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this idea that he would have been a real difference maker I think is far fetched. He's moving towards his mid 20's and he's still got a lot to prove.
Not at all. Jones was top 10 in the NHL in controlled entry denial %, top 5 in takeaways/60, 2nd to only Slavin in takeaway/giveaway ratio. He plays defense, he breaks up plays at the blue line, he wins battles, he moves the puck.
 
Everybody saying the right things but a big LOL to the reporters trying to navigate blaming Lavy for playing an injured Trouba and blaming Trouba for just being awful. Personally it’s pretty obvious he was hurt (with a dash of awful), and insulting the intelligence of the fans that watched him first hand is mildly infuriating.
 

Kakko's interview is the best one I've seen to far, and it supports why I think this kid is going to find his game. He is inherently honest, and has a very high level of self awareness, maturity and rational thinking. He knows hes not doing enough, he's not blaming anyone else. This is a kid whos going to be focused on his own game and making himself better. This is the exact reason why I never lost hope in Laffy, who is another kid that has very low ego and shows humility. Kakko has some serious skill, he needs to stick with it and continue to work on his game and adjust. He will be an impact player in this league.
 
Everybody saying the right things but a big LOL to the reporters trying to navigate blaming Lavy for playing an injured Trouba and blaming Trouba for just being awful. Personally it’s pretty obvious he was hurt (with a dash of awful), and insulting the intelligence of the fans that watched him first hand is mildly infuriating.
Yeah

People pay a lot of money to watch the Rangers. They should ice their best lineup.

I'd love to know the decision-making process for playing Trouba like this. Sometimes I think their main concern is not to alienate the segment of the fan base that thinks big defensemen who hit hard are the key to the kingdom.
 
Everybody saying the right things but a big LOL to the reporters trying to navigate blaming Lavy for playing an injured Trouba and blaming Trouba for just being awful. Personally it’s pretty obvious he was hurt (with a dash of awful), and insulting the intelligence of the fans that watched him first hand is mildly infuriating.


Actually seems like he wasn't.
 
Kakko's interview is the best one I've seen to far, and it supports why I think this kid is going to find his game. He is inherently honest, and has a very high level of self awareness, maturity and rational thinking. He knows hes not doing enough, he's not blaming anyone else. This is a kid whos going to be focused on his own game and making himself better. This is the exact reason why I never lost hope in Laffy, who is another kid that has very low ego and shows humility. Kakko has some serious skill, he needs to stick with it and continue to work on his game and adjust. He will be an impact player in this league.

Gold star for saying the right things now after whining to anyone who would listen his whole career that he deserves more icetime. Moral victories are kind of hollow when the org has cleared the decks for him to get more ice time, only for 2 coaches to be so unimpressed by his play that he was healthy scratched in 2 ECFs in 3 years. Where is the return on investment for the #2 overall pick? Im not throwing a parade and Im sure as shit not saying hes untouchable or it would be a "mistake" to trade him. Fact is he hasnt done a memorable thing since he got here.
 
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Kakko's interview is the best one I've seen to far, and it supports why I think this kid is going to find his game. He is inherently honest, and has a very high level of self awareness, maturity and rational thinking. He knows hes not doing enough, he's not blaming anyone else. This is a kid whos going to be focused on his own game and making himself better. This is the exact reason why I never lost hope in Laffy, who is another kid that has very low ego and shows humility. Kakko has some serious skill, he needs to stick with it and continue to work on his game and adjust. He will be an impact player in this league.

So, he's finally going to work on his skating in his fifth NHL offseason going into Year Six (I know he didn't say it, but he's ignored that for FIVE years, now)? I mean, you actually put stock into what he said, there?

Some of you guys will just believe anything in order to keep the hopium pumping.

Gold star for saying the right things now after whining to anyone who would listen his whole career that he deserves more icetime. Moral victories are kind of hollow when the org has cleared the decks for him to get more ice time, only for 2 coaches to be so unimpressed by his play that he was healthy scratched in 2 ECFs in 3 years. Where is the return on investment for the #2 overall pick? Im not throwing a parade and Im sure as shit not saying hes untouchable or it would be a "mistake" to trade him. Fact is he hasnt done a memorable thing since he got here.

The other stuff is just pure, uncut hopium. Having any confidence in Kakko improving all of a sudden after literally never improving a single aspect of his game is just delusional, frankly.
 
