Post-Game Talk: Rangers 2 - Canadiens 3

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They;ve also proved their power play is useless..

Its not the end of the world. A little adversity might not be a bad thing right now. You have to keep the foot on the gas if your going to win in the 3rd round.

Absolutely. Although the third period was exciting, it wasn't particularly impressive hockey by either team. Even though MTL were really slow tonight and it took them ages to figure out what to do with the puck, they played tight defense around their rookie goalie and it wasn't easy for the Rangers to break through. Most of those saves were pretty average, imo, especially when he had teammates regularly flinging themselves down to stop shots. Kudos to him for being a rookie goaltender and playing with poise, but his team rallied around him and made it hard for the Rangers to score.

This was good for the Rangers. They didn't completely gel tonight and it gives them additional time to figure out why before finishing up the series. (Although I would like to add that losing 90 seconds into OT was a completely shocking letdown for all the fans present.)
 
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This is what I don't understand. This stuff happens constantly, I've never even seen it penalized. And a few minutes earlier Prust goes for Stepan and gets nothing?

Spray someone with water? $5,000 FINE. Slew foot? Nah it's cool. Spear to the groin? Nah it's cool. Carry on.

I hear you- Shawn Thornton got a fine for spraying water on Subban in Game 5. Zdeno Chara got slashed on his hand, to which his fingers were fractured, no call, nothing. Pacioretti, knowing Chara's hand was injured, slashed him twice on that same hand, no call. Yet they call our guys monsters and every other name in the book, even though they have done some things with intent to injure and get away with it. We've pulled our hair out over these things the last few years- I actually hate playing against them in the playoffs- I truly don't enjoy the games at all. Any other team, I love to watch, this team, it's just a joke to play against them and put up with their fans, to boot.
 
Yeah, I really don't get the sky is falling crowd here. Before the game, everyone was saying "Split at home and we'll be fine", which can still happen and is also true. If we lose the next one, maybe panic a little.

If you ever start freaking out though, just think of someone telling you we'd be 2 wins from the Finals 10 games into the season. You'll feel so much better. Just enjoy the ride.
 
Rangers played well, that luck and a few calls Therien was talking about happened tonight. Rangers need to play the same on Sunday and the outcome will probably be much better.
 
Yeah, I really don't get the sky is falling crowd here. Before the game, everyone was saying "Split at home and we'll be fine", which can still happen and is also true. If we lose the next one, maybe panic a little.

If you ever start freaking out though, just think of someone telling you we'd be 2 wins from the Finals 10 games into the season. You'll feel so much better. Just enjoy the ride.

Michael Kay was saying that Ranger fans were "damaged" on his show today because they always expect things to go bad. I don't think it's nearly all Ranger fans, but I think there's a big chunk of Ranger fans who are also Jets & Mets fans where that is definitely the prevailing type of attitude. You barely see any of that from Yankee or Giants fans, and not much from Knicks fans although I'm totally confused at that one because they've mostly always sucked lol
 
people are saying " we just have to win sunday " and " relax...there is now way we were gonna sweep this series anyway"... etc...etc

what you're all failing to realize is that this was a game that should have been won easily and failing to capitalize on a situation like that is bad...real bad. That's why people are upset. Had we played poorly the result would have been more tolerable but they played well enough to score 5 goals and didn't put them away when we had the chance...You guys know this is that this is the Rangers we are talking about right? We just handed Montreal some life when we DOMINATED and failed to win...**** like this comes back at you

And everyone stop saying " we just gotta win Sunday " like it's no big thing because I can tell you all right now if we don't win Sunday you will all be looking back at this game negatively instead of you all being optimistic about our situation right now

Number one rule in the playoffs...kill them off as soon as possible...we DOMINATED and we should have been up 3-0 from being up 2-0...now we are only up one game 2-1 and this team plays inconsistently on home ice...that much WE DO KNOW!
 
people are saying " we just have to win sunday " and " relax...there is now way we were gonna sweep this series anyway"... etc...etc

what you're all failing to realize is that this was a game that should have been won easily and failing to capitalize on a situation like that is bad...real bad. That's why people are upset. Had we played poorly the result would have been more tolerable but they played well enough to score 5 goals and didn't put them away when we had the chance...You guys know this is that this is the Rangers we are talking about right? We just handed Montreal some life when we DOMINATED and failed to win...**** like this comes back at you

And everyone stop saying " we just gotta win Sunday " like it's no big thing because I can tell you all right now if we don't win Sunday you will all be looking back at this game negatively instead of you all being optimistic about our situation right now

Number one rule in the playoffs...kill them off as soon as possible...we DOMINATED and we should have been up 3-0 from being up 2-0...now we are only up one game 2-1 and this team plays inconsistently on home ice...that much WE DO KNOW!

