Confirmed with Link: Rangers sign Artemi Panarin (7 years, $11.64M AAV)

[romba]

I don't want to be a Debbie Downer about the signing of Panarin, in fact I was rooting for it to happen all along.......but why does it seem like we overpay for players that want to come to our Rangers? Shouldn't there be a discount included here? Let me see..... Marty St. Louis wanted here, and we got reamed, Shattenkirk wanted to come here and you see how that's presenting itself and now the Breadman, when we have perfectly produced Bagels already. Am I wrong in saying we are outbidding ourselves?

6 mil over 7 years is nothing to sneeze at, it's a legitimate discount.

 

[Larrybiv]

a discount doesn't mean free. panarin took less $$ to come here

Really. So, there is proof of other more expensive offers? If so, my bad. Havent been keeping up.....yeah, life stuff.

 

[Kovalev27]

Yes sorry

Is there supposed to be a Buchnevich after that second "/"?

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

I actually voted yes on signing Panarin before I had a chance to think about it.

Based on his age and our projected window of opportunity this is a dumb signing because any contract paying out the ass to a guy past 30 is dumb. You just KNOW that the guy won't live up to the full duration of the contract. But there are degrees of acceptable when it comes to these dumb contracts.

It's not "Get rid of Capt. Jagr for Drury and Gomez" dumb.

It's not "boot Stralman and bring in Boyle's corpse" dumb.

It's not "Signs of decline Wade Redden" dumb.

It's a little dumber than bringing in Richards. Richards, of course, had a precipitous, almost immediate drop-off that no one ever expected.
3 or 4 years in? Sure, makes sense to think he'd fall off by then.
But he was also brought in right smack dab in the middle of our cup window. He (like panarin) had a play style and career that suggested he'd be good for most of the contract. With that in mind, eating the likely long term consequences was a dumb signing that made sense.

With Panarin, the window isn't open for another year or two at the earliest. If he drops off at a reasonable time (4 years from now) then we'll have two years of him being elite during our window.

Maybe we get uber lucky and he skyrockets into a 100 point player and plays up to the duration of his contract. God knows we're due for a "Chara-ing"

Believe it or not I'm crazy excited for the next two/three years.

 

[EdJovanovski]

So excited!!!!

 

[Trxjw]

all that cap space we were gonna use to get free assets sure disappeared quickly with trouba and panarin

Cap flush to cap strapped with the stroke of a pen.

 

[NikC]

I'd be shocked if lias' is still in this organization a year from now

Wait , I was told on this board that hes turning into Mark Scheifele...

Very bad if the rangers missed with the 7oa... were supposed to forget about Mcilrath, right...

 

[Larrybiv]

I mean, he took $1 million less than he was offered with NYI. Thats $7 million over the course of the contract. Well, $858k less and $6.006 million less to be exact. How much of a discount did you want?

Okay easy there. Did not KNOW that. Now that I DO know, kudos to him to give up that 7 mil to play for us. Jeez. Stability. The Rangers will ALWAYS be around......who knows where the Isles will be, if at all in years to come.

 

[Cag29]

MIKA FOREVER
BreadMan
Kaapo Kakko
Kravtsov
Chytilmania
Buchy
Howden
Lemieux
Stromer
Lias
Jesper Fast
Boo
Namestnikov (if he stays)

I’ve never been more excited to watch a NYR forward group

Me too. That’s since 1975. !!!

 

[ElLeetch]

****ing stoked, lads.

The top-6 is #Eurofresh

Panarin-Zibanejad-Kakko
Kravstov-Chytil-Buchnevich

Fast-Andersson-Namestnikov

All Euro forwards, all US Defenders

Skjei-Trouba
Fox-Miller
ADA-Shattenkirk

 

[Leetch3]

When you've got Panarin, Kakko and Kravtsov, with Chytil as the other potential top six wing, you don't commit to Buch. You've also got Howden, drafted Henriksson and have an emerging Barron. Lias is easily moved in the right deal under those circumstances.

I think ideal is to move buch+ for a 2C and then put chytil on wing. but no clue who that guy might be...work your magic JG

 

[Leetch3]

Wait , I was told on this board that hes turning into Mark Scheifele...

