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Confirmed with Link: Rangers sign Artemi Panarin (7 years, $11.64M AAV)

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Disagree with the decision but since it's done I'd love to see this line up for at least a few games

Pan. Chy. Krav
Kreid. Zib. Bush
Lem. How. Kap
Nam. Lias. Elmer/Strome

Put the vet with two kids
If kreid gets traded then move Kap and Lias up
Spread the scoring around
 
hpNYR said:
This is classic Gorton. His signature through and through. Don’t call it a short cut. Don’t call it a “quick” whatever. This is pure genius what this guy had accomplished in such little time. He did it with Boston, of which the roster he was mostly responsible of putting together went on to win the stanley cup soon later.

You have Kakko, Panarin, and Kravtsov as your elite 3 up front to build around.

You have a rock solid Trouba, Fox, and Hajek on your back end to build around. Let’s not forget about Hajek. The kid is going to be the real deal.

Don’t get me started on the goaltending.....

This rebuild is pretty much set. Without getting that lottery pick and taking someone like Kakko we wouldn’t be at this stage. We would probably not be talking about signing Panarin either, which i believe couldn’t be a more perfect time to sign him considering the circumstances.
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Gorton always indicated this wasn't going to be a long tear it down to the foundation and spend 5+ years just acquiring picks and drafting players and building the team that way kind of rebuild. They specifically went after guys like Howden, Hajek, DeAngelo, Rykov, Fox, etc because they were still young prospects but they were closer to contributing than an 18 year old draft pick.
The blueprint was always to "start" the rebuild by getting those guys in and contributing while continuing to acquire talent all over the place. Trouba falls into this as well pretty much...25 year old any situation defender who can play on the top pairing, exactly the kind of thing the Rangers were looking for.
We also heard Gorton say stuff like "accelerating the rebuild" before, especially after getting the 2nd overall.

Now whether this is going to be jumping the gun in regards to Panarin, I guess we'll see. It's a bit of a gamble but could have a big payoff as well
 
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Tawnos said:
I love Kreider, but I'm really not interested in giving him a deal that takes him to 35 or 36... and while I realize that Panarin's takes him nearly that far, we're talking about a totally different tier of talent-level.
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And playing style ...

Once CK slows down and stops playing physically, hell essentially be Thomas Holmstrom, and Holmstrom is not worth $6mm per year.
 
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Trade Namestnikov @ Full Boat. Just do it. Take back a lackluster return.

Buy out Smith.

That leaves us with about 14.7 for RFAs

Trouba - 8M
Buch - 3.25M
ADA- 2M
Lemieux - 1.2M

comes to 14.45

Ideally, I would like to move Shatty @ half as well. I know it was said there is not market for him at that price, but Shatty at 3.325 for 2 years is good value. If we can do that as well, then maybe we can sign a depth veteran for the bottom 6.

In this scenario Kreider is a self rental, and hopefully inflates his numbers in his contract year driving up his price so we can get a haul at the deadline.
 
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Leetch3 said:
a discount doesn't mean free. panarin took less $$ to come here
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I believe it was a million a year he left on the table? So 7 years, that's 7 million dollars, maybe more if he stayed with Columbus. That is a lot of money to leave on the table.
 
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hpNYR said:
This is classic Gorton. His signature through and through. Don’t call it a short cut. Don’t call it a “quick” whatever. This is pure genius what this guy had accomplished in such little time. He did it with Boston, of which the roster he was mostly responsible of putting together went on to win the stanley cup soon later.

You have Kakko, Panarin, and Kravtsov as your elite 3 up front to build around.

You have a rock solid Trouba, Fox, and Hajek on your back end to build around. Let’s not forget about Hajek. The kid is going to be the real deal.

Don’t get me started on the goaltending.....

This rebuild is pretty much set. Without getting that lottery pick and taking someone like Kakko we wouldn’t be at this stage. We would probably not be talking about signing Panarin either, which i believe couldn’t be a more perfect time to sign him considering the circumstances.
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I don't believe the Kakko pick inspired the panarin signing. I think we would have signed him regardless if we picked JH or KK.

As a matter of fact, as much as i love the Kakko pick, truth be told Hughes was more of a need for this org.
 