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Gold star for saying the right things now after whining to anyone who would listen his whole career that he deserves more icetime. Moral victories are kind of hollow when the org has cleared the decks for him to get more ice time, only for 2 coaches to be so unimpressed by his play that he was healthy scratched in 2 ECFs in 3 years. Where is the return on investment for the #2 overall pick? Im not throwing a parade and Im sure as shit not saying hes untouchable or it would be a "mistake" to trade him. Fact is he hasnt done a memorable thing since he got here.
He specifically said he got his ice time, got his chances and didn't do enough. That's self awareness. It's a personality trait that is surprisingly difficult to come by and he has it. It shows he will be adaptable and knows he needs to work on his game. It's not a moral victory, its an indication that he has what it takes mentally to think critically about himself and adapt.

Too often people see young players and think their games are set in stone. A lot of that has to do with the mental makeup and how capable they are of accurately assessing themselves. Players change a lot over their careers, especially from the time they are young. One of the biggest assets a player can have is the attitude and personality traits I pointed out.
 
His play literally never improved, so it is obvious that while maybe the damage was healed, it was still impacting him.

Again was that the injury or was that the jump in competition?

I'm inclined to believe the latter.

I don't think he was AS bad as people said he was against Carolina. There was a stretch where he was caught on the ice for 7 or 8 straight goals against and more than a few of those were just things that happened to happen while he was out there with out any direct correlation to anything he did wrong.

That wasn't the case against Florida. There were more than a few analysts who thought that he would struggle in this series both in terms of taking penalties and getting caught out of position being needlessly aggressive. They were right on both counts.

Those things aren't tied to his ankle, they're tied to how he plays.
 
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I've been waiting a few days, letting things settle before I posted. As I always say, I am likely the oldest poster here at 76 with Ranger memories going back to 1958, and have been a hardcore fan since 1963; that is 61 years. These are my thoughts:

As you go along in the playoffs, and the deeper you go, all your faults and shortcomings are exposed. We all know what the primary Ranger fault has been over the last few years: weak 5X5 play.

We are a team dependent on our power play. But power plays are totally unpredictable. Nobody knows why they work or why they fail. I once heard Neil Smith say that "power plays are like love. Nobody knows why you fall in love. Nobody knows why you fall out of love." It is not even a matter of tactics or practice. Sometimes they click, sometimes they don't. Doesn't even matter who is out there. Our power play did not produce. The result was we could not overcome our 5X5 play. That spelled doom.

This year disproves the old adage about hot goaltending. To win a Cup you need more than a hot goalie. He might carry you for a round or two, but eventually, the rest of the team needs to produce. It didn't.

Biggest problem moving forward is Zibanajad. Watching him all year, it was obvious that, he has passed the peak of his career and his skills are beginning to deteriorate. In the near past, Zibanjad's play powered the Rangers. He can no longer do that. I don't question his effort or dedication. Some can adjust their game as they age. CK has been able to do that, using assets other than his speed, namely his size and strength. I don't see any similar transition for MZ. This is a big problem for us: without a dominant center, we cannot compete with teams that have one. We don't have one in the system and with our draft position, don't see us drafting one. This disturbs me more than anything, looking forward.

But, it was a great year, one of my favorites in my 61 years as a fan. I think when we look back over the summer as this team, we will all rue the penalty as the start of game four as the turning point of the playoffs, All OTs are tossups and we could have won that game. That hurts. I do wonder whether, if we had a healthy Fox, things would have turned our differently.

I do know one thing: come what may, in mid-August I will begin to crave hearing Sam Rosen's voice and hearing the Ranger goal song. Life goes on, as disappointing as this playoff run was. And it certainly was. But, it was a great season.
 
So, he's finally going to work on his skating in his fifth NHL offseason going into Year Six (I know he didn't say it, but he's ignored that for FIVE years, now)? I mean, you actually put stock into what he said, there?

Some of you guys will just believe anything in order to keep the hopium pumping.
Plenty told me that about Laffy as well. Skating is one of the skills that can absolutely be worked on, especially in the off season.
 
So, he's finally going to work on his skating in his fifth NHL offseason going into Year Six (I know he didn't say it, but he's ignored that for FIVE years, now)? I mean, you actually put stock into what he said, there?

Some of you guys will just believe anything in order to keep the hopium pumping.



The other stuff is just pure, uncut hopium. Having any confidence in Kakko improving all of a sudden after literally never improving a single aspect of his game is just delusional, frankly.
Speaking of hopium Jon... ;)

This is not surprising. As I said a number of times, it was OBVIOUS he was seriously injured. You don't go from not missing big hits to routinely missing them overnight like he did.

His play literally never improved, so it is obvious that while maybe the damage was healed, it was still impacting him.
 
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