Prospect Info: Rangers Prospect Thread (Player Stats/Info in Post #1; Updated 1.12.21)

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I would not be thrilled with drafting Pavel Buchnevich with a top 10 pick. At all.

I think people are a lot more calm right now because we just won the lottery two years in a row. Our drafting has otherwise been dreadful.

What do you expect from a 9th overall pick?

 

[ColonialsHockey10]

What do you expect from a 9th overall pick?

Something better than an inconsistent, one dimensional winger that puts up 50 points playing with Mike Zibanejad. And pouts when things don’t go his way.

Trouba, Schiefele, Hamilton, Granlund, Bailey, Meier and Sergachev all went 9th overall recently and are several orders of magnitude better than Buch.

Wonderful pick by the Rangers where he was taken, of course. But I’m not resigning to being happy if that’s what VK turns in to. And neither would a single poster on this board if we didn’t luck ourselves into Lafraniere and Kakko.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Something better than an inconsistent, one dimensional winger that puts up 50 points playing with Mike Zibanejad. And pouts when things don’t go his way.

Trouba, Schiefele, Hamilton, Granlund, Bailey, Meier and Sergachev all went 9th overall recently and are several orders of magnitude better than Buch.

Wonderful pick by the Rangers where he was taken, of course. But I’m not resigning to being happy if that’s what VK turns in to. And neither would a single poster on this board if we didn’t luck ourselves into Lafraniere and Kakko.

I'll just leave this here

As long as you stay away from the pitfall of thinking "We could have had this player in the 3rd round because we got Buchnevich in the 3rd round", I think it's okay to find the comparison discouraging.

Expecting more from a top-10 pick is normal. But at the same time I feel fans in general (across different fanbases) have flawed expectations of a player drafted in the 7-12 range. This isn't the NFL or NBA where you draft kids out of college at age 21-22. These are 18 year old kids and after the can't-miss prospects at the top (usually no more than 3) the drop off is significant.

Players drafted in the same range as Kravtsov include Couture, Hartnell, Kopitar, Granlund, Carter and Couturier but on the other end of the spectrum you have guys like Olesz, Picard, Hammill, Skille, Sheppard and Glennie. A pick in the latter half of the top-10 is very much hit-or-miss but we tend to focus on the successful picks rather than managing our expectations. It's what fans do. Can't blame them. But it's important to stay grounded when a player has a good season early on. A lesson I need to teach myself from time to time as well

 

[Irishguy42]

Buch gets criminally underrated. He's such a great player in the offensive end and in transition, and he's decent enough in his own end.

If Kravtsov turns into a Buchnevich...that's a win. Easily.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

If Kravstov is Buch with better wheels we came out on top.

Buch's lack of speed is the one thing holding him back from really being a force.

 

[UnSandvich]

...do i really have to post those numbers again showing how much Kreider & Zibanejad improved playing with Buch vs. without him?

 

[nyr2k2]

Berard made his debut tonight. -1 and 3 SOG.

 

[B17 Apricots]

Buch is definitely a candidate for a guy with another level to reach. I dont think we'll ever see a cold streak from him as monstrous as the one he had last season

 

[usekakkorightquinn]

Buch is definitely a candidate for a guy with another level to reach. I dont think we'll ever see a cold streak from him as monstrous as the one he had last season

Clearly you don't realize Buchnevich is a mental midget. I can't wait for them to trade this guy. He's not a winning player.

 

[UnSandvich]

Clearly you don't realize Buchnevich is a mental midget. I can't wait for them to trade this guy. He's not a winning player.

Genuinely curious here, do you ever get tired of posting stupid things? Like it's just a constant tirade of them from you, mate

 

[nyr2k2]

Jones was scoreless, E, 2 PIM, 2 SOG.

 

[Miamipuck]

The irony has me smiling ear to ear.

 

[nyr2k2]

Providence getting buried, Berard -3 through 2.

EDIT: He led his team with 4 shots!

...he was also a team-worst -5 in a 9-0 loss.

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

Providence getting buried, Berard -3 through 2.

EDIT: He led his team with 4 shots!

...he was also a team-worst -5 in a 9-0 loss.

WOOOOOF

 

[Irishguy42]

Shit happens.

 

[bl02]

Minus 8 lol. Hope He Has a better showing at the WJC camp.

 

[bigdog16]

I know stat heads will say its a useless stats. But friggin -8 in one game is absolutely atrocious. That might be the worst personal +/- for a player iv ever seen. Pretty embarassing

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I know stat heads will say its a useless stats. But friggin -8 in one game is absolutely atrocious. That might be the worst personal +/- for a player iv ever seen. Pretty embarassing

In NHL history, there has never been a player hitting a -8 in a single game. The worst is -7 and that only happened 9 times since 1979

 

[egelband]

If anyone was curious, Lias Andersson has an underwhelming line of 3-4-7 in 13 games played at the moment. His team lost to Edström's team today.

Did he throw his turkey pot pie into the stands afterword?

 

[egelband]

Lindbum has given up 5 goals on 24 shots through 2.

Probably his defensemen screening him from seeing the shots.

 

[bigdog16]

In NHL history, there has never been a player hitting a -8 in a single game. The worst is -7 and that only happened 9 times since 1979

That is insane!! Again i dont think +\- is the end all be all. But the coaches and the players see that and think yeesh... But its just more leverage for the kids who got scratched - why is he playing type of thing

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

That is insane!! Again i dont think +\- is the end all be all. But the coaches and the players see that and think yeesh... But its just more leverage for the kids who got scratched - why is he playing type of thing

The only positive spin I can put on this is that to be -8 you have to be on the ice for 8 goals against, meaning you have to be playing a lot of minutes.

Berard played on the top line twice now, and honestly, against a really good team they were never supposed to beat. Let's hope he has some better numbers in the upcoming weeks when they hopefully play teams who are on the same level as Providence is

 

[RGY]

The only positive spin I can put on this is that to be -8 you have to be on the ice for 8 goals against, meaning you have to be playing a lot of minutes.

Berard played on the top line twice now, and honestly, against a really good team they were never supposed to beat. Let's hope he has some better numbers in the upcoming weeks when they hopefully play teams who are on the same level as Providence is

A lot of minutes but geez was he setting up the other team for some of these goals?? Lol a -8 is wild haha.

Its one game to forget, no biggie.

 

[nyr2k2]

WOOOOOF

I know stat heads will say its a useless stats. But friggin -8 in one game is absolutely atrocious. That might be the worst personal +/- for a player iv ever seen. Pretty embarassing

In NHL history, there has never been a player hitting a -8 in a single game. The worst is -7 and that only happened 9 times since 1979

A lot of minutes but geez was he setting up the other team for some of these goals?? Lol a -8 is wild haha.

Its one game to forget, no biggie.

His line was revised to -4. He was on for two ESG and on the PP when two SHG were conceded.

There were two players on his team that were -5 and one who was -6.

Game sheet: Printable Game Summary

 

[Leetch3]

1st pair for jones