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You missed the point there. The fact that we landed a top 2 pick accelerated the “rebuild” , and allowed the Panarin conversation to be had. Im not sure we are talking Panarin today if we had drafted 3rd overall or worse. There is a big curb in talent after Hughes and Kakko.
Procrastinator said:
I don't believe the Kakko pick inspired the panarin signing. I think we would have signed him regardless if we picked JH or KK.

As a matter of fact, as much as i love the Kakko pick, truth be told Hughes was more of a need for this org.
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Procrastinator said:
I don't believe the Kakko pick inspired the panarin signing. I think we would have signed him regardless if we picked JH or KK.

As a matter of fact, as much as i love the Kakko pick, truth be told Hughes was more of a need for this org.
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I dont' think they meant Kakko in particular, moreso that winning the lottery and knowing they'd get to pick Hughes or Kakko made them feel like they could go out and spend more in FA as the pieces for the rebuild just got better
 
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Kovalev27 said:
What if you could keep CK for 6 mil instead of giving Buch 4 mil?

Would you figure out a way to make that work?

I think Kreider gives us an element we may need In the top 6
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Neither.

I'd like to get Buch at a better price, but Kreider is just costed out now.
 
jas said:
F it...go trade for Aho.
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I tend to agree, if they are going this route, just keep going. There is no way now they are going to be able to extend all that was stockpiled, may as well use some of that ammo to do other win now things. If they can also attach some of that to things which take up cap space, mostly the three S on D, they may as well do that too.
 
Namestnikov and Beleskey have to go. Wouldn't move on from Strome at all, I think he has way more to show. I think the Rangers will do what they can to keep Kreider. #ConspiracyTheory
 
ZuccsFluffierFluffer said:
Chytil

Not in response to you but Kreider is not going to be a self rental. Hes gone.
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I'd say its a pretty good chance hes gone this summer, but I'm not nearly as sure as you are. 100% he is traded some time before the 2020 deadline

You saw with the Vesey deal that we are willing to just move guys out for below market value to save cap space. Vesey's value was never that high so taking an L on that one is no big deal. Same with Namestnikov. I'd rather not do that on Kreider. I fear with our current cap situation that we will get lowballed for Kreider.
 
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Kaapo Cabana said:
I'd say its a pretty good chance hes gone this summer, but I'm not nearly as sure as you are. 100% he is traded some time before the 2020 deadline

You saw with the Vesey deal that we are willing to just move guys out for below market value to save cap space. Vesey's value was never that high so taking an L on that one is no big deal. Same with Namestnikov. I'd rather not do that on Kreider. I fear with our current cap situation that we will get lowballed for Kreider.
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I mean the common theme put out there is that if they got Panarin, Kreider was out.

There will be a much more substantial market for Kreider than there was for Vesey.
 
I think we can keep Buch's price down by using the Russian invasion as leverage. Where else will he get to play with his comrades?
 
shinchanuuhh said:
I actually voted yes on signing Panarin before I had a chance to think about it.

Based on his age and our projected window of opportunity this is a dumb signing because any contract paying out the ass to a guy past 30 is dumb. You just KNOW that the guy won't live up to the full duration of the contract. But there are degrees of acceptable when it comes to these dumb contracts.

It's not "Get rid of Capt. Jagr for Drury and Gomez" dumb.

It's not "boot Stralman and bring in Boyle's corpse" dumb.

It's not "Signs of decline Wade Redden" dumb.

It's a little dumber than bringing in Richards. Richards, of course, had a precipitous, almost immediate drop-off that no one ever expected.
3 or 4 years in? Sure, makes sense to think he'd fall off by then.
But he was also brought in right smack dab in the middle of our cup window. He (like panarin) had a play style and career that suggested he'd be good for most of the contract. With that in mind, eating the likely long term consequences was a dumb signing that made sense.

With Panarin, the window isn't open for another year or two at the earliest. If he drops off at a reasonable time (4 years from now) then we'll have two years of him being elite during our window.

Maybe we get uber lucky and he skyrockets into a 100 point player and plays up to the duration of his contract. God knows we're due for a "Chara-ing"

Believe it or not I'm crazy excited for the next two/three years.
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They made the finals with Richards and St Louis on the squad. Isnt the goal to win a Cup?
 
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