Prospect Info: Rangers Prospect Thread (Player Stats/Info in Post #1; Updated 11.15.19)

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We have also over the years seen how the best teams have a tremendously much better record than the worst run organization to develop players. Teams like Detroit, NJ, Colorado and co produced a huge chunk of all talent that broke into the league during those tough years. Of course there is a bit of a hen and the egg situation, where they good because they drafted 50x better than the rest or did they develop kids well because they could put them in a position to succeed? It’s hard to say, but I think it’s more of the later.

When Jersey were winning those cups, a huge chunk of those guys were from the 87 drafts and up and they had 50 drafted(or signed as UDFA) and developed players playing in the NHL. They gave them chances, but would quickly move them for upgrades in on ice talent or picks because they had so many players in the pipeline or didn’t like something about their makeup.

They used the NCAA & European systems to let their prospects develop, then teach them how to play a NHL game on the farm until they were the finished product, but also would take risks on specimens and literally teach them how to play hockey from scratch(Oliwa.) They would take coaches who they had relieved and have them coach down on the farm or work as traveling position instructors rather than have them golf before getting hired elsewhere.

The last few CBAs that introduced 50 man rosters have altered the development paths somewhat, but where the Devils went south was that their US scouting network had a bit of entropy as they hit the turn of the century.
 
Lindbom has a lot of potential, more than he gets credit for because some people were very upset about when he was picked.

But drafts are a tricky business, and time and space is the only true way to judge them. It can be all too easy to get too depressed or excited about a draft before things shake out.

When I was working for the Rangers, I always used 1995 and 1997 as example of drafts that initially looked great, only to have the wheels fall off.

In summer 1996, both Christian Dube and Marc Savard looked like potential NHL centers, and Mike Martin and Alexei Vasiliev looked like they had shots to be NHL defenseman. In the end Dube, Martin and Vasiliev didn't pan out, and it was Savard and Dale Purinton who played in the NHL.

Ditto for the summer of 1999 when Cherneski, Jarvis and Henry looked like an incredibly promising trio of picks, and it looked like we had the potential for some late round surprises in York, Mottau, Linbom and Holmqvist.

Heck, even when things go well, they don't always go as expected. We've had a number of players from the 2011 draft in this organization play for us. But what if 2011 was like 2018 or 2019? What if we had multiple picks in the top 100? What if we had drafted all the players from that draft who played for our organization? Basically 2018 and 2019 with a steroid boost --- for the sake of having fun.

On June 26, 2011, we would have come away thinking we potentially had the our future 1-2 punch at center with Strome and Zibanejad. We'd have been thrilled to have three potential top 9 wingers in Miller, Puempel and Jensen, and a potential third line center/top 9 winger in Namestnikov.

We would've rounded that out with some potential second or third pairing defensemen in Morrow, Clendening and Sproul, and an intriguing goalie prospect in Hellberg.

Then we would've added organizational depth and guys who have shots in Fogarty, Paliotta, Catenacci, St. Croix, and some of the other guys we took flyers.

Now obviously that would be the most successful draft in Rangers history, but even still it would've had more misses and note quite's than best case scenario outcomes.

If you get another teams first round pick, it's usually because he's a bust. The expectations you listed would be from fans new to the draft in any sport.

Going forward, if Kravtsov, Chytil and Andersson become some combo of Zibanejad, Strome and Namestnikov, things worked out well. Hopefully some combo of Howden, Lemieux, Barron, Henriksson turn into a pair of high end third line players. Kakko, Pararin, Zibanejad will be the core up front long term.

If just 2 of Miller, Hajek, Lindgren, Rykov and Robertson become average 20 minute defensemen, things will look bright on the left side. The right side already looks great.
 
So KAndre not playing this weekend due to violation of team rules. Anyone got a clue what happened??
 
NYR's top pick in '13 draft:
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2013 Entry
Draft Num. Round Player Pos Drafted From GP G A Pts PIM
2013 Entry 65 3 Adam Tambellini L Surrey Eagles [BCHL]
2013 Entry 75 3 Pavel Buchnevich R Cherepovets Jrs. (Russia) 179 43 58 101 46
2013 Entry 80 3 Anthony Duclair L Quebec Remparts [QMJHL] 288 56 66 122 97
2013 Entry 110 4 Ryan Graves D Prince Edward Island Rocket [QMJHL] 26 3 2 5 2
2013 Entry 170 6 Mackenzie Skapski G Kootenay Ice [WHL] 2 0 0 0 0
New York Rangers Draft History at hockeydb.com

Honestly, though, this turned out better than thought out compared to the picks they had. Buch is Buch, Duclair is still an NHLer to a middle-6 capacity and Graves is still relatively young and just made a stacked Avalanche team. If Skapski never had the hip injury/surgery, he could very well still be in the NHL as a backup or a capable AHL starter. I've never liked Tambellini, even when they drafted him, but that's the only mess up of that class, IMO.

4 out of 5 became pros in later round picks!!
 
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This Miller situation is very vague and I'm not liking it!! :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

I know nothing about these things, but couldn’t it be academic? Just sounds odd that he can train off the ice with the team but not on it. Sounds like a punishment you would get for being behind in school, take care of this or that before you hit the ice.

If it was something serious, discipline related, it just seem like a complete suspension would be more proper.
 
I know nothing about these things, but couldn’t it be academic? Just sounds odd that he can train off the ice with the team but not on it. Sounds like a punishment you would get for being behind in school, take care of this or that before you hit the ice.

If it was something serious, discipline related, it just seem like a complete suspension would be more proper.

Could be but I don’t think it’s far enough into the school year for grades to be an issue
 
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1) There was some news about top Rangers defense prospect K’Andre Miller being suspended for breaking team rules at the University of Wisconsin, where he’s a sophomore. There weren’t many details, and when there are no details you wonder how bad his transgression might have been. So I checked with Badgers coach Tony Granato, who said, “Nope. Nothing major. I have done the same with probably seven or eight guys already. … It is exactly what it is. He broke a team rule and is suspended for (Sunday’s) inter-squad game. Nothing more.”
 
from Carp...

1) There was some news about top Rangers defense prospect K’Andre Miller being suspended for breaking team rules at the University of Wisconsin, where he’s a sophomore. There weren’t many details, and when there are no details you wonder how bad his transgression might have been. So I checked with Badgers coach Tony Granato, who said, “Nope. Nothing major. I have done the same with probably seven or eight guys already. … It is exactly what it is. He broke a team rule and is suspended for (Sunday’s) inter-squad game. Nothing more.”
I think the beat reporters are doing good work lately.
 
If it really got off track, per ElireProspects, K'Andre's CHL rights are with Victoria in W
 
Tyler Nanne was named a co-captain for Minnesota.

He's a long shot to receive a contract, but with a big year he could get back in the conversation. He skates really well, passes well, has decent vision and a pretty good shot. He's kind of small and not strong, but who knows. He also can still play as a forward.
 
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