Confirmed with Link: Rangers Acquire Rights to RW Barclay Goodrow; Signs Contract (6 Years, $3.642M AAV)

[Mugless]

He could still sign with us after a bidding war. My point is, to forego free agency, we're likely paying him top dollar. I'll be pleasantly surprised with a reasonable contract, but I think we should be prepared for an overpay.

 

[cwede]

Free agency is a week away. Why would he sign here early and miss out on a potential bidding war? Seems like we will be overpaying him.

Before teams acquire UFA rights, they usually touch base with the player to see if there's mutual interest. And of course he was part of our prospect camp 9 years ago, so that might play into it a little bit, being familiar with the organization to a degree.

Because maybe the Rangers are at the top of his list and he wants to come here knowing the situation he is coming into with all the young talent and he may take slightly less if he thinks he can win another cup in the future.

because is a bidding war the only important thing?
$25M vs $20M will not change his quality of life, financial security, or his kids' financial prospects

too often folks overlook a concept - a benefit of having money is not having to make decisions based strictly on money

he's an Ontario guy whose NHL career has been spent w West Coast and Florida teams - harder travel and further from family
if he likes the ideas of reversing those,
if he has a good feeling about the the opportunity - the team, the coach, the role

why not wrap it up quickly, and begin the off-season?
training camp is not that far off ..

 

[SA16]

because is a bidding war the only important thing?
$25M vs $20M will not change his quality of life, financial security, or his kids financial prospects

too often folks overlook a concept - a benefit of having money is not having to make decisions based strictly on money

he's an Ontario guy whose NHL career has been spent w West Coast and Florida teams - harder travel and further from family
if he likes the ideas of reversing those,
if he has a good feeling about the the opportunity - the team, the coach, the role

why not wrap it up quickly, and begin the off-season?
training camp is not that far off ..

Because there is zero disadvantage for him to just wait another few days. I never understand why players trade for teams that acquire their rights. He will be in demand regardless. He doesn't have to worry about an offer disappearing and losing a lot of money. Why wouldn't you wait a few more days, listen to what other teams have to say, and then decide before rushing into an important decision?

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Because there is zero disadvantage for him to just wait another few days. I never understand why players trade for teams that acquire their rights. He will be in demand regardless. He doesn't have to worry about an offer disappearing and losing a lot of money. Why wouldn't you wait a few more days, listen to what other teams have to say, and then decide before rushing into an important decision?

Because a good agent will already have a sense of his market and will factor that into the negotiation.

 

[SA16]

Because a good agent will already have a sense of his market and will factor that into the negotiation.

Ok but what is the disadvantage in waiting from the 22nd when he can sign with the Rangers to the 28th when he is a UFA? I would think when you're about to make a huge decision determining your life the next several years, as well as what likely is the rest of your career, you would probably be best taking some time and thinking it through rather than rushing into the first offer.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Ok but what is the disadvantage in waiting from the 22nd when he can sign with the Rangers to the 28th when he is a UFA?

1) Get it done and out of the way. Lots of people like to decide major life choices as soon as possible and lock them down.
2) More practically, his impending ability to talk to everyone is a hammer/deadline the agent can reference to push the deal to conclusion.

 

[will1066]

Vince's article today, he said he thinks the Goodrow deal will be $4M+.

"It sounds like it's going to take a five- or six-year deal, but the average annual value guesses are all over the place. I can tell you it won't be in the $2 million-to-$3 million range some fans are hoping for. My sense is $4 million per season, give or take, which is a significant contract for a bottom-six player."

NY Rangers expansion draft: What to make of Barclay Goodrow, others

I've seen this general structure repeated several other places. Maybe it ends up bogus, but a lot of people are getting the same info on it.

Having read the article, Goodrow is in the driver's seat, imo. Is the organization willing to pay for all of his potential benefits, tangible and somewhat intangible, i.e., making the team harder to play again & 2 championship rings.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Because maybe the Rangers are at the top of his list and he wants to come here knowing the situation he is coming into with all the young talent and he may take slightly less if he thinks he can win another cup in the future.

It possible, but I'd think a guy like him who's already won two Cups at this point in his career would want to get as much as possible in what will likely be his one and only shot at the most lucrative contract of his career... I mean wouldn't you?

I think we will either have to deal with a higher hit or longer term than we would like.

6 years under 4M or ~4M+ for 5 or less.

I said earlier it would be nice to see him come in around 3.25-3.5. But I think to get that done we are looking at a longer term.

20-21M contract. Is he looking at 25M on the open market? not sure

 

[n8]

I can't think of a time where they haven't.

Jimmy Vesey got traded to Buffalo and ditched on them before signing with us. Ironic we traded him back to Buffalo

 

[nyr2k2]

1) Get it done and out of the way. Lots of people like to decide major life choices as soon as possible and lock them down.
2) More practically, his impending ability to talk to everyone is a hammer/deadline the agent can reference to push the deal to conclusion.

I think if you actively want to play for a certain organization and you have received an offer from that organization that is where you hope other offers would land, there's little downside to getting it done.

