Golden_Jet
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Top 6 nothing to do with top 18, that was all your idea.It’s called telling someone to show their work when they make a bold claim.
Top 6 nothing to do with top 18, that was all your idea.It’s called telling someone to show their work when they make a bold claim.
That’s if you want to try and argue the sens top 9 is better than the panthers as well. Feel free to rank 1-12Top 6 nothing to do with top 18, that was all your idea.
lol , you must agree with the top 6 ranking like I said, cause all you keep coming back with is ya but top 9/12/18.That’s if you want to try and argue the sens top 9 is better than the panthers as well. Feel free to rank 1-12
Florida runned and gunned, and got shut down in the playoffs. A tale as old as time. Their forwards are nowhere near as good as their point totals would indicate."claims"
Lundell
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Bennett
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Stutzle
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Do you check anything before spouting off?
You'll hopefully have to admit that the post he quoted wasn't worth much more than a "Yikes" answer...Usually people bring more to the discussion than player X on my team is better than player Y on yours because I said so and if you don't agree it's because you don't watch the games.
And what has that to do with the point that @The90 and me were making?I mean this thread also contains some bold statements like Ottawa's top 6 and top 9>FLA
and Ottawa's D>FLA
so...
How so?Well it is
LOL. Yeah I hate that they got fake points.Florida runned and gunned, and got shut down in the playoffs. A tale as old as time. Their forwards are nowhere near as good as their point totals would indicate.
Who said anything about fake points?LOL. Yeah I hate that they got fake points.
How so?
lol , you must agree with the top 6 ranking like I said, cause all you keep coming back with is ya but top 9/12/18.
So to stop the never ending requests, and October lineups I assume, no Duclair as he out until all star game at least. To start season, probably be a different order as season unwinds, but going in:
1. Tkachuk
2. Batherson
3. Stützle
4. DeBrincat
5. Norris
6. Giroux
7. Pinto
8. Joseph
9. Formenton
10. Dylan Gambrell
11. Ridley Greig
12. Auston Watson
13. Parker Kelly
Now you can show your list, for your forwards.
Waiting for yours, all you guys seem to be able to do is demand demand. It’s becoming pitiful. Show us the money.Predict the Atlantic Standings, talking about Florida, Ottawa and Toronto who are teams in the Atlantic.
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And now that OTT defense, lay it on us.
5-10 pts short of a playoff spot is what I smell.
You claimed Ottawa had a better top 6. I said rank both teams top 6 in a combined 1-12 ranking to show your work. Instead you ranked Ottawa’s forwards.Waiting for yours, all you guys seem to be able to do is demand demand. It’s becoming pitiful. Show us the money.
Hasta la Vista
The cat (intended pun) is out of the bag.You claimed Ottawa had a better top 6. I said rank both teams top 6 in a combined 1-12 ranking to show your work. Instead you ranked Ottawa’s forwards.
Refreshing post for once. They’ve been rare lately.I’ll add a different view. Stutzle was my favorite player in that draft, really like him and think he’ll develop into a great player. Giroux is still a great player, didn’t do as well as I’d hope he would here but was still very solid. Debrincat has produced at every level and continues to do so, huge pick up for the sens. Batherson looks like a really solid young player. Brady is a player you love to have and hate to play against. Josh Norris, if he can build off this past season they’ll be sitting pretty longterm.
I’d rather have Barkov and Matt tkachuk over any one of those top-6. However, that top-6 as a whole could very well end up being better than our top-6. Despite that, I think we have a better bottom-6, goaltending duo, and D unit as well, even with the loss of Weegar (chabot is fantastic and zub looks like a great player too, I’d definitely like to have him).
I think we’ll be a better team overall, pending injuries. No need with this whole dick measuring contest with the top-6 F or top-2 D. Ottawa made big gains and look to be tracking very very well longterm with their young players. And for the first time we’re looking like a consistent playoff team also with exciting young players. We’re always used to be one of the laughing stocks of the league for pretty much our entire existence, jokes of attendance and fan loyalty and relocation gets really really exhausting, now that we have some real success for once people are coming after them more and more and doubting them at every turn from sustaining the success they’ve had the past two seasons, so I get being defensive but it’s not necessary, we’ll see how the season plays out.
lol , you must agree with the top 6 ranking like I said, cause all you keep coming back with is ya but top 9/12/18.
