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Amazing Kreiderman said:
I get that, but we can't expect everyone of our gazillion prospects to put up amazing numbers. The more prospects you have, the bigger the chances there are some duds.
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Obviously, and I’ve been around long enough that I don’t expect every player to make it. Two NHL players out of a draft is generally great. I just feel like our European drafting in particular lately has been lacking. You draft a Jan Marek or a Nigel Dawes and they don’t have a significant or any NHL career, but they go on to become great pros elsewhere then you feel like you picked a good player who just didn’t make it for whatever reason. When you see guys struggling mightily in a D+1 or D+2 year then I think you have to begin asking questions. I generally think that the Rangers are better than average at drafting, but you can always get better.
 
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Barnaby said:
Obviously, and I’ve been around long enough that I don’t expect every player to make it. Two NHL players out of a draft is generally great. I just feel like our European drafting in particular lately has been lacking. You draft a Jan Marek or a Nigel Dawes and they don’t have a significant or any NHL career, but they go on to become great pros elsewhere then you feel like you picked a good player who just didn’t make it for whatever reason. When you see guys struggling mightily in a D+1 or D+2 year then I think you have to begin asking questions. I generally think that the Rangers are better than average at drafting, but you can always get better.
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That 3rd round in 2013, we knocked it out of the park

Buchnevich and Duclair are NHL contributors while Tambellini, for all his flaws is having a respectable career in the 3rd best league in the world.

It all depends on how you look at it.

Marek Židlický never played a game for us but damn, was he a good draft pick in the 6th round.
 
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Amazing Kreiderman said:
That 3rd round in 2013, we knocked it out of the park

Buchnevich and Duclair are NHL contributors while Tambellini, for all his flaws is having a respectable career in the 3rd best league in the world.

It all depends on how you look at it.

Marek Židlický never played a game for us but damn, was he a good draft pick in the 6th round.
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And don’t forget Graves. 2013 would have been a great draft year even if the Rangers had multiple first and second round picks.
 
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nyr2k2 said:
Yeah not to revel in anyone missing out due to Covid, but that sure benefitted the Rangers here. Skinner was definitely out and Berard was a big long shot originally.
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It’s definitely emblematic of the times we are living in.

Berard and Skinner get a chance to show what they’ve got, while Henriksson loses out on a premier role for team Sweden.
 
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the biggest blow for us is henriksson missing out due to covid since he would have been sweden's #1 center. next was robertson who was not a lock given how deep canada is but he potentially has a big future in ny so really sucks not to get to see him.

i just hope skinner and berard are in the lineup and play to help ease that blow and give us some guys to watch/root for.
 

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Man really rooting hard for Berard excited to see him make and see what he can do. Has been hard lately with not much excitement coming from our forward prospects.
 
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Team USA is obviously considering our positional needs with playing Berard at center and Skinner at LD. Probably as reward for colluding to keep Lafreniere out of the tournament.
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The Rangers also gave Henriksson Covid to disrupt Sweden's top line. The streak ends this year.
 

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Hughes had a pretty disappointing freshman year so nice to see him off to a good start. He looks bigger than I thought he was.
 
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Leetch3 said:
Hughes had a pretty disappointing freshman year so nice to see him off to a good start. He looks bigger than I thought he was.
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Yeah hopefully he can keep it up, unlike Ciccolini who scored 2 in his first 2 and has now gone without a point in six straight (with a healthy scratch in there, too).
 

