Prospect Info: Rangers Prospect Thread (Player Stats/Info in Post #1; Updated 11.15.19)

[Ola]

High praise for Jones.

Pronman’s NHL prospect impressions: Who is already raising...

"I talked with the Tri-City Storm’s head coach Anthony Noreen about Zac Jones (D, New York Rangers), who was a top player in the USHL last season. He had effusive praise for the young defenseman who was a third-round pick. “He might be the most talented player I’ve ever coached. Kyle Connor is 1A, he’s 1B,” Noreen said of Jones. “He’s a modern-day defenseman. For him to put up 50 points as a rookie defenseman, while going up against other team’s top lines and killing penalties, I think New York is going to look like geniuses in a couple of years.” The main reason why Jones didn’t go high last season was some scouts were skeptical of his skating ability for a smaller player."

Also mentioned Lundkvist having an awesome start to the season.

Wow, that was certainly high praise.

 

[egelband]

Jakob Ragnarsson about to be loaned out to Timrå in Allsvenskan. Great news for him and me since i watch most Timrå games.

Does he have a chance of ever appearing as a Ranger? What's the feeling?

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Does he have a chance of ever appearing as a Ranger? What's the feeling?

Every prospect has a chance, but I would put the likelihood of that happening at 10-15%

 

[ManUtdTobbe]

Does he have a chance of ever appearing as a Ranger? What's the feeling?

He’s stagnated a bit since drafted but he has NHL upside, chance is going down though.

 

[cwede]

NYR's top pick in '13 draft:
Stockton Heat
@AHLHeat
ROSTER NEWS: ... Forwards ... Adam Tambellini have been released from their training camp tryouts

2013 Entry
Draft Num. Round Player Pos Drafted From GP G A Pts PIM
2013 Entry 65 3 Adam Tambellini L Surrey Eagles [BCHL]
2013 Entry 75 3 Pavel Buchnevich R Cherepovets Jrs. (Russia) 179 43 58 101 46
2013 Entry 80 3 Anthony Duclair L Quebec Remparts [QMJHL] 288 56 66 122 97
2013 Entry 110 4 Ryan Graves D Prince Edward Island Rocket [QMJHL] 26 3 2 5 2
2013 Entry 170 6 Mackenzie Skapski G Kootenay Ice [WHL] 2 0 0 0 0
New York Rangers Draft History at hockeydb.com

 

[Ken Lund]

He’s stagnated a bit since drafted but he has NHL upside, chance is going down though.

And it's not just about him, we have so many prospects on defense it's hard to see where he gets an opportunity to make an impact.

 

[kovazub94]

NYR's top pick in '13 draft:
Stockton Heat
@AHLHeat
ROSTER NEWS: ... Forwards ... Adam Tambellini have been released from their training camp tryouts

2013 Entry
Draft Num. Round Player Pos Drafted From GP G A Pts PIM
2013 Entry 65 3 Adam Tambellini L Surrey Eagles [BCHL]
2013 Entry 75 3 Pavel Buchnevich R Cherepovets Jrs. (Russia) 179 43 58 101 46
2013 Entry 80 3 Anthony Duclair L Quebec Remparts [QMJHL] 288 56 66 122 97
2013 Entry 110 4 Ryan Graves D Prince Edward Island Rocket [QMJHL] 26 3 2 5 2
2013 Entry 170 6 Mackenzie Skapski G Kootenay Ice [WHL] 2 0 0 0 0
New York Rangers Draft History at hockeydb.com

Calling him a top pick is a bit misleading, no? Scouting should get a solid A for hauling 3 NHLers out of that draft without any 1st or 2nd round.

 

[JohnC]

Calling him a top pick is a bit misleading, no? Scouting should get a solid A for hauling 3 NHLers out of that draft without any 1st or 2nd round.

It's not when he was quite literally their top pick of the draft

 

[nyr2k2]

Lindbom is starting today.