And what you're failing to realize is that we could have easily lost game 2. That's how it goes, gotta move on to the next one. In the long run the odds work out, if you believe NYR is the better, smarter (AV) & more determined team, then in a 7 game they'll win 4. Let's just hope it doesn't anywhere near that far
 
There's two teams in every game. One got the bounces, one didn't. Forget it and move on.
 
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people are saying " we just have to win sunday " and " relax...there is now way we were gonna sweep this series anyway"... etc...etc

what you're all failing to realize is that this was a game that should have been won easily and failing to capitalize on a situation like that is bad...real bad. That's why people are upset. Had we played poorly the result would have been more tolerable but they played well enough to score 5 goals and didn't put them away when we had the chance...You guys know this is that this is the Rangers we are talking about right? We just handed Montreal some life when we DOMINATED and failed to win...**** like this comes back at you

And everyone stop saying " we just gotta win Sunday " like it's no big thing because I can tell you all right now if we don't win Sunday you will all be looking back at this game negatively instead of you all being optimistic about our situation right now

Number one rule in the playoffs...kill them off as soon as possible...we DOMINATED and we should have been up 3-0 from being up 2-0...now we are only up one game 2-1 and this team plays inconsistently on home ice...that much WE DO KNOW!

Sorry, I guess I just don't see any reason to trip or go into meltdown panic mode. I look at these two teams through three games and my personal take is simply this: I haven't seen anything from Montreal that remotely suggests they can beat the Rangers 4 out of 5 times between games 3 and 7. I have also observed a very composed NYR team this season that takes both wins and losses well in stride and tends to bounce back well from adverse results.

By all means, feel how you want to feel. But I like this team. There is good depth, good character, they're well coached, and I have every confidence the Rangers will re-group effectively and will take this in 5, 6 games at the very most. That said, I am not unrealistic and do not think they'll win every game. But I still do not see the Habs going 4 and 1 against us from games 3 to 7. The Rangers are well led and are not idiots, and they're a very good hockey team. They will re-group from this game and will prevail in this series.
 
Definitely a "who were we kidding feeling" after this game, this will be a long and tough series.

We gotta dig deep for G4. Getting Brassard back should help. Will Stepan play? I am a bit scared. Don't won't to hear about him feeling sick a few hrs after the game.
 
Do you ever post on here without criticizing other posters? Just curious. Just about every post you make is whining about something someone else wrote. I don't agree with the guy at all, but all you do is complain about his posting.

Way to redirect the blame. This is 100 times better than post a redundant comment or an agenda driven comment. Then I or other readers like myself also can pass on replying.
 
Now that I've calmed down (a bit), I want to talk about something positive from last night's game: Hagelin was back.

He's been scoring some goals in the playoffs, but his overall play has been as mediocre as it was in the reg. season. Last night he was at the top of his game though, and had his best performance since that amazing game vs the Hurricanes in his 3rd game after getting back from his injury to start the year.

Hags was creating scoring chances left and right, and most importantly generating a ton of controlled entries by carrying the puck into the Canadiens' zone. I feel that he hasn't been doing that much this year for some reason, and I think that's one of the primary reasons for his drop-off in play.

Anyway, this was the "5v5 first liner"-version of Carl Hagelin which we haven't seen much of this year where we instead mostly have gotten the "clueless 3rd liner"-version. Hopefully he'll continue to show up.
 
Dude, you are so typical of the Negative Nancy's here in the crowd that I keep referring to. "Terrified"? Really. "Blowing a chance to go to the finals" Really? "Your confidence in the team has been shaken so much"? Really?

