Speculation: Rangers Head Coach Search (Laviolette being finalized? According to Vince and Friedman)

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Just read the NHL.com article about Patrick Roy and it sure sounds to be like a) he wants an NHL job and b) he’s willing to go to confession about the issues he left in Colorado.

Translation…please pick up the phone Chris!

And while I’m here, beware Dan Blysma. There’s a reason he has gotten a sniff since he left Buffalo. Awful reputation around the game. Not the kind of rehabilitation project I’d want to take on.

Part of the problem of them thinking they're the smartest people in the room/that everyone thinks the same.
If you think you are the smartest person in the room, it’s time to go to another room.
 
There are NHL teams that are Tier I - original 6
Tier II - St. Louis, Philly, etc.
Tier III - Arizona

Any coach worth his salt is gonna wanna coach a tier I team. And from what I've heard, the NY Rangers, as an organization, is tops to play / work for. Everything is just better. And some even say a little too good, which relaxes a player's motivation at times. There will always be personal reasons why a coach would turn down NY (family, location, issues with the GM / owner) but if you want to add a stand -out experience to your resume, you don't turn down the Rangers.

Thank you AK 27, I appreciate your thinking but I am not sure if I am looking at it through my Ranger fan glasses. While as a coach or player, you are not always at your home ice location but like you said, family, location is huge.

I am sure right now Vegas, Tampa Bay, Florida may be in that Tier 1.
 
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I know there is a debate on this and the roster thread about this current roster so I will just offer my humble opinion and how the coaching decision may factor.

Personally, I think this is a roster that is capable of winning the cup with the right signings/trades to balance the lineup. It isn't perfect and some players may be making more for their role but it is still filled with good players (which includes Panarin - as he has been a hot topic).

I don't know the answers but are potential coaches looking at the Rangers and saying I am being handed a roster with one of the best goalies in the league. A very talented and mostly balanced top 5 (with the Mikkola spot open). Two forwards that have not reached their potential but are still young in Kaapo Kakko and Alexis Lafreniere. We can name the rest. This is a win-now team that I can win with.

--OR--

I am handed a team with about 5 or 6 NMCs or modified NTCs. There is little cap space to add the type of player(s) I would like to bring in. Is it possible coaches are also counter-interviewing Drury and any other front office personnel and requesting, if you want me to coach this team, PLAYER XXX doesn't fit and would you be willing to move?
 
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Or we can stop deluding ourselves that boy wonder is some genius with an elaborate plan and that based on his moves he’s just mostly making shit up as he goes
I’m not saying he’s a genius…just talking about the coaching hire, he doesn’t seem to talk to the media yet people are reacting to every little piece of guessing by the media as if they know his motivations…I’m just saying let it play out before we lynch him
 
Keefe? the embarrassing clown on the biggest laughing stock in the NHL, give me Hynes!

It just gets worse & worse, we’re trading down from a house to a paper clip with each new name that gets introduced

I apologize for everything Gallant, you big beautiful man. I loved the way you used your tie as a napkin, showed you came from humble beginnings and don’t stick your nose up at anybody, a down to earth guy.
Keefe family lives about 15 minutes from me in Stompin Tom Connor country -Skinner's Pond PEI . The Hockey Song man ! So...I have the Keefe connections 15 minutes one way....and the Turk Gallant family members 40 minutes the other way and all I need now is for Dave Cameron to be hired and he lives 10 minutes away in another direction ! It's a small island and we also still have Gardiner MacDougall the top coach in Canada not in the NHL who's sister lives 3 minutes from me LOL.....I kid you not !
 
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Just read the NHL.com article about Patrick Roy and it sure sounds to be like a) he wants an NHL job and b) he’s willing to go to confession about the issues he left in Colorado.

Translation…please pick up the phone Chris!

And while I’m here, beware Dan Blysma. There’s a reason he has gotten a sniff since he left Buffalo. Awful reputation around the game. Not the kind of rehabilitation project I’d want to take on.


If you think you are the smartest person in the room, it’s time to go to another room.
That’s why I go into empty rooms ;)
 
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As for the possibility that the Rangers can win a Cup with just a few tweaks to the roster and the right coach: watching Vegas and FLA, it is not hard to be impressed with the pace and physicality they play with. I know it is the Cup final so the intensity is ratcheted up (and with the Ranger debacle against the Devils fresh in mind), but it just so hard to picture this team playing with that sort of pace, intensity, and physicality. Kind of discouraging...
 