 

[FatGiraffe]

NYR's top pick in '13 draft:
Stockton Heat
@AHLHeat
ROSTER NEWS: ... Forwards ... Adam Tambellini have been released from their training camp tryouts

2013 Entry
Draft Num. Round Player Pos Drafted From GP G A Pts PIM
2013 Entry 65 3 Adam Tambellini L Surrey Eagles [BCHL]
2013 Entry 75 3 Pavel Buchnevich R Cherepovets Jrs. (Russia) 179 43 58 101 46
2013 Entry 80 3 Anthony Duclair L Quebec Remparts [QMJHL] 288 56 66 122 97
2013 Entry 110 4 Ryan Graves D Prince Edward Island Rocket [QMJHL] 26 3 2 5 2
2013 Entry 170 6 Mackenzie Skapski G Kootenay Ice [WHL] 2 0 0 0 0
New York Rangers Draft History at hockeydb.com

Only player from that draft to not play a NHL game. Pretty good drafting with not much to work with I'd say

 

[nyr2k2]

Aaltonen was back in the lineup. He played about 9 minutes, was -1, 2 shots.

Pajuniemi was -1 and 0 shots in a season-high 17:14.

On the opposite side of Pajuniemi, Tarmo Reunanen made his debut. He was even and had 5 shots in 17:54.

Lindbom has stopped 12/13, late second.

 

[kovazub94]

It's not when he was quite literally their top pick of the draft

I'm well aware of this. However the context here (since we are talking about a 3rd round pick) is important because normally this reference to a failed "top pick" implies a misjudgment of a prospect - a wasted /lost opportunity which is not the case since we are talking barely teen chance probably of a third round pick making it to the NHL. Instead the emphasis should be on the fact that in that year the Rangers drafted four 3-4 rounders of which 3 are making solid NHL careers. I'm sure @cwede note of him being a top pick was at least partially in jest.

 

[nyr2k2]

Lindbom stopped 23/24 for the W. He has been really good in 3/4 starts. He also had the 7 goals allowed game where he wasn't even that bad.

 

[JohnC]

I'm well aware of this. However the context here (since we are talking about a 3rd round pick) is important because normally this reference to a failed "top pick" implies a misjudgment of a prospect - a wasted /lost opportunity which is not the case since we are talking barely teen chance probably of a third round pick making it to the NHL. Instead the emphasis should be on the fact that in that year the Rangers drafted four 3-4 rounders of which 3 are making solid NHL careers. I'm sure @cwede note of him being a top pick was at least partially in jest.

I don't know what any of this has to do with it. Tambo was the player they selected with their first pick of the 2013 draft. He was quite literally their top pick and cwede was making note of that top pick being released from his AHL Stockton tryout.

 

[cwede]

... I'm sure @cwede note of him being a top pick was at least partially in jest.

actually i was mostly just being factual,
i don't come here to shovel dirt on guys much, usually the opposite preaching patience with kids under 24 ...
(I ain't done quit on Day, Gropp or Ronning yet)

but, yes, it did have meaning in relation to the included news he was released from an AHL PTO.

that sequence of 3rd round wing selections was interesting,
Tambo had the pedigree and the shot, and without the questions that
Buch ('will he come from Russia?') or Duke (not very tall)

even though he scored lots in the W, i think it was mistake for Tambo to walk away from NoDak
imagine if Tambo had those traits we love in Nick Jones, along with his size and release ...

 

[nyr2k2]

actually i was mostly just being factual,
i don't come here to shovel dirt on guys much, usually the opposite preaching patience with kids under 24 ...
(I ain't done quit on Day, Gropp or Ronning yet)

but, yes, it did have meaning in relation to the included news he was released from an AHL PTO.

that sequence of 3rd round wing selections was interesting,
Tambo had the pedigree and the shot, and without the questions that
Buch ('will he come from Russia?') or Duke (not very tall)

even though he scored lots in the W, i think it was mistake for Tambo to walk away from NoDak
imagine if Tambo had those traits we love in Nick Jones, along with his size and release ...

I think Duclair's drop was more to do with coming off a down year and then also the maturity concerns.

 

[ManUtdTobbe]

As i thought, Jakob Ragnarsson has now signed a two year contract with Timrå IK in HockeyAllsvenskan, good move for everyone involved. Local sources are good sometimes

 

[TheWhiskeyThief]

actually i was mostly just being factual,
i don't come here to shovel dirt on guys much, usually the opposite preaching patience with kids under 24 ...
(I ain't done quit on Day, Gropp or Ronning yet)

but, yes, it did have meaning in relation to the included news he was released from an AHL PTO.

that sequence of 3rd round wing selections was interesting,
Tambo had the pedigree and the shot, and without the questions that
Buch ('will he come from Russia?') or Duke (not very tall)

even though he scored lots in the W, i think it was mistake for Tambo to walk away from NoDak
imagine if Tambo had those traits we love in Nick Jones, along with his size and release ...

