Predict the Atlantic Standings

[lomiller1]

Ben Chiarot was awful in the playoffs for the Panthers.

But if you need another name. Erik Gudbranson

Good example, but we don't even need to stick to current players. Many GM's are getting a lot smarter about who is effective defensively and who isn't since advanced stats actually started measuring this. Relatively Recent NHL history is riddled with the likes of Mark Stuart and Tanner Glass

Yeah, it's hard to really discuss what types he meant since he didn't actually provide examples/names.

Why would names be relevant? I described player attributes. If you can't figure out what I mean by players who are good positionally and make smart plays everywhere on the ice, that's on you.

 

[bert]

Anton Lundell & Spencer Knight are 2 seasons away from being better than anyone wearing a Senators jersey now or in the past 15 years. Panthers undoubtedly were closer to the 80s oilers than they were the Sens last season. The subtraction of playoff killers will make them immediately better. Forsling is being slept on and quite frankly, so is the Barkov/Tkachuk duo that is about to wreck the league.

Yikes.

 

[Beezeral]

Yikes.

So many posts with zero argument/evidence of your own.

 

[bert]

So many posts with zero argument/evidence of your own.

I provided evidence. This post says that Lundell and Knight will be better players than anyone on the sens for the last 15 years and into the future..... Why would anyone engage in that? You said Stutzle would be on Florida's 4th line. You guys are cooked, why bother engaging with posters that are so incredibly detached from reality.

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

So many posts with zero argument/evidence of your own.

We're not allowed to comment on a post?

Tough crowd...

 

[Beezeral]

We're not allowed to comment on a post?

Tough crowd...

Usually people bring more to the discussion than player X on my team is better than player Y on yours because I said so and if you don't agree it's because you don't watch the games.

 

[The90]

Usually people bring more to the discussion than player X on my team is better than player Y on yours because I said so and if you don't agree it's because you don't watch the games.

To be fair you guys have been putting out some ridiculous statements about knight, Lindell and steutzle. Can’t expect everyone to take that seriously and provide proper rebuttals to an obviously ridiculous take.

 

[Beezeral]

To be fair you guys have been putting out some ridiculous statements about knight, Lindell and steutzle. Can’t expect everyone to take that seriously and provide proper rebuttals to an obviously ridiculous take.

I mean this thread also contains some bold statements like Ottawa's top 6 and top 9>FLA

and Ottawa's D>FLA

so...

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

To be fair you guys have been putting out some ridiculous statements about knight, Lindell and steutzle. Can’t expect everyone to take that seriously and provide proper rebuttals to an obviously ridiculous take.

The pressure is getting to us, lots of posters saying Panthers lost a ton of offense but us Florida fans are just wishing we had a solid top 6 D like Ottawa and goaltending tandem like the one in Toronto.

 

[The90]

The pressure is getting to us, lots of posters saying Panthers lost a ton of offense but us Florida fans are just wishing we had a solid top 6 D like Ottawa and goaltending tandem like the one in Toronto.

Neither of those things are relevant to what I said.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Neither of those things are relevant to what I said.

Well it is, the pressure is on in Florida, not so much in Toronto

 

[Golden_Jet]

RIGHT NOW

Barkov is in another zip code

Bennett is putting up better 5 on 5 numbers with better defense

Lundell is putting up better 5 on 5 numbers with less games and better defense.

So yeah, Right now, Stutzle would be the 4th best center on the Panthers. Sorry you don't like when your backwards logic is thrown right back at you.

Would I trade Bennett for Stutzle? In a second. He's got the much better future but that's not the conversation being had.

Still waiting for the rankings that are never coming. You just pop in and laugh at posts you disagree with but never actually counter the points made itt.

I learned no matter what anyone says, your always right, so it’s pointless debating with someone who thinks only analytics, and uses 1 chart, that you can’t explain. Other than 2.1 > 1.7

One who’s failed to acknowledge top teams have better numbers than bottom teams. Makes claims, on 5 on 5 play with no supporting evidence.

One who thinks Stützle is 4th liner on the Panthers centre wise., is enough for me, try a poll, see how that works for you.
So far everyone is laughing at those points.
The last 15 years comment.
I could list more, but I’ll bow out, since it wastes my time.