And all this because we lost one *** game? I mean seriously dude get a ****en grip. I'll repeat once again what I've said a few times already: Did you or any of the other Nancy's in here actually think we were not going to lose another game the rest of the way? Seriously did you think that? Did you or the other Nancy's in here think we were going to win the first two games AT the Bell Centre? Yeah me neither but it happened.

The thing is the answers would be "yes". Look at the pre-game thread. Going up 2 games to none these posters were expecting a sweep (moreover feeling entitled that the Rangers should sweep). There is a severe lack of perspective here as we'll as any kind patience or a memory span that's longer than the last game played.
 
Blue blooded- Good point on Hagelin.

Now we need POULIOT to return too. I am afraid that Poo is hurt, he is not nearly as effective now as he has been previous in the year. I saw that he sat out practices, I am afraid that something is holding him back...
 
people are saying " we just have to win sunday " and " relax...there is now way we were gonna sweep this series anyway"... etc...etc

what you're all failing to realize is that this was a game that should have been won easily and failing to capitalize on a situation like that is bad...real bad. That's why people are upset. Had we played poorly the result would have been more tolerable but they played well enough to score 5 goals and didn't put them away when we had the chance...You guys know this is that this is the Rangers we are talking about right? We just handed Montreal some life when we DOMINATED and failed to win...**** like this comes back at you

And everyone stop saying " we just gotta win Sunday " like it's no big thing because I can tell you all right now if we don't win Sunday you will all be looking back at this game negatively instead of you all being optimistic about our situation right now

Number one rule in the playoffs...kill them off as soon as possible...we DOMINATED and we should have been up 3-0 from being up 2-0...now we are only up one game 2-1 and this team plays inconsistently on home ice...that much WE DO KNOW!

Yeah, but I don't think we quite was there. MTL backed down and invited us to their zone. They didn't put up a fight all over the ice, but they made sure not to shoot themselves in the foot giving stuff up for free.

We didn't respond well enough to that. Ie, we didn't create the grade A chances and we were a bit shaky defensively. I think we scrambled too much.

I think we need to be better on Sunday.
 
The Rangers didn't play well last night. They played well enough to win in game 2. They need to be much better. They need Brassard back. Its the playoffs. You don't want to doubt someone but Brassard is missing playoffs games with an injury which doesn't appear to be that serious. Take a shot and freeze it up. Leetch played with one arm at times in the playoffs.

The Rangers lost game 3 at home after taking the first two games on the road in 2008 against New Jersey and in 2009 against the Caps. The Rangers won game 4 in both series. In the Jersey game 3,Madden won the game in OT. Very similar to last night.

I love Kreider but he was horrible in the first 2 periods. He needs to be very good every night of every game. Hagelin was their best player. The 4th line wasn't much of a factor. They were rotating players with Carcillo getting tossed. Moore is much better on the line. The overall play of the 3rd line has dropped without Brassard. Pouliot misses the net on a 2 on 1. Misses the net and puck comes out the zone. Miller did that in Calgary and he barely played again. Moore's play dropped after game one on the 3rd line. He isn't suited for that role.

In the pre-game show,Sam Rosen said something about Brassard hoping to be back for game 4.

The Rangers need to wake up and stop reading the newspaper about how great they are.

Prust is an *******. Butt hurt over the Rangers not re-signing him. Sather made a comment to Brooks about Prust wanting too much money and Prust went to twitter to cry about it. Baby.
 
Hagelin was the best player on the ice, and that line was on fire. AV did a good job later in the game putting them out against the Patches line because our top line was consistently getting hemmed in by them. AV has been a revelation here in that regard.

Their crybaby coach got his wish, and they won a game. Shocker. None of their goals were all that impressive. People were taking a dump all over the Rangers 3 on 2 from game 2, saying a real NHL goalie (Price) stops that Nash goal, well the Habs first goal was pretty similarly weak. The other two, lol, talk about bounces. If the Rangers keep playing this way you have to think this is over in 5.

Yes, it sucks they didn't capitalize on a floundering Montreal and crush their hopes, but after winning 5 straight you knew this was coming. It was either last night or Sunday. Hopefully Sunday they take one back. Emotionally last night blew, but overall I'm still more than confident in this team.
 
Leading in the conference finals.

Won 5 in a row.

Lose one game in OT, and the whining reaches a fever pitch. It's like dealing with Yankees fans. Don't whine while crying about the fans of Montreal whining.