As for the possibility that the Rangers can win a Cup with just a few tweaks to the roster and the right coach: watching Vegas and FLA, it is not hard to be impressed with the pace and physicality they play with. I know it is the Cup final so the intensity is ratcheted up (and with the Ranger debacle against the Devils fresh in mind), but it just so hard to picture this team playing with that sort of pace, intensity, and physicality. Kind of discouraging...
We handled both teams in the regular season pretty easily. In a league where nobody has the cap space to truly ice a great team, you're never that far away.

Playing with pace and intensity isn't difficult and it isn't special. If the Rangers can't figure out how to do it, then hiring this coach should be management's last kick at the can.
 
As for the possibility that the Rangers can win a Cup with just a few tweaks to the roster and the right coach: watching Vegas and FLA, it is not hard to be impressed with the pace and physicality they play with. I know it is the Cup final so the intensity is ratcheted up (and with the Ranger debacle against the Devils fresh in mind), but it just so hard to picture this team playing with that sort of pace, intensity, and physicality. Kind of discouraging...

You need players that battle with intensity. Rangers roster is too passive and emotionless for that type of playoff hockey. Last year was a fluke vs the Bolts. Too soft one dimensional teams go nowhere. It’s what Gorton and Drury built. Great job morons
 
Everyone has expensive stars.

Good teams round out the lineup with contributions for pennies on the dollar. Great teams make every acquisition better.

The Rangers don't get anything out of their cheap options. @Fitzy and others have posted about how low-key horrendous our drafting has been since the Kreider/Stepan/Hagelin class of the early to mid 2010's. They're right.

Young players don't develop in this organization. Established players either get worse here (Panarin, Trouba) or sacrifice large portions of the game to find a niche (Zibanejad). Trocheck quietly had an excellent season but sucked in the playoffs and I would be wholly unsurprised if he wasn't good next year.

We're becoming talent poison. It has to change. Part of it is coaching but it's not all coaching.
 
As for the possibility that the Rangers can win a Cup with just a few tweaks to the roster and the right coach: watching Vegas and FLA, it is not hard to be impressed with the pace and physicality they play with. I know it is the Cup final so the intensity is ratcheted up (and with the Ranger debacle against the Devils fresh in mind), but it just so hard to picture this team playing with that sort of pace, intensity, and physicality. Kind of discouraging...
Vegas missed the playoffs last year. Florida won the president's trophy, beat Washington, then got spanked by Tampa. This year they squeaked into the playoffs and are playing a much more playoff-ready style. A lot can change in a year.
 
Being effective and playing with intensity is constantly conflated.

Everyone saw the overtime winner and said "gee go to the net nobody wants to do that."

Fact of the matter is, nobody on our team makes the zone entry and quick pass Bennett did without losing the puck.

I don't know that they tell guys in this organization but nothing deteriorates on the Rangers like hands in traffic and moving the puck quickly.

See: Kakko, Kaapo.
 
Being effective and playing with intensity is constantly conflated.

Everyone saw the overtime winner and said "gee go to the net nobody wants to do that."

Fact of the matter is, nobody on our team makes the zone entry and quick pass Bennett did without losing the puck.

I don't know that they tell guys in this organization but nothing deteriorates on the Rangers like hands in traffic and moving the puck quickly.

See: Kakko, Kaapo.
The entire transition game is f***ed. Dmen can't move the puck under pressure, forwards can't receive difficult passes while moving towards the opposition's blueline through the neutral zone, our zone entries are, as you note, nothing special, and on top of it all we have no speed to stretch the ice when other options aren't working which saved our ass under AV on a number of occasions.

NYR are good when they've got possession in the O zone, and not terrible at holding serve defensively when hemmed in their own zone. It's getting from A to B (And defending B to A) where we really need a wholesale change. Has to be personnel and style.
 
The entire transition game is f***ed. Dmen can't move the puck under pressure, forwards can't receive difficult passes while moving towards the opposition's blueline through the neutral zone, our zone entries are, as you note, nothing special, and on top of it all we have no speed to stretch the ice when other options aren't working which saved our ass under AV on a number of occasions.

NYR are good when they've got possession in the O zone, and not terrible at holding serve defensively when hemmed in their own zone. It's getting from A to B (And defending B to A) where we really need a wholesale change. Has to be personnel and style.
there is no wholesale change to be made unless some of the fat cat$ are moved. I just don't see it happening.

We desperately need Trouba to have a bounce back year and Panarin to get back to his roots. Or the new head coach needs a magic wand.
 
if this guy Mickeyrangers on twitter is right about Messier being a real candidate idk man. I’d have no choice but to capitulate lol
 
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