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on the subject of our forward group, aside from the elite prospects, it is pretty underwhelming to see what makes up the rest of our pool. vierling and berard offer some excitement/hope. not sure what the aversion is but we've really avoided the high risk high reward prospects. i'm not a proponent of just drafting for home runs in later rounds, or taking the youtube celebrity skillset picks who often have no actual hockey iq...but i do wish we'd be a little more aggressive in adding some more speed/skill as the draft goes along. we've taken a few monsters i have no hope in. some lunchpail guys that don't seem to offer much projection as anything. i know we place a high priority on character and that's on net a good thing. but i wish we'd try to find a bit more speed and tenacity in going that route. seems like our lunchpail guys are more average at everything hard workers at the junior level and thats not a great recipe for nhl upside. we're pretty set in the top 6 for a while looking forward, but it would be really nice to have pieces like an arvidsson, ryan hartman, konecny, coleman, gourde, hagelin etc...i know that list runs a range of where drafted and level of player they became but the point is more we could really use a buzzsaw guy or two that really add some pace and pestiness to a line for the bottom 6. and maybe you luck out and stumble into a marchand or brayden point. aside from finding a longer term solution for 2c and buying time for the bigger d prospects to arrive, a big missing element is a guy with really disruptive speed as a bit of a changeup and a compliment to more deliberate elements of the 3rd/4th line, something we haven't had since hagelin was moved. and then once in a while it would be nice to see us roll the dice on a home run or bust pick. seems like we value getting echl/ahl floors with slim nhl potential over players who may not make it as a pro if they don't boom...i get the asset valuation piece to an extent, but cmon take a big swing once in a while...building out hartford through the draft seems like as much of a waste as missing totally on a few picks, and it pays off 100fold if you stumble across the next datsyuk
 
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2014nyr said:
on the subject of our forward group, aside from the elite prospects, it is pretty underwhelming to see what makes up the rest of our pool. vierling and berard offer some excitement/hope. not sure what the aversion is but we've really avoided the high risk high reward prospects. i'm not a proponent of just drafting for home runs in later rounds, or taking the youtube celebrity skillset picks who often have no actual hockey iq...but i do wish we'd be a little more aggressive in adding some more speed/skill as the draft goes along. we've taken a few monsters i have no hope in. some lunchpail guys that don't seem to offer much projection as anything. i know we place a high priority on character and that's on net a good thing. but i wish we'd try to find a bit more speed and tenacity in going that route. seems like our lunchpail guys are more average at everything hard workers at the junior level and thats not a great recipe for nhl upside. we're pretty set in the top 6 for a while looking forward, but it would be really nice to have pieces like an arvidsson, ryan hartman, konecny, coleman, gourde, hagelin etc...i know that list runs a range of where drafted and level of player they became but the point is more we could really use a buzzsaw guy or two that really add some pace and pestiness to a line for the bottom 6. and maybe you luck out and stumble into a marchand or brayden point. aside from finding a longer term solution for 2c and buying time for the bigger d prospects to arrive, a big missing element is a guy with really disruptive speed as a bit of a changeup and a compliment to more deliberate elements of the 3rd/4th line, something we haven't had since hagelin was moved. and then once in a while it would be nice to see us roll the dice on a home run or bust pick. seems like we value getting echl/ahl floors with slim nhl potential over players who may not make it as a pro if they don't boom...i get the asset valuation piece to an extent, but cmon take a big swing once in a while...building out hartford through the draft seems like as much of a waste as missing totally on a few picks, and it pays off 100fold if you stumble across the next datsyuk
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I actually think we need better lunchpail guys. The Rangers have all kinds of skill at forward--Panarin, Zibanejad, Lafreniere, Kakko, Kreider, Buchnevich, Strome, Chytil, Kravtsov. That's a shitload of talent right there. What we don't have as much of is the nitty gritty guys who can do the more unappreciated work that makes the talent we have right now into a great team. We have some guys who could use more development--Lemieux, Howden and Gauthier and some other potential guys like Barron, Richards, Khodorenko, Cuylle, Gettinger and Berard.

To have a great team you need to have a mix of elements. Not everyone is going to score a lot of goals or put up a lot of points and guys who can kill penalties and win puck battles are very important too. St. Louis doesn't win the Cup in 19 without Sundqvist, Barbashev, Maroon, Blais and Sanford controlling the boards and turning over pucks. None of them are great players but they all have size and grit and 200' games. In 20 Tampa does the same thing bringing in Maroon, Goodrow and Coleman. These players provide some size and muscle--they help the pk--they fill holes in the lineup. They keep the pressure on and they're hard to play against.
 
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