Prospect Info: Rangers Prospect Thread (Player Stats/Info in Post #1; Updated 1.12.21)
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We have fans so delusional here they think our defense will have Reunanen, Jones, Fox, Lundkvist and DeAngelo on it. Welcome to the land of the short and small that can't ever clear the crease.
Pick up the phone on Line 2 please. It's the kettle.
Amazing Kreiderman
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You're acting as if this fanbase isn't excited about Miller, Robertson and Schneider
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I don't want none of those tallies on my team.
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Liiga is postponing all games between 12/3 and 12/26 in an effort to battle the recent increase in COVID cases.
No games for Lauri and Tarmo, and the speculation about Kakko being loaned to TPS can be put to rest as well
No games for Lauri and Tarmo, and the speculation about Kakko being loaned to TPS can be put to rest as well
Edstrom was +1 in 12:56 of TOI.
Henriksson was -1 with 2 SOG in about 16 minutes. Not bad considering his team lost 8-0.
Lundkvist had no stats, outside 2 hits, in 18:53.
No stats for Sjalin in 16:19.
Kravtsov -1 in 20:21.
Rykov +1 in 14:23.
Henriksson was -1 with 2 SOG in about 16 minutes. Not bad considering his team lost 8-0.
Lundkvist had no stats, outside 2 hits, in 18:53.
No stats for Sjalin in 16:19.
Kravtsov -1 in 20:21.
Rykov +1 in 14:23.
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Unfortunately I feel like this is what our updates look like every day. Goose eggs across the board.
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Overall this season, I'd group them this way:
Postive:
Lundkvist
Pajuniemi
Själin
Reunanen
Jones
Ciccolini
Neutral:
Edström
Húska
Lindbom
Tärnström
Rykov
Disappointing:
Aaltonen
Henriksson
Hájek
Kravtsov
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I also think people need to realize that if we're fortunate, maybe about 1/3 of the names on any given snapshot of our prospect list will actually play in the NHL or have an impact for us --- and that's with a farm system that is widely seen as being no worse than top 10 at the moment.
I don't know if people fully accept that we'll be doing very well if 12 of our top 20 prospects fail to make the NHL.
Ciccolini has a couple goals which is great but has also been scratched twice in six games. So, IDK about him. SSS with him so it's too early to say.
Lindbom has a .902 SV% and 2.98 GAA in Allsvenskan. He's had a few good games but otherwise his overall performance has been poor, as it has been since we drafted him.
I'd drop both of them a tier. I'm also a bit disappointed that Tarnstrom hasn't stood out more in J20. It's put him Neutral, Leans Disappointing. LOL.
I'd maybe label it and break it down like:
Stock Rising: Sjalin
Stock Neutral: Lundkvist, Pajuniemi, Reunanen, Tarnstrom, Ollas
Stock Falling: Aaltonen, Edstrom, Hajek, Henriksson, Kravtsov, Ragnarsson, Rykov, Lindbom
Too Early: Jones, Ciccolini, Huska
The guys in the "neutral" category--they are like "meets expectations. Lundkvist is having a solid if unspectacular season; it's a good year but it's generally what I expected and doesn't move the needle either way.
I'm torn on where to place Edstrom. What little I've seen he's looked pretty good, and did earn that look on the top line for a couple games, but has otherwise been stuck on the fourth line without much production. And, as mentioned, Tarnstrom having 8 points in 12 games in J20--6th on his team in PPG and a lower rate than he posted last year. Not impressive.
This is why depth is good to have; even "good" prospects still fail at a high rate. Also, much like real stocks, they can turn around pretty quickly. A month ago and Kravtsov is big time in the "rising" category, for example.
It sure seems that way. I think bottom line is we are gonna just have to show patience even with guys who we think have lots potential like Kravtsov because they just right now they don't look close to being ready to crack the big club.
Hoping we get to see someone like Berard surprise us and have a good WJC.
Just not good if we have Lias (failure) and Kravtsov bust. Having back to back top 10 picks fail is not very good. Hopefully Kakko and Lafreniere are what we expect and more but not sure I can give credit since those were obvious picks.
Time will tell I guess.
Surprised to see the opinions on Kravtsov’s stock falling. To me, it crashed very hard last season and we have at least seen some signs of life. He’s had had good chances since the early hot streak. A 20/21 year old finishing above 0.5 ppg in the KHL and showing flashes of brilliance would be a fine rebound.
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Eh he has 12 points in 25 games. Two seasons ago when he was 18/19 he had 21 points in 50 games on a terrible team that literally couldn't score (102 goals in 62 games). Now he's running just three points ahead of that pace on a dramatically better team while two years older ? I'd rather see consistent offensive production than flashes of brilliance. He could easily pick up the pace and boost his stock, but I'm looking at the season as a whole and at the moment, I don't see it as a positive relative to what he has already done.
Last year was the "just being in the SHL is great!" season for Edstrom, IMO. It was a surprise when he made the team and a surprise that he stuck. He was expected to make the team this year. He's running a hair above his production from last year. Jesper Fast went from 16 points in 36 games in his D+1 season to 16 in 21 his D+2 season before that awful broken ankle. Fast was substantially ahead of Edstrom in every facet of the game other than physical play. I'm not sure how they're following the same track, other than surprising in their D+1 season. The magnitude of what Fast did is far greater than what Edstrom has done.
I don't think Edstrom's season is bad, by any means, and I would definitely consider him for the "neutral stock" label. But, I was hoping he'd take a bit more of a step forward--like it appeared he might be doing when they pushed him up the lineup for a couple games. He's getting good TOI which is positive but I want to see production. 1+1 in a game against Farjestad and 1 point in his other 10 games. IDK, maybe I'm being a tad harsh on him but I don't see his stock as having improved at all, to this point. Neutral at best.
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. . . has to fill out but has a lot of Brian Boyle in him. Towering guy on skates.
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I just think we're waaaay too early for that.
Kravtsov really isn't busting yet. What he is doing is providing doubts as to whether he's going hit the high-end ceiling people hoped for.
But there are many levels between high-end ceiling and failure. It's not that black and white.
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Really surprised you put Kravtsov in the disappointing category. Personally I'd put him in the positive category though I can see how some could view his performance as neutral. But you have Rykov and Tarnstrom in the neutral - two prospects that IMO are way more likely to be viewed so far as disappointing than Kravtsov even with a difference in level of expectations.
Yes, he recently got on a cold streak (after a super hot start) but he had an injury break in-between that surely contributed, he still gets positive reviews from the coaching stuff and teammates during this streak, and he continue to be Traktors' top winger both in line assignments and ice time.
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