The issue with the forwards drafted was that they were all reed thin for their height.

Rambo could never put the weight on, Buch took a long time, Duclair wouldn’t be a fringe NHLer if he could.

Gropp’s big problem is putting the weight on as well. Needs to put on another 10lbs to have the ability to get to the net routinely.

Tambellini would be better served playing over in Europe, pile up the points and the pounds instead of playing for $50k in the A.

 

[Leetch3]

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

Definitely not a guy I’d expect to have a hat trick. Found a video of his goals though

 

[kovazub94]

I think Duclair's drop was more to do with coming off a down year and then also the maturity concerns.

The Rangers were able to identify factors that caused these prospects to be available and smartly “discounted” them as something that could be addressed and overcome as obstacles by Buch, Duke and Graves to eventually become NHLers.

 

[LaffyTaffy]

Robertson didnt play tonight for the Oil Kings. Has 0 points so far. Not sure whats going on there and whether him sitting is injury related. Certainly hope he can get on his two feet sooner rather than later.

 

[Edge]

Say what you want about the Lindbom pick, but at least none of our 2018 first rounders are spending their D+2 season in the BCHL like O'Brien. Yeesh.

Lindbom has a lot of potential, more than he gets credit for because some people were very upset about when he was picked.

But drafts are a tricky business, and time and space is the only true way to judge them. It can be all too easy to get too depressed or excited about a draft before things shake out.

When I was working for the Rangers, I always used 1995 and 1997 as example of drafts that initially looked great, only to have the wheels fall off.

In summer 1996, both Christian Dube and Marc Savard looked like potential NHL centers, and Mike Martin and Alexei Vasiliev looked like they had shots to be NHL defenseman. In the end Dube, Martin and Vasiliev didn't pan out, and it was Savard and Dale Purinton who played in the NHL.

Ditto for the summer of 1999 when Cherneski, Jarvis and Henry looked like an incredibly promising trio of picks, and it looked like we had the potential for some late round surprises in York, Mottau, Linbom and Holmqvist.

Heck, even when things go well, they don't always go as expected. We've had a number of players from the 2011 draft in this organization play for us. But what if 2011 was like 2018 or 2019? What if we had multiple picks in the top 100? What if we had drafted all the players from that draft who played for our organization? Basically 2018 and 2019 with a steroid boost --- for the sake of having fun.

On June 26, 2011, we would have come away thinking we potentially had the our future 1-2 punch at center with Strome and Zibanejad. We'd have been thrilled to have three potential top 9 wingers in Miller, Puempel and Jensen, and a potential third line center/top 9 winger in Namestnikov.

We would've rounded that out with some potential second or third pairing defensemen in Morrow, Clendening and Sproul, and an intriguing goalie prospect in Hellberg.

Then we would've added organizational depth and guys who have shots in Fogarty, Paliotta, Catenacci, St. Croix, and some of the other guys we took flyers.

Now obviously that would be the most successful draft in Rangers history, but even still it would've had more misses and note quite's than best case scenario outcomes.

 

[AIexisLafreniereNYR]

Stoked for Miller-Lundkvist that’ll be dangerous

 

[Ola]

So much about drafting is about (i) the work the team does after the draft, and (ii) how receptive the league is for new talent.

During the late 90s early 00s the league is totally about becoming more defensive, bigger, more disciplined and so forth. There where many good kids coming up during those years, but it is of course not easy for them to establish themselves and make a lot of noise.

Post 05’ the situation is OTOH totally different. The league is at that time — full — of vets that the last year’s only have focused on playing disciplined defensive hockey. The rules are changed and the game opened up for speed and skill, of course those 03’-06’ drafts produced an exceptional amount of good players because everyone are looking for what these kids can provide and the competition in the areas they are good is just weak.

We have also over the years seen how the best teams have a tremendously much better record than the worst run organization to develop players. Teams like Detroit, NJ, Colorado and co produced a huge chunk of all talent that broke into the league during those tough years. Of course there is a bit of a hen and the egg situation, where they good because they drafted 50x better than the rest or did they develop kids well because they could put them in a position to succeed? It’s hard to say, but I think it’s more of the later. A team like Colorado could put Deadmarsh, Drury, Tanguay, Hejduk and the likes in a position to succeed, most other teams couldn’t.

We had no idea what we where doing. A total joke.