 

[Beezeral]

I learned no matter what anyone says, your always right, so it’s pointless debating with someone who thinks only analytics, and uses 1 chart, that you can’t explain. Other than 2.1 > 1.7

One who’s failed to acknowledge top teams have better numbers than bottom teams. Makes claims, on 5 on 5 play with no supporting evidence.

One who thinks Stützle is 4th liner on the Panthers centre wise., is enough for me, try a poll, see how that works for you.
So far everyone is laughing at those points.
The last 15 years comment.
I could list more, but I’ll bow out, since it wastes my time.

"claims"
Lundell

Bennett

Stutzle

Do you check anything before spouting off?

 

[Golden_Jet]

"claims"
Lundell

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Bennett
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Stutzle
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Do you check anything before spouting off?

I did and knew results, like I said you don’t understand top teams are better than bottom teams. But it was mainly to see if you could actually post something, and it worked.
Stutzle fourth liner will now haunt you, not even as good as Colin White lol, who Sens bought out.

Didn’t comment on all the other points I see, tail between legs I guess after the backlash from other posters, including leaf fans.

That’s why posters have given up on you sadly.

 

[Beezeral]

I did and knew results, like I said you don’t understand top teams are better than bottom teams. But it was mainly to see if you could actually post something, and it worked.
Stutzle fourth liner will now haunt you, not even as good as Colin White lol, who Sens bought out.

Didn’t comment on all the other points I see, tail between legs I guess after the backlash from other posters, including leaf fans.

That’s why posters have given up on you sadly.

You knew the results and that I was right but took a shot at me anyway? LMAO. Sure....

I'm the only one posting any evidence. The only thing you post is feels. It's quite hilarious to watch you claim victory when you have zero to back up anything you have said.

I guess that 1-18 ranking is never coming right? Can't even bring yourself to make that feel based ranking for us and put yourself on record?

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

I did and knew results, like I said you don’t understand top teams are better than bottom teams. But it was mainly to see if you could actually post something, and it worked.
Stutzle fourth liner will now haunt you, not even as good as Colin White lol, who Sens bought out.

Didn’t comment on all the other points I see, tail between legs I guess after the backlash from other posters, including leaf fans.

That’s why posters have given up on you sadly.

So you can't break anything down yourself?
You didn't comment on anything because you possibly lack the skills to do so

 

[Golden_Jet]

So you can't break anything down yourself?
You didn't comment on anything because you possibly lack the skills to do so

I read Stutzle is a 4th liner, one realizes it’s pointless.

 

[Beezeral]

I read that Ottawa has a better top 6 than the Panthers, one realizes it’s pointless.

Fixed it for you

 

[Golden_Jet]

Then posts like this one haha
Senators haven’t had a player as good as Lundell or Knight in the last 15 years.
So that includes the 2007 Stanley cup final Senators team, Karlsson etc.

And wonder why I stopped responding.

Fixed it for you

True fact.

 

[Beezeral]

Then posts like this one haha
Senators haven’t had a player as good as Lundell or Knight in the last 15 years.
So that includes the 2007 Stanley cup final Senators team, Karlsson etc.

And wonder why I stopped responding.


True fact.

I'll readily admit that was a poor post by that Panthers fan.

Now it's time for you to put yourself on record with that 1-12 or 18 ranking.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

I read Stutzle is a 4th liner, one realizes it’s pointless.

So post your player/team comparisons then and show us your hockey knowledge.

You've been asked numerous times and you talk about others tucking their tail?

 

[Golden_Jet]

So post your player/team comparisons then and show us your hockey knowledge.

You've been asked numerous times and you talk about others tucking their tail?

I’ll wait for yours and comment.

 

[Beezeral]

I’ll wait for yours and comment.

So unbelievably predictable.

 

[Golden_Jet]

I'll readily admit that was a poor post by that Panthers fan.

Now it's time for you to put yourself on record with that 1-12 or 18 ranking.

You’re the one that keeps asking, I never offered up a top 12/18, it’s just you asking on a repeat cycle.
All I said was Sens top 6 > panthers top 6.

If you want to do a team ranking knock yourself out, since your so keen.

 

[Beezeral]

You’re the one that keeps asking, I never offered up a top 12/18, it’s just you asking on a repeat cycle.
All I said was Sens top 6 > panthers top 6.

If you want to do a team ranking knock yourself out, since your so keen.

It’s called telling someone to show their work when they make a bold claim.