So to stop the never ending requests, and October lineups I assume, no Duclair as he out until all star game at least. To start season, probably be a different order as season unwinds, but going in:
1. Tkachuk
2. Batherson
3. Stützle
4. DeBrincat
5. Norris
6. Giroux
7. Pinto
8. Joseph
9. Formenton
10. Dylan Gambrell
11. Ridley Greig
12. Auston Watson
13. Parker Kelly
Now you can show your list, for your forwards.
Predict the Atlantic Standings, talking about Florida, Ottawa and Toronto who are teams in the Atlantic.
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And now that OTT defense, lay it on us.
5-10 pts short of a playoff spot is what I smell.
You claimed Ottawa had a better top 6. I said rank both teams top 6 in a combined 1-12 ranking to show your work. Instead you ranked Ottawa’s forwards.
Florida vs Ottawa lineupsThe cat (intended pun) is out of the bag.
You were talking about apples.
He was talking about oranges...
1. Tkachuk < M. Tkachuk
2. Batherson > Verhaeghe
3. Stützle = Lundell
4. DeBrincat = Reinhart
5. Norris << Barkov
6. Giroux > Duclair
7. Pinto < Bennett
8. Joseph = Balcers
9. Formenton = Hornqvist
10. Dylan Gambrell < Lomberg
11. Ridley Greig = Denisenko
12. Auston Watson = Cousins
13. Parker Kelly = White
I’m not ranking yours lol, to then hear he’s not 6th he’s 4th.You claimed Ottawa had a better top 6. I said rank both teams top 6 in a combined 1-12 ranking to show your work. Instead you ranked Ottawa’s forwards.
You have to be doing this intentionally at this point. I’m asking you to directly compare both teams. Put the top 6 for each team into the same pool and rank them 1-12.I’m not ranking yours lol, to then hear he’s not 6th he’s 4th.
Rank yours then compare, I’m tired of your stupid games.
I no longer give a crap if you post ‘‘em or not.
In the eyes of a wildly biased Panthers fan sure. Stutzle is a much better player than Lundell. As are Formenton over Hornqvist and the laughable comparison as a waiver wire player softy like Balcers over Joseph. Congrats on Lomberg over Gambrell.Based off the players as is today
That's where the no Brainer portion of the conversation ends. But since you can't do it after that because you know you can't be objective id expect nothing less than silence. Looking forward to the Cats Sens games this year. Going to be entertaining. Two Tkachuks two great forward groups two top heavy bad d cores.You have to be doing this intentionally at this point. I’m asking you to directly compare both teams. Put the top 6 for each team into the same pool and rank them 1-12.
I’ll start you off with one that “should” be a no brainer.
1) Barkov
Again. Not relevant.Well it is, the pressure is on in Florida, not so much in Toronto
The draft was two years ago. The on ice results tell a different story but thanks for confirming what we already knewStutzle is a much better player than Lundell.
In the eyes of a wildly biased Panthers fan sure. Stutzle is a much better player than Lundell. As are Formenton over Hornqvist and the laughable comparison as a waiver wire player softy like Balcers over Joseph. Congrats on Lomberg over Gambrell.
Stutzle scored way more actual points and doesn't get to play with all stars. You can think Lundell is better all you want, keep the charts coming. When stutzle outscores him by 20 points this year we can check back to this thread. He is much more dominant by the eye test as well. His level of skill and creativity is in the upper echelon of the league. I am a big lundell fan I watched 40 + Panthers games they aren't the same level of player.View attachment 580792View attachment 580793View attachment 580794View attachment 580795
Lundell has more EVG, EVP, more takeaways, plays PK, takes less penalties, better on faceoffs, better 2 way play, better pts/60, better corsi and Fenwick, all while playing 2.5 mins less of ES TOI.
But ya Stutzle better because he was drafted higher right?
Lundell would have more points without injury and some PP time.
You don’t have to pretend to watch Panthers games. We know you sit at a grand total of 0 the last 3 years.Stutzle scored way more actual points and doesn't get to play with all stars. You can think Lundell is better all you want, keep the charts coming. When stutzle outscores him by 20 points this year we can check back to this thread. He is much more dominant by the eye test as well. His level of skill and creativity is in the upper echelon of the league. I am a big lundell fan I watched 40 + Panthers games they aren't the same level of player.