The last time I changed jobs was the first time I actually had two places pursuing me at the same time. There was one job that I really wanted and another that was intriguing but I wasn't as into. My current employer made the first offer and it was a good one, so I took it and never looked back. The second place did make an offer several days later that was worth close to $10K more, but I was really happy with the first offer and had/have absolutely zero regrets.

I remember really fretting about it at the time, fearing I'd misplay my hand, make the wrong choice, etc. In the end, committing to the place I really wanted to be was totally the right thing to do.

 

[TominNC]

Who knows if NY is where he WANTS to play? It might be at or near the top of his list but why not listen. Maybe his agent even suggested he wait. Sometimes you can’t just DO something because fans are impatient.

 

[SA16]

I think if you actively want to play for a certain organization and you have received an offer from that organization that is where you hope other offers would land, there's little downside to getting it done.

The last time I changed jobs was the first time I actually had two places pursuing me at the same time. There was one job that I really wanted and another that was intriguing but I wasn't as into. My current employer made the first offer and it was a good one, so I took it and never looked back. The second place did make an offer several days later that was worth close to $10K more, but I was really happy with the first offer and had/have absolutely zero regrets.

I remember really fretting about it at the time, fearing I'd misplay my hand, make the wrong choice, etc. In the end, committing to the place I really wanted to be was totally the right thing to do.

The difference is you were allowed to talk to other companies during this time period. He is not. His market is limited to one (two if counting Seattle). On the 28th his market is up to 32 teams. What attachment does he even have to the Rangers other than they traded for his rights and he was in their development camp before? He's not from the area. He hasn't played here before. Not to mention, depending on what you do, you/most people presumably would have had the option to accept the first job and then just quit and join the second company a few weeks later if they gave you a better offer/you decided you liked them better after talking to them while he does not

 

[PuckLuck3043]

It possible, but I'd think a guy like him who's already won two Cups at this point in his career would want to get as much as possible in what will likely be his one and only shot at the most lucrative contract of his career... I mean wouldn't you?

I think we will either have to deal with a higher hit or longer term than we would like.

6 years under 4M or ~4M+ for 5 or less.

I said earlier it would be nice to see him come in around 3.25-3.5. But I think to get that done we are looking at a longer term.

20-21M contract. Is he looking at 25M on the open market? not sure

I have turned down jobs that were more money because I didn't see it as a better fit and felt I would be unhappy in my role. Thats just me. If he got 4 million from the rangers and he could get 4.5 from Winnipeg does that mean he should take the Winnipeg offer? I think he knows what he wants and what he is doing.

 

[nyr2k2]

The difference is you were allowed to talk to other companies during this time period. He is not. His market is limited to one (two if counting Seattle). On the 28th his market is up to 32 teams. What attachment does he even have to the Rangers other than they traded for his rights and he was in their development camp before? He's not from the area. He hasn't played here before.

My point is that if there's a place that's attractive to you, something you want to do, and you are presented with an offer you like, it's not crazy go jump at the chance--whether you have two entities competing for your service or 32. Of course if your ultimate goal is to absolutely maximize your earnings potential above all else, you'd want to wait it out; maybe that's not his priority?

I have no idea what his interest in the Rangers or New York would be, but all indications are that he is interested and does want to play here.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

I have turned down jobs that were more money because I didn't see it as a better fit and felt I would be unhappy in my role. Thats just me. If he got 4 million from the rangers and he could get 4.5 from Winnipeg does that mean he should take the Winnipeg offer? I think he knows what he wants and what he is doing.

Not doubting that, I agree. Im sure its a bit of everything at this point. Trying to have his cake and eat it too.

I think the deal is as good as done, it will be interesting to see what Drury gets him to settle at.

And I also wonder - in some alternate universe - the deal Gorton would negotiate under the same situation.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Truth is as fans we never really know the full story and the motivation factors.

Goodrow may have a second cousin he grew up with that relocated to the NYC area that he's visited and he fell in love with the area and has heard the schools are great.

Or maybe his wife wants to start a residency as a doctor like Trouba's and Manhattan is the place to be.

Or as others have mentioned maybe hes done with the added travel from the West and South and is looking for an easier division.

But in the same regard I don't know how it would hurt to see all offers first to get where you want to be and get paid a little more.

Obviously things work a lot different in our normal industries and workforces around the world, but when it comes to raises in general, my wife has always said you will never G-E-T unless you A-S-K.

 

[NYR94]

 

[Zibanejbread]

woof

 

[RangersFan1994]

 

[Gardner McKay]

 

[MysticLeviathan]

that’s not horrible, but not great, assuming it is $3.6 and not any higher.

the good news is that even though the length is bad, the cap hit isn’t horribly obnoxious. hopefully he can be moved in the latter part of his career and the salary is frontloaded.

 

[AIexisLafreniereNYR]

That’s a lot of cheddar. I figured 3.7/4 years. But 6 years is long

 

[DaBadGuy7]

Not like that 6 year term at all, would have fine if it was 4x4 honestly

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Yeah thats not what I wanted to see.

 

[Gardner McKay]

Yeah thats not what I wanted to see.

You and me both...