Anyone here who is freaked out about the current Rangers situation is nuts. You can't win every ****ing game.
 
Maybe this is sour grapes, but it's how I actually feel.

That game was lost when the refs missed the call on Prust, it completely changed the complexion of the game. The Rangers saw the replay and got angry, and took matters into their own hands. That "charging" call on Carcillo was absolute bull****, and then things were exacerbated when he got into it with the linesman. Which I also have some views on, but don't want to come off as the biggest homer of all time.

Instead of the Rangers having a 5 minute PP, and Prust ejected from the game which is what should have happened, and Montreal playing with 11 forwards; Montreal gets the first PP of the game on the softest of soft calls, and Carcillo gets ejected while Prust roams the ice as a free man.

And who knows, maybe it's a butterfly effect thing. Maybe Prust gets ejected, and by double shifting Patcioretty, he scores 7000 goals and the Rangers lose 7000-0, who knows?

I just really think it changed everything about how the Rangers wanted to play that game. I'm still furious over that hit. Prust should be done for at least three games, and hopefully they give him 4 so he's out for at least this series.

Tough game from Hank. You know he wants goal #1 back. Goal #3 is far from his fault, he was trying to put the puck into the corner, and it would have gone there, I have no problem with that. On this same token, I think this was Staal's worse game in a while. I thought for the most part aside from a few plays, the D as a whole was just very poor.

Tokarski was lights out. The Rangers made him look good on a couple of saves, but on a few more... wow. He left some juicy rebounds at points during the game, too. Need to do a better job of crashing the net and stopping there for rebounds, textbook by Hagelin on his goal. I just think it's so funny how some posters who are so quick to get on Hank, are also the ones who are so quick to praise the opposition netminder at the same time. The way they talk, you'd think Hank is the worst goalie in the world.

Unfortunate because now game four isn't really a *must* win, but really is a *must* win. Puts all the pressure back on us. Maybe that's a good thing for this team.
 
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Maybe this is sour grapes, but it's how I actually feel.

That game was lost when the refs missed the call on Prust, it completely changed the complexion of the game. The Rangers saw the replay and got angry, and took matters into their own hands. That "charging" call on Carcillo was absolute bull****, and then things were exacerbated when he got into it with the linesman. Which I also have some views on, but don't want to come off as the biggest homer of all time.

Instead of the Rangers having a 5 minute PP, and Prust ejected from the game which is what should have happened, and Montreal playing with 11 forwards; Montreal gets the first PP of the game on the softest of soft calls, and Carcillo gets ejected while Prust roams the ice as a free man.

And who knows, maybe it's a butterfly effect thing. Maybe Prust gets ejected, and by double shifting Patcioretty, he scores 7000 goals and the Rangers lose 7000-0, who knows?

I just really think it changed everything about how the Rangers wanted to play that game. I'm still furious over that hit. Prust should be done for at least three games, and hopefully they give him 4 so he's out for at least this series.

Tough game from Hank. You know he wants goal #1 back. Goal #3 is far from his fault, he was trying to put the puck into the corner, and it would have gone there, I have no problem with that. On this same token, I think this was Staal's worse game in a while. I thought for the most part aside from a few plays, the D as a whole was just very poor.

Tokarski was lights out. The Rangers made him look good on a couple of saves, but on a few more... wow. He left some juicy rebounds at points during the game, too. Need to do a better job of crashing the net and stopping there for rebounds, textbook by Hagelin on his goal.

Unfortunate because now game four isn't really a *must* win, but really is a *must* win. Puts all the pressure back on us. Maybe that's a good thing for this team.

Absolutely! Perfectly said, silverfish,
Thank you. I get so emotional, sometimes, I'm unable to articulate myself.
 
The pressure was back on us as soon as we went up 2-0 in the series. Montreal played like they had nothing to lose, and even that wasn't that great of a showing. If everybody plays a decent game Sunday the Rangers will win. I think we all know better by now than to expect it, though.
 
lucky bounces. damn. i was hoping we would at least pound and wear down their defensemen so they'd be beat up for game four.

And the famous Garden Ice was like....?

Now we have to win the next one at MSG. How is Brassard? Any chance his playing game four?
 
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