st and 2nd round exit, yet here we are.