Very bad if the rangers missed with the 7oa... were supposed to forget about Mcilrath, right...

huge difference between being a bust and moving him cause we've got so many good players we don't know what to do with him

 

[Edge]

And with my obvious displeasure about the apparent overpaying, it might not be overpaying with rising cap space and rising salaries. As long as he busts his ass and does what he can do......I am okay with it, I guess. Cant blame me for the anxiousness about it, given our history. We seem to ALWAYS get screwed with long term contracts. At least he's 28 and NOT already 31.

So, I've been unable to confirm, but supposedly the Rangers did move a small amount from the offer they were committed to --- probably about half-a-million. But the Rangers were not the top offer, in fact, they might not even have been in the top 3.

 

[duhmetreE]

I trust Gorton. I trust that JD knows Panarin. I trust JD and Gorton made the right decision.

We will not be able to sign a great/elite player for the foreseeable future. This lined up perfectly IMO.

Adding Panarin, Kakko and Kravtsov on offense is absurd.

 

[Kovalev27]

What if you could keep CK for 6 mil instead of giving Buch 4 mil?

Would you figure out a way to make that work?

I think Kreider gives us an element we may need In the top 6

 

[CasusBelli]

I think ideal is to move buch+ for a 2C and then put chytil on wing. but no clue who that guy might be...work your magic JG

I think we need to move CK and a first for a 22-23 year old stud. Throw in Butch and Lias if we have to.

 

[CasusBelli]

What if you could keep CK for 6 mil instead of giving Buch 4 mil?

Would you figure out a way to make that work?

I think Kreider gives us an element we may need In the top 6

I wouldn’t give 89 even $3mm to be honest. He is too darn inconsistent. And I’m not talking about production — he just looks lackadaisical too often.

 

[Procrastinator]

Cap flush to cap strapped with the stroke of a pen.

yeah but becoming cap strapped for guys like trouba and panarin is not a bad thing.

 

[eco's bones]

Panarin, Shestyorkin, Buchnevich, Rykov--all former SKA St. Petersburg players.

 

[Tawnos]

What if you could keep CK for 6 mil instead of giving Buch 4 mil?

Would you figure out a way to make that work?

I think Kreider gives us an element we may need In the top 6

I love Kreider, but I'm really not interested in giving him a deal that takes him to 35 or 36... and while I realize that Panarin's takes him nearly that far, we're talking about a totally different tier of talent-level.

 

[ElLeetch]

"Self rental"

at this point, i think its a TDL decision.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

I think we need to move CK and a first for a 22-23 year old stud.

I mean, yeah. But what team is really doing that?

 

[hpNYR]

This is classic Gorton. His signature through and through. Don’t call it a short cut. Don’t call it a “quick” whatever. This is pure genius what this guy had accomplished in such little time. He did it with Boston, of which the roster he was mostly responsible of putting together went on to win the stanley cup soon later.

You have Kakko, Panarin, and Kravtsov as your elite 3 up front to build around.

You have a rock solid Trouba, Fox, and Hajek on your back end to build around. Let’s not forget about Hajek. The kid is going to be the real deal.

Don’t get me started on the goaltending.....

This rebuild is pretty much set. Without getting that lottery pick and taking someone like Kakko we wouldn’t be at this stage. We would probably not be talking about signing Panarin either, which i believe couldn’t be a more perfect time to sign him considering the circumstances.

 

[ThirdEye]

Hopefully this will be reminiscent of the Gaborik signing which worked out pretty well for us. Also, unlike Gabby Artemi doesn't have a history of injuries

It's risky, but I guess the Rangers want to compete sooner than later

 

[ElLeetch]

And why not?

Absent something slightly unforeseen, like Kakko or Kravtsov slotting in as your future #1C, Buch has suddenly become no better than your fourth winger in the top 6. You aren’t gonna at that guy top dollar; you probably need more of a gritty, well rounded winger as your compliment there anyway (Lias Andersson?). Buch may not even be a second liner if Andersson or Chytil surpass him.

If you can move Buch, either in a package or not, for a young top 6 center with upside, you do it all day long.

Buch+ a 2020 second should get you there.

 

[ElLeetch]

Hopefully this will be reminiscent of the Gaborik signing which worked out pretty well for us. Also, unlike Gabby Artemi doesn't have a history of injuries

It's risky, but I guess the Rangers want to compete sooner than later

Gaborik was also a full-time NHLer at 18. Panarin didnt get a full season in the NHL until he was 24. from 18-24, he was playing in Russia. less games, less physical play.

Panarin has a